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You really shouldn't post reasonable takes itt, they are so out of place here.

Has Robbi apologized yet? Seems high time for that. The report is coming out soon too, her PR team might want her to get ahead of it's release.

08-10-2023 , 01:27 PM

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We made it into Wired. About time.

Hackers Rig Casino Card-Shuffling Machines for ‘Full Control’ Cheating

https://www.wired.com/story/card-shu...tm_campaign=pd

I am still interested to know why seat 1 was important, allegedly.

08-10-2023 , 01:32 PM

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blakepoker92

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was this ever resolved? I felt like it the biggest thing ever when it happened and then we never hear anything official again

08-10-2023 , 01:40 PM

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"even if state-level gaming regulators' standards are updated or Light & Wonder does issue a fix for the Deckmate—whether that's an enclosure to block its vulnerable USB port or a software patch—there will no doubt be some small casinos or private, backroom games that continue to use vulnerable versions. And the next time there's a cheating scandal over a game where one player seems to have a little too much knowledge of her opponents' hands, he hopes investigators will take a hard look at the shuffler under the table, too."

Be careful out there bro's

08-10-2023 , 01:41 PM

#18381

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adept

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blakepoker92

was this ever resolved? I felt like it the biggest thing ever when it happened and then we never hear anything official again

Yes. Robbi cheated. Robbi gave the money back.

08-10-2023 , 01:50 PM

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Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by jjjou812

One of the major differences between the two cases is that Robbi was caught cheating "live" in real time by the victim and gave back the money immediately. She negated anyone's need to provide any proof beyond looking at the facts as an objectively reasonable person.

Two other major differences, if I'm remembering Postle correctly and understand this situation well enough - there were numerous suspicious hands with Postle, as opposed to one, and his extreme win rate over multiple sessions was known.

08-10-2023 , 01:51 PM

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DiamondsOnMyNeck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejames209

Genuine question - has Robbi requested the money back or taken any legal measures to do so? I think she did but can't remember

Nah. Her and her husband both talked about taking legal action but nothing ever happened.

08-10-2023 , 02:03 PM

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jjjou812

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Yes, I agree with you but Scotch claimed that the hand evaluations and win rate were not enough by themselves and that a whistleblower or evidence of communication was required (not that I necessarily agree with his requirements).

In neither case do we we have a whistleblower or evidence of the communications. But in both cases we have staff with real time access to the RFID info in proximity to communicate with the players.

08-10-2023 , 02:11 PM

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DiamondsOnMyNeck

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Yes, the situations aren’t 100% analogous. However, there are a number of similarities that could point to similar methods of cheating being employed in both cases. Ie. Privileged insider feeding hole card info (possibly more) to a player at the table.

08-10-2023 , 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjou812

Since you often appear to have difficulty in reading and comprehending I was strictly talking about their formal court proceedings. Not court of public opinion. For the latter we had enough.

And given that they lost, looks like Scotch was correct.

For Robbi’s case there is no evidence for even the court of public opinion. Case was dismissed and she has a clean bill of health in poker community

08-10-2023 , 06:41 PM

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jjjou812

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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks

For Robbi’s case there is no evidence for even the court of public opinion.

Just keeps proving he still doesn't even understand the term "evidence." It's hard to put any value on his opinions about things he clearly can't comprehend.

08-10-2023 , 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjou812

Just keeps proving he still doesn't even understand the term "evidence." It's hard to put any value on his opinions about things he clearly can't comprehend.

And you don’t understand what the entire poker community considers evidence, in this case more hands, methods of cheating etc. Call it compelling evidence if it makes you feel better. ES2 explained this to you already.

There’s none of that, thus she has a clean bill of health

This is like talking to a rock lol

08-10-2023 , 06:54 PM

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Robot9999

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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks

“Scotch was correct”
Logged in on wrong acct
Lol

08-10-2023 , 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robot9999

“Scotch was correct”
Logged in on wrong acct
Lol

Been talking in third person for days, Junior

Now that’s taken care of, would you like to confirm that I was indeed correct?

08-10-2023 , 07:20 PM

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Robot9999

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Oh, my apologies. I didn’t pick it up.
Why the change ?
Was it a previous post where you messed up?

AnywY, i am not sure what you are correct about. Your posts are very similiar.
Derpa derpa, any evidence???
Derpa, derpa, robbi innocent!!!!

08-10-2023 , 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Robot9999

No worries, bud

Scotch is now referring posters like yourself to the “GTO Court” who dismissed the case for lack of evidence

Let’s keep this thread clean for any evidence that may come in future, thanks

There’s only so much time we can spend indulging the “Truthers”

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08-10-2023 , 09:03 PM

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jjjou812

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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks

Since you often appear to have difficulty in reading and comprehending I was strictly talking about their formal court proceedings. Not court of public opinion. For the latter we had enough.

Well al least we have established that even this dolt recognizes that the burden of proof in the court of public opinion is lower than what is required to win in civil court.

Now if we could only get him to understand what "evidence" means. If we did, we could move on to the issue of who should have the burden here - the person wanting the money back or Garrett.

08-10-2023 , 09:06 PM

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jjjou812

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If the poker community have Robbi a "clean billnof health" wtftm, why does Scotch keep replying and claiming zero evidence posts to everyone who thinks she cheated?

08-10-2023 , 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjou812

If the poker community have Robbi a "clean billnof health" wtftm, why does Scotch keep replying and claiming zero evidence posts to everyone who thinks she cheated?

Go appeal to the “GTO Court” and bring the handful of conspiracy theorists that remain with you

The vast majority poker world has moved on

Of course if you ever come across evidence, and by evidence we mean real compelling evidence by all means come back. Hopefully we don’t have to explain this for the tenth time.

08-10-2023 , 11:06 PM

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floatingtheriver

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On what basis does Garrett accuse Phil Ivey of signaling Robbi?

Just seems absurd. He seems to be grasping for straws now that everyone knows he didn't get cheated.

08-10-2023 , 11:12 PM

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NJPW

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Originally Posted by jjjou812

If the poker community have Robbi a "clean billnof health" wtftm, why does Scotch keep replying and claiming zero evidence posts to everyone who thinks she cheated?

because he's trolling and you guys keep giving him attention. i think that's pretty obvious. He's better off here:

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08-10-2023 , 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingtheriver

On what basis does Garrett accuse Phil Ivey of signaling Robbi?

Just seems absurd. He seems to be grasping for straws now that everyone knows he didn't get cheated.

IIRC you were the one who initially floated this rumor. If you have substantiation please provide it. If not, please stop posting this rumor.

08-10-2023 , 11:33 PM

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ScotchOnDaRocks

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Originally Posted by NJPW

because he's trolling and you guys keep giving him attention. i think that's pretty obvious. He's better off here:

Poor guy has to shield his eyes and can’t handle the truth

To those who can view, while it may upset you, you know I’m correct. So you can’t call it trolling, calling someone a troll often means you can’t match the arguments

She plays in streams and WPT/WSOP events. AFAIK not one single pro or media outlet has ever made any type of claim like “why are cheaters allowed here?”

What this means: They don’t think she cheated

What is this called: I call it a “clean bill of health” but you call it whatever makes you happy

08-10-2023 , 11:45 PM

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whosnext

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Wow, you just can't stop.

Whether you are "trolling" or not is irrelevant. The effect is the same. You have completely taken over this dumpster-fire of a thread. You are unbelievably repetitive, annoying, and argumentative.

This thread has always been shitty but it had occasional moments of infotainment. Now it is just pathetic, and you are the main reason for that.

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