Why would it be

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one of the craziest hands from the investigation

it's insane. it's nearly identical to the J4 hand except he loses. WTF happens if he binks a queen on the river??!?

Reckon we have one last stream with a special set of data?

Do you think that hand makes the j4o , more or less suspicious now?

At first I thought it makes it look much more suspicious. Or does it make it less suspicious and they are both super fish??

Robbi is not a fish. She is an up and coming superstar that took down the live poker golden boy. Her vs Nik Airball would be a treat to watch

Not sure what these guys think it means, but it reminded me of the cheat crew than ran through central Texas 10+ years ago. One component of their operation was the use of "props" on the table. Many people thought they were used as a distraction. If I remember correctly, some pointed out that this was common in con operations.

It hasn’t been “confirmed” and I am not sure it could be unless Nick/Ryan want to admit there was cheating, which they clearly don’t want to do. But it fits perfectly and explains everything. It’s been 5.5 months, and this is the only plausible theory anyone has been able to come up with, so I think it has to be what happened.


I think the water bottle is a way to communicate with Bryan who is in somewhat of a bunker in the control room (no phone, maybe no internet as well). It’s not clear to me exactly what kind of communications Bryan has in the control room because Nick Vertucci was intentionally vague about this on all the interviews I heard him give. I’m guessing Bryan’s only connection with the outside world may have been his view of the live stream showing the table, so a prop that could be placed on/off the table or arranged in different orientations may have been the best way to communicate with Bryan. I’m not sure exactly what the message would be for. My best guess is something like “its safe to cheat” or “it’s not safe to cheat”.


I do know that the water bottle is significant tho because the correlation between…

the water bottle is on the table, Byran is in the control room, Robbi is stalling, Robbie is peaking out of the corner of her eye into the poker room, Robbi is playing like god

and

the water bottle is not on the table, Byran is not in the control room, Robbi is not stalling, Robbie is not peaking out of the corner of her eye into the poker room, Robbi is playing like a fish

…is like 100%

You know Robbi had the water bottle on the table when she lost the hand vs Garrett Q4/J8.

I'm not sure I'd call that play god mode.

Link?

I have so many people muted and one of them might have posted it, but I can't see it.

But but “she used a time extension!!”

Lol

Who needs the water bottle when you can just stare at Lauren’s mic pack lol.

Come in Bryan, tell rip to raise a flop bet to get Xaun off AK.

Rip: “I knew you didn’t have a pair there”


Come onnnnnnnnnn anti cheat squad

Cmon cheat crew, give us some evidence

Who needs a water bottle or mic pack when you have a vibrating anal bead! Am I doing this right?

Don't read too much into Doug Polk having her on his stream constituting a "clean bill of health." He still says it's likely she cheated but ultimately acknowledges that she remains innocent until proven otherwise:



(Head to the 8-minute mark of the video to skip to this topic.)

As for the poker media handing out awards, that was a fan vote, and this one simply reveals how the fans leaned. It doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of the poker media in terms of her innocence or guilt. If these awards existed 14 years ago, then Jim Moran would have been a favorite. A couple of years before then, Tuff Fish might have had the entire top five. Total populist thing, maybe even the 2022 poker equivalent of Boaty McBoatface.

Seat 2 equity

The rip xuan hand is a massive indicator of cheating.
Rip says at the end of the hand “I knew you didn’t have a pair”
Xuan doesn’t have a pair on the flop turn or river, how would he know that she didn’t have a pair. Well because whoever was signalling him to get it in knew she had AK.

You could look at this from the non cheat angle, oh they aren’t cheating because they played the hand spastic, it’s the same as J4 bla bla. But break the hand down and you literally can see the cheating in full force.

Rip outs his hand on his face(same methodology that all of the other hands where they need help).

Xian’s range is literally QQ-AK

Saying she doesn’t have a pair when she’s at the top of their range is literally insane.

Polk really isn’t an “I was wrong” kind of guy. But he’s also very smart, he knows by now that she didn’t cheat. Maybe he knew all along and was going for clicks. Actions speak louder than words though and had her on his stream.

Well if poker media thought a cheater won they would have a big story. Wasn’t really the slant though.

The bill is clean, bro, imo

Garrett says he thinks there was cheating. Garrett won at the game. Unless you believe he is so great his +ev is larger than the -ev of being a cheating victim he wasn't being cheated. I don't believe that.

I once had 32 straight winning sessions at 7CS with 5-6 other players from Changle, China trying to collude against me

It can happen

Want to know whats even more insane? Calling off his stack with Q high no draws, which proves yet again they are two gambling donks rather than cheats. You still don't understand how cheating even works. I will give you a hint. Its not calling off your stack with air.

Its actually common for fish even regs to just put you on AK often in those spots. That hand is another nail in the coffin for the conspiracy crew.

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Just saw the xian/rip hand for the first time. My first impression was :

1) completely different type of hand then the Robbi hand, not even in the same ballpark as the Robbi hand. Hands like Rip's happen 20 times a night at any busy card room Loose rec player 3-bets with suited trash against a reg. They call 100% of the time in position, ok maybe not to a shove or huge 4 bet. But when they 3bet it they 100% plan on called a re-raise. Flop comes no ace king, all low cards, reg bets small. They decide to go with it and make a move like a rec often will. Even Xian realizes this and puts him all in for a few K more. Rip realizes he fukked up but after a minute realizes he has too call anyway since it's only a couple more thousand.

2) While if he did know her cards he might play it similar. After the all in is over after he flop, his reaction and actions to me are totally consistent with NOT CHEATING. Either he is a great , great, great actor and is faking it knowing she only has AK . But to me it looks like he now believes she has "it" , being a big pair and he needs to go runner runner. It does not seem like he thinks he can win with just a 4 or Q which if he knew her hand, he would know thats all he needs.

3) seriously guys, do any of you who think these hands are similar or the same even play live poker ever. Or just watch poker on TV?

Those hands aren't even close to the same situation. Only a super novice would think they are. If anything after watching the RIP hand I'd lean more towards innocent then my first impression hearing y'all describe the hand.