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11-04-2022 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 1outeronriver
No I have never said anything about the dealer, odd that you immediately jump to that assumption though don't you think? Its been my belief literally since the moment it happened that she was targeting Garrett to make a sick viral hero call w/ something like J high. Q high, K high, whatever.

She's not getting the signal at every street. Of course you don't find it suspect if you assume she would try to cheat/signal on every single street in a highly watched stream game vs players like Ivey & Garrett.
So she knows she can only get signals on the river or when using something valuable (a time chip) but she is choosing jack high to do it, even though you said shes a tight player as part of your argument that shes cheating... so she knows how to play tight but forgets how to play poker under your signal cheating theory and just keeps getting in spots with the 300th nuts and burning her money and opportunities to cheat in the future(losing all time chips). Makes sense.

Yeah that is certainly more reasonable than thinking she'd just get the signal every street
/s

With a device it would be trivial to get it every street, this is why everything should have been searched insta.
11-04-2022 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ChainedOJ
Why do you even need much of a reason to avoid taking it? Polygraphs aren't reliable, period. There is a reason there are inadmissible in court. Cops cannot use them to arrest people. I would never take a polygraph for anything, ever. And most reasonable people wouldn't either.
Can we stop with the “there’s a reason they aren’t admissible in court!” narrative? That bar is such a high standard and not relevant to other situations.

Even detractors of lie detector tests still consider them to be 70-80% accurate.

Most reasonable people would consider the act of submitting yourself to the test and passing it to be a significant data point indicating innocence.

But this is a bizarro world where that act is attempted to be twisted as further evidence of guilt. “She went to Las Vegas!”, “The building looks shady!!”, “They advertise that they can help clear innocent people!” and other ha ha statements
11-04-2022 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 1outeronriver
There is evidence she signaled though. So if she's not cheating why is she signaling?
What in the world are you talking about? What information could she be signaling? Why do they need to relay signals if one at the table can already see it to relay it?
11-04-2022 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Can we stop with the “there’s a reason they aren’t admissible in court!” narrative? That bar is such a high standard and not relevant to other situations.

Even detractors of lie detector tests still consider them to be 70-80% accurate.

Most reasonable people would consider the act of submitting yourself to the test and passing it to be a significant data point indicating innocence.

But this is a bizarro world where that act is attempted to be twisted as further evidence of guilt. “She went to Las Vegas!”, “The building looks shady!!”, “They advertise that they can help clear innocent people!” and other ha ha statements
Legit question - why are the investigators assisting HCL (i.e. Sheppard Mullin) requesting she take another polygraph? Why not just accept the one she already took?
11-04-2022 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1outeronriver
No I have never said anything about the dealer, odd that you immediately jump to that assumption though don't you think? Its been my belief literally since the moment it happened that she was targeting Garrett to make a sick viral hero call w/ something like J high. Q high, K high, whatever.

She's not getting the signal at every street. Of course you don't find it suspect if you assume she would try to cheat/signal on every single street in a highly watched stream game vs players like Ivey & Garrett.
Odd? Why? You need to explain your theory on why she was playing jack high hands, not me. And one of hands she played, he wasn’t in the pot yet.

Yeah she thought GA was often out of line and didn’t want him to get away with it. That’s happening right this second in poker rooms all over the world.
11-04-2022 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1outeronriver
No I have never said anything about the dealer, odd that you immediately jump to that assumption though don't you think? Its been my belief literally since the moment it happened that she was targeting Garrett to make a sick viral hero call w/ something like J high. Q high, K high, whatever.

She's not getting the signal at every street. Of course you don't find it suspect if you assume she would try to cheat/signal on every single street in a highly watched stream game vs players like Ivey & Garrett.
Jesus christ its the hero call guilter.

Her goal was to maliciously target Garrett and own his soul, but then she felt bad and gave the money back after a super targeted cheat when they knew he had no physical evidence. Amazing.

Someone should have told their partner rip and bryan that it was never about the money, so why did they freak out when she gave it back? Guess she went rogue, or maybe she is a double agent!?

/s
11-04-2022 , 06:16 PM
My new running theory: There are paid shills by robbi and co, but they are paying the extreme guilters with the outlandish takes.

It explains why SO doesn't need my crypto money.

Very strange occurrences.
11-04-2022 , 06:17 PM
Who could possibly question the legitimacy of this cash or money order only testing site?
11-04-2022 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Schon
Legit question - why are the investigators assisting HCL (i.e. Sheppard Mullin) requesting she take another polygraph? Why not just accept the one she already took?
Because “she went to Las Vegas and building was shady!!” Lol

But passing two in a row makes the data point stronger. The math is simple on that.

