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10-08-2022 , 12:07 AM
wow. unreal story. nh garrett.
10-08-2022 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLogo
All of this is pure speculation and horseshit. All we know for fact is...

1) she called you BEHIND in the hand. You were ahead at that point. Why would anyone on earth make that call at that point if they were cheating? Why would you not wait for a better spot where they are clearly ahead, not behind or a coin flip?

2) She gave back the money. What person has anyone ever met that runs a scam would just give the money ****ing back. Are you seriously that sheltered garrett in your life? Maybe so, but ends up the only one scamming somenone here was you.

3) You cried like a bitch off screen and confronted her with another person and demanded your money back.

Those are the only known facts. Otherwise we see robbie and rip talking across the table. Were they probably playing each soft, sure, but I saw no one pick anything up or look at a secret device.

You got beat buddy, you have lost all your integrity, which i doubt you had to begin with after I saw how you acted. Pathetic.
+1, Completely!

If Garrett had simply binked both runouts in a ~coinflip, say a Club then an 8, none of this chit is happening. And he would obviously realize she was calling with a pair of threes (or so she thought), and he’d be laughing at her. But now it’s the biggest results oriented bullchit in poker history.

He’s a crybaby grasping at straws, his whole post is hearsay and character assassinations of what people may or may not have done in the past. What a joke.
10-08-2022 , 12:09 AM
Hi Garrett, long time professional here who's spent many dozens of hours studying this situation. I appreciate your write-up and I'm happy that you're bringing everything to light. I have additional information/evidence that strongly suggests a certain person is part of the ring, and you did not name this person in your post, or indicate that you are in any way aware of his involvement. I believe this person is a pivotal part of the cheating ring and to getting Robbi connected with the show and with the people you allege are part of the ring. I tried to reach out to you on Twitter (same screen name), but to no avail. I've no doubt that you're being bombarded with thousands of messages and tags, so it's perfectly understandable. Just hoping that you or a member of your legal team message me on here or on Twitter so I can share some pertinent information with you. Thank you.
10-08-2022 , 12:11 AM
Interesting read, but there does not appear to be any hard evidence of cheating, or even soft evidence. Hopefully, for you, you will be able to prove Robbi knew your hand and how, or you could be facing an expensive legal action.
10-08-2022 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MagicR99
Hi Garrett, long time professional here who's spent many dozens of hours studying this situation. I appreciate your write-up and I'm happy that you're bringing everything to light. I have additional information/evidence that strongly suggests a certain person is part of the ring, and you did not name this person in your post, or indicate that you are in any way aware of his involvement. I believe this person is a pivotal part of the cheating ring and to getting Robbi connected with the show and with the people you allege are part of the ring. I tried to reach out to you on Twitter (same screen name), but to no avail. I've no doubt that you're being bombarded with thousands of messages and tags, so it's perfectly understandable. Just hoping that you or a member of your legal team message me on here or on Twitter so I can share some pertinent information with you. Thank you.
You been spamming that same theory on twitter for days now lol
10-08-2022 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by donkatruck
I am pretty sure the allegation is that she didn't know the hole cards, just a signal if she was ahead or not.
But she wasn’t even ahead.
10-08-2022 , 12:15 AM
This story is never going away.

Actually insane.
10-08-2022 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
+1, Completely!

If Garrett had simply binked both runouts in a ~coinflip, say a Club then an 8, none of this chit is happening. And he would obviously realize she was calling with a pair of threes (or so she thought), and he’d be laughing at her. But now it’s the biggest results oriented bullchit in poker history.

He’s a crybaby grasping at straws, his whole post is hearsay and character assassinations of what people may or may not have done in the past. What a joke.
I've always wondered - do you know you're crazy? Or do you think you're a sane person?
10-08-2022 , 12:17 AM
good job gman show the plebs claiming it was 100% not cheating a shoe up their ass
10-08-2022 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpin aint ezy
You been spamming that same theory on twitter for days now lol

I have never discussed on public Twitter what I'm referencing in my previous post.
I have only discussed it with some key people through private Twitter messages.

One person who's looking into this situation as much as anyone just contacted me and asked if
I thought Garrett knew what I know, and I told him I hadn't been in contact with Garrett and don't believe he's aware.

He then told me he thought it was important that I find a way to get the information to Garrett, hence my creation of this handle, and hence my post in this thread.
10-08-2022 , 12:19 AM
It's so weird that people keep attacking Garrett. What the ****

And no, you can't assume what cheaters will think re the spots they pick at all, or what goes through their heads. You have to just look at what happens

What happens is they do stupid **** a lot and get caught. It takes a deep understanding to play well, which they inherently undermine acquiring because they're putting all their energy in the opposite direction - trying to cheat (vs trying to crush honestly)

The biggest problem with lies, of all kinds (consider what that truly means) is that it's very difficult to manage all the details of making the system around the lies look clean. You have to lie to cover it up, keep lying, make sure everything looks smooth... and then, when you are finally suspected of something (which seems inevitable), you have to remember all your bullshit and deal accordingly under extreme stress

It may actually be the case that all lies are eventually uncovered. That would be a really interesting thing to look at mathematically... especially with the power of technology increasing so fast. I hypothesize that, anyway
10-08-2022 , 12:20 AM
If there are truly this many people involved, then someone will flip. The authorities need to squeeze Bryan.
10-08-2022 , 12:20 AM
I never doubted you Garret! Watching you for years and always had nothing but respect for you.

