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02-04-2023 , 12:47 AM
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The person he's talking about is Luis the floorman. Good guy known him for years when he was floor at the bike. So definitely nothing crazy. I'm friends with tons of floormen as well doesn't mean they're gonna bend gaming rules just because you're buddy buddy with them.
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The first time RIP came on ingrams podcast I think it was the 29th of September he said he knew a guy named Luis .

When Nick vertucci came on I think 10/4 with shaundeeb and Allen kessler he says that he interviewed Luis , and asked him about that and Nick said Luis denied any relationship with him.

Why would RIP be lying about knowing someone with hustler? I don’t get this part. Or is Luis lying?

Who is Luis (floor man according to bryan post) and how is he involved with hustler stream?
Ryan’s tweet

https://mobile.twitter.com/theryanfe...246272?lang=ar

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Our roaming camera man (Raver who was trying to help) and our floor man (Luis) were in the control room at the time (this is normal, they both work in production but their jobs aren’t in the control room but they sometimes have to come up for things.
02-04-2023 , 12:52 AM
626 pages into this thread and we finally figure out it’s the floorman. We did it reddit!
02-04-2023 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
626 pages into this thread and we finally figure out it’s the floorman. We did it reddit!
No, the takeaway would be that they intentionally crafted the Bryan narrative even though they knew the floorman was the signaler. It would indicate higher level corruption.
02-04-2023 , 01:55 AM
It was confirmed by a respected long time moderator “Kelly Shields” on HCL live chat today that he saw Luis the floorman dealing for the FIRST time ever on the Hustler Casino floor.

It’s good to see Ryan, Nick V, Hustler Casino and HCL Live remove Luis from his floorman duties until the investigation is carried out.

Courtesy to user: Robbie Lowe on sending these to me. Thanks!!





Floorman floorman FLOORMAN! Lol

Last edited by Jezza88; 02-04-2023 at 01:58 AM. Reason: floorman
02-04-2023 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
No, the takeaway would be that they intentionally crafted the Bryan narrative even though they knew the floorman was the signaler. It would indicate higher level corruption.
I’m pretty sure the main theory is/was that the players were signaling, not the floorman.
02-04-2023 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
I’m pretty sure the main theory is/was that the players were signaling, not the floorman.
Well the players are signaling each other. That's almost certainly something other than communication of other player's hole cards though. It's more likely some sort of collusion, possibly the whole fake pot thing. It's not impossible for one player to have the coms while another receives the signal, but at that point you might as well just use the dealer since they're already wearing a headset. I've never thought it was likely that the players were hand signaling each other for that purpose, but I was happy to use the signals to show there's a reason to get the security footage. It is much more likely that someone in the room who is able to openly use a headset would be the person relaying the knowledge of hole cards as opposed to another player. Especially considering if a player was able to wear a headset, it would make the most sense to just communicate with them directly like Postle.

I don't think we should really be looking for a "cheater" at this point though. I think it's much more likely that on any given night, only a couple of the players are unaware of what's going on, and the people orchestrating the corrupt game are high up in casino management. This seems like it's likely an industry wide corruption issue to me, so we should probably be trying to figure out solutions as opposed to picking out fall guys.
02-04-2023 , 10:10 AM
I also think it's the Floorpan.
02-04-2023 , 11:41 AM
Is the floor-plan man dating Robbi, or GA, or both?
02-04-2023 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88
Correct. Also look at the lines rip takes in each hand if we go by the idea that he gets a signal from the floor man on the flop or turn JUST on wether he’s ahead or not. It’s also not a coincidence the floor man and rip are known friends.
this may or may not be true. all i am agreeing with is that there is something shady going on during the timestamps you provided. someone is certainly signaling, but whom i don't know. the general behavior of certain players is also a red flag. the way that rip acts after the TT hand strikes me as a terrible acting performance, for example. such a strange hand, all-around, as mentioned by the commentator.
02-04-2023 , 03:55 PM
I would never discount the presence of anal beads.
02-04-2023 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88
It’s good to see Ryan, Nick V, Hustler Casino and HCL Live remove Luis from his floorman duties until the investigation is carried out.
Are they really investigating anything though?
02-04-2023 , 07:16 PM
I've been busy and haven't been able to keep up with all of the interesting content of this thread.

Can anyone give me the CliffsNotes on what has transpired since GA was called out on his horrible bluff by Robbi?
02-04-2023 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gino_Love
I've been busy and haven't been able to keep up with all of the interesting content of this thread.

Can anyone give me the CliffsNotes on what has transpired since GA was called out on his horrible bluff by Robbi?
Cliffs: GA accused Robbi of cheating. No evidence of this provided by GA or anyone else.
02-04-2023 , 08:01 PM
I think it’s time that a certain someone
02-04-2023 , 08:09 PM
Blah blah blah blah. The innocent parties (or guilty parties) will always know the truth and no one else will ever know (the general public).

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02-04-2023 , 09:35 PM
Emerging cliff: Bryan had sight of the live stream, let the floorman know, and the floorman signalled to the colluding players at the table.

Robbi tanked while waiting for signals, and had no clear explanation over why she played a hand as all she knew was that she was told she was ahead in a hand.

About time a certain poster apologised for saying it is about time a certain person apologized for his unfounded accusations, and returned some chips to a certain lady. This has gone on for long enough.

Damn it, after 626 pages we've only just begun.
02-04-2023 , 10:19 PM
Weird that seat 2 just happens to face the casino floor and the floor man.
02-04-2023 , 10:21 PM
Didn't dgf sit in seat 2 for 18/19 sessions?

Lucky dude!
02-04-2023 , 10:24 PM
Floorman not interested in 250K

But he was facing life in prison amirite?
02-04-2023 , 11:40 PM
Well the floorman seems to no longer be a floorman and is now just a dealer at the casino.

The floorman has been on every episode of HCL and as of yesterday he was suddenly removed.

Would be very interesting to know why he was suddenly demoted in the last few days considering I the allegations were only just recently made on the front page.

Stuff I’ve been told from random people with no name and no vouch:

2) Some players were asked from the casino to sign NDAs before stream? or on stream at the very start of the show?

Not to sure how reliable this is just putting it out there. If we don’t hear anything within the next week from anyone at HCL we probably know why.

2) Was told one player feels absolutely horrible with what has happened to Mars - he’s apparently down 500k? and Mars believes he was cheated but doubts he will get anything back. If you watch last nights episode he just seems a bit off, isn’t the normal mars and seems quite sad.

3) There’s a few moles and shills that have a hidden agenda in protecting Hustler casino amongst us! Lol it’s interesting that the number one supporter of the casino 2p2 user RogerRamjit is no longer in this forum

What happened buddyyyyyy?

Last edited by Jezza88; 02-04-2023 at 11:50 PM. Reason: floorman
02-04-2023 , 11:59 PM
Oh so they know he was cheating but they just demoted him to a dealer

Definitely seems like he should have taken the 250K
02-05-2023 , 12:55 AM
At the start there potentially may have been more money to be made from not going to bill Perkins for the 250k and also by not going he avoids any possible law suits.

But now

If I was the ex-floorman I would work out some deal with Joey and bill cause I would be wanting that 250k now after what’s happening and what is about to happen.
02-05-2023 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88
At the start there potentially may have been more money to be made from not going to bill Perkins for the 250k and also by not going he avoids any possible law suits.
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More money to be made that being given 250k cold hard cash, after his accomplice handed back the money she 'cheated'? There would be so law suit because nobody got cheated out of any money, it was refunded. Nobody has given a single credible reason why an accomplice would not have spilled the beans for 250k. You know why? There is no credible reason.
02-05-2023 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88
What happened buddyyyyyy?
I hate that I read that in Airball's voice
02-05-2023 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
More money to be made that being given 250k cold hard cash, after his accomplice handed back the money she 'cheated'? There would be so law suit because nobody got cheated out of any money, it was refunded. Nobody has given a single credible reason why an accomplice would not have spilled the beans for 250k. You know why? There is no credible reason.

There's no way to get the 250k without self-incriminating or angering a lot of people with significant resources. It's like being paid 250k to tank your life for the next few years. The police are not going to be like oh no he used his Perkins-client privilege we can't go get that info. It's attempted theft of the echelon of sums that carries the heaviest penalties (above 950 triggers grand theft). That can carry 1,2,3 years in prison depending on how it is charged. Even if you're not involved directly you're attaching yourself to annoying legal proceedings for the next few years and the aggrieved parties are going to sue you if they think they can beat the charges or simply for optics. Legal fees aren't cheap and there are parties involved who can expend significant resources in a legal battle (250k goes quick if you have a remotely good attorney). There's almost zero chance they could remain anonymous either. Risking jail or possibly having to defend yourself in court and lose your privacy just isn't worth it to most people.

OR

Nobody cheated and that's why nobody claimed it.


At this point there's no completely concrete way to decide what happened, but since both potential "what happened" options end in the person not claiming the prize, you can't use the prize not being claimed as evidence. LA is just a really litigious place in general and the parties accused (potentially) just wouldn't be like "oh ok enjoy ur 250k!". The police and the accused's lawyers would be guaranteed to get involved. This story has already gathered mainstream attention once, so any actual update would land it there again. The media is calling everyone they can for a soundbite. It's a superficial place. I get your logic but I feel like possibly if you knew LA better you'd see how damaged a prize the 250k is.

      
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