#teamGarret all the way!
10-08-2022 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by netProd1gy
why are there so many people so blind to the stupidy of criminals? Do you people even look into the stories of actual robbers and stuff? Stop watching Ocean's 11 and hollywood BS about thieves. Most criminals aren't ****ing masterminds. They don't act calculated and removed from emotion.



FFS
People get caught because they are dumb, greedy, or both. It's survivorship bias.
10-08-2022 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by thenextguy
If there are truly this many people involved, then someone will flip.
Especially since it's worth $200k+.
10-08-2022 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jungleman
It's so weird that people keep attacking Garrett. What the ****

And no, you can't assume what cheaters will think re the spots they pick at all, or what goes through their heads. You have to just look at what happens

What happens is they do stupid **** a lot and get caught. It takes a deep understanding to play well, which they inherently undermine acquiring because they're putting all their energy in the opposite direction - trying to cheat (vs trying to crush honestly)

The biggest problem with lies, of all kinds (consider what that truly means) is that it's very difficult to manage all the details of making the system around the lies look clean. You have to lie to cover it up, keep lying, make sure everything looks smooth... and then, when you are finally suspected of something (which seems inevitable), you have to remember all your bullshit and deal accordingly under extreme stress

It may actually be the case that all lies are eventually uncovered. That would be a really interesting thing to look at mathematically... especially with the power of technology increasing so fast. I hypothesize that, anyway
RIP is Jake Paul's boxing manager. They have already bought endless clout and bots as part of their previous schticks, and weaponize it whenever they need to "influence" public opinion. Anyone with half a brain sees through that **** though
10-08-2022 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jungleman
It's so weird that people keep attacking Garrett. What the ****

And no, you can't assume what cheaters will think re the spots they pick at all, or what goes through their heads. You have to just look at what happens

What happens is they do stupid **** a lot and get caught. It takes a deep understanding to play well, which they inherently undermine acquiring because they're putting all their energy in the opposite direction - trying to cheat (vs trying to crush honestly)

The biggest problem with lies, of all kinds (consider what that truly means) is that it's very difficult to manage all the details of making the system around the lies look clean. You have to lie to cover it up, keep lying, make sure everything looks smooth... and then, when you are finally suspected of something (which seems inevitable), you have to remember all your bullshit and deal accordingly under extreme stress

It may actually be the case that all lies are eventually uncovered. That would be a really interesting thing to look at mathematically... especially with the power of technology increasing so fast. I hypothesize that, anyway
Would you wager you've seen more bad players do more stupid **** or more cheaters do more stupid ****? Just asking for maths' sake.
10-08-2022 , 12:23 AM
if beanz is willing to work a long-con for $600, what wouldn't he do for $200k?
10-08-2022 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
if beanz is willing to work a long-con for $600, what wouldn't he do for $200k?
Possibly. $200k > $600
10-08-2022 , 12:25 AM
I don't know any of the protagonists from a bar of soap. Having said that:
IMO, the problem with Garrets writeup is that this is all gleaned after the fact. There is no way that he knew all this at the time of the hand - in fact some happened after. And yet, he left the table and asked for Robbi to be brought to him for a discussion.
Liars don't make statements, they ask questions. He asks several times in the op if this looks like I threatened her or similar. But does not state that he didn't. He also implies he did not ask for the money back. In that case, why ask to speak to Robbi away from the table in the first place?
The only reason to do that is if Garrett was 100% convinced he had been cheated. Garrett, what was the conversation you had with Robbi? Did you accuse her of cheating? Why did you ask to speak to her away from the table? And why are you relying on her account at the table after the fact to show you didn't threaten or coerce, and on the other hand presenting Robbi as a compulsive liar?
Did you agree to return to the table after she returned the money as Robbi said?
Well known poker pro loses a hand to a bad call, immediately leaves the table, asks for the caller to be brought to him, and has a discussion with her the result of which is his bet is returned. Why? Why, in that moment, were you so 100% convinced you had been cheated?
There is only one reason I can think of that you can be 100% sure.
Recount EXACTLY what you said to Robbi away from the table. You KNOW the facts of that conversation, but AFAIK have chosen not to share it. Do so.
10-08-2022 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jungleman
It may actually be the case that all lies are eventually uncovered. That would be a really interesting thing to look at mathematically... especially with the power of technology increasing so fast. I hypothesize that, anyway
Interesting, but imo there's likely been superusers both online and live that managed to go undetected because they were smart, some of which will never be caught now. Just an opinion though - like you say might change in the future.
10-08-2022 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jungleman
It may actually be the case that all lies are eventually uncovered. That would be a really interesting thing to look at mathematically... especially with the power of technology increasing so fast. I hypothesize that, anyway
I can assure you that it can’t be mathematically proven that all lies are uncovered. Are you being serious?

This statement was another misstep by Garret.
10-08-2022 , 12:28 AM
I remember early on the investigation beanz went on joeys pod and claimed he recruited robbie to the game I was super sus it felt like he was trying to get ahead of the story. who the **** is beanz hows he one of joeys firsts guests
10-08-2022 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalaea
I don't know any of the protagonists from a bar of soap. Having said that:
IMO, the problem with Garrets writeup is that this is all gleaned after the fact. There is no way that he knew all this at the time of the hand - in fact some happened after. And yet, he left the table and asked for Robbi to be brought to him for a discussion.
What exactly is the problem with leaving the table and asking to have a discussion with someone? lol
10-08-2022 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
This statement was another misstep by Garret.
Nothing but circumstantial evidence.

      
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