For example if it’s 80% accurate the odds she is guilty but passed anyway goes down from 20% to 4%
11-04-2022 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Strange Occurrence
Circumstantial Evidence: Evidence that tends to prove a factual matter by proving other events or circumstances from which the occurrence of the matter can be reasonably inferred.
(emphasis mine)

Think this is the key right here. My view is that many of the inferences being made are not reasonable at all.

The fact that you can come up with a scenario in which things could be made to fit does not make such a scenario likely. I think a scenario has to be likely for it to be a reasonable inference. That's why I don't take "well maybe they just did it in a dumb way" as a good argument.
11-04-2022 , 06:20 PM
New theory: Hcl is BLUFFING asking robbi to take a lie detector test, they know she likely wont.

Why bluff? Nick had promised on chicago joeys stream to add in the question for him/ryan/his staff if they ever had pieces of any pros/players in the game, specifically G man. They are hoping nobody presses for lie detector results if robbi won't even take one and no evidence of wrong doing has been found.

Robbi has REBLUFFED, exploiting their angle to make her self look more suspicious so she can pay her SHILL SQUAD less as real people will now do the job for her.
11-04-2022 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Who could possibly question the legitimacy of this cash or money order only testing site?
Yeah because unless they are paying 20K or more in rent each month it’s not a legit business. It’s not supposed to be a swanky place, they aren’t serving food.
11-04-2022 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
So she knows she can only get signals on the river or when using something valuable (a time chip) but she is choosing jack high to do it, even though you said shes a tight player as part of your argument that shes cheating... so she knows how to play tight but forgets how to play poker under your signal cheating theory and just keeps getting in spots with the 300th nuts and burning her money and opportunities to cheat in the future(losing all time chips). Makes sense.

Yeah that is certainly more reasonable than thinking she'd just get the signal every street
/s

With a device it would be trivial to get it every street, this is why everything should have been searched insta.
HUH?? Your logic is its NOT more risky to get signals every street in this game whether via device or getting it relayed to her from someone else w/ the device? Got it.

Pretty sure I didn't say "she knows she can only get signals on the river". Its possible she requested the signal earlier in the hand & didn't get it. The roaming camera guy was right next to her during that hand so its possible the signal wasn't sent or was delayed because of him being there.
11-04-2022 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Because “she went to Las Vegas and building was shady!!” Lol

But passing two in a row makes the data point stronger. The math is simple on that.

For example if it’s 80% accurate the odds she is guilty but passed anyway goes down from 20% to 4%
Right.
11-04-2022 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
What in the world are you talking about? What information could she be signaling? Why do they need to relay signals if one at the table can already see it to relay it?
You really need this explained to you? She's requesting the signal be confirmed. That too complicated for you?

JFC & you're the one going around insulting everyone?

Edit: so you can't think of 1 reason why someone else might have the device instead of her? Not even one? Fascinating.

Last edited by 1outeronriver; 11-04-2022 at 06:40 PM.
11-04-2022 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Schon
Right.
Yes, I know I am.

But HCL can grow some balls and out right accuse the first lie detector company as corrupt or incompetent, which they have zero evidence of though. And no, wanting to pay $1,000 less in rent each month isn't evidence of either of those things.

Just give us some evidence already or it is time for a certain guy to give the chips back to a certain lady.
11-04-2022 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
New theory: Hcl is BLUFFING asking robbi to take a lie detector test, they know she likely wont.

Why bluff? Nick had promised on chicago joeys stream to add in the question for him/ryan/his staff if they ever had pieces of any pros/players in the game, specifically G man. They are hoping nobody presses for lie detector results if robbi won't even take one and no evidence of wrong doing has been found.

Robbi has REBLUFFED, exploiting their angle to make her self look more suspicious so she can pay her SHILL SQUAD less as real people will now do the job for her.
Might be that I am getting closer to baked a bit earlier than usually since today is Friday, but I honestly have no idea wtf you meant with this post.
11-04-2022 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Yes, I know I am.

But HCL can grow some balls and out right accuse the first lie detector company as corrupt or incompetent, which they have zero evidence of though. And no, wanting to pay $1,000 less in rent each month isn't evidence of either of those things.

Just give us some evidence already or it is time for a certain guy to give the chips back to a certain lady.
I have no idea what you are saying. WTF does this have to do with how much rent anyone is paying?
11-04-2022 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BringBackMo
We were all curious about your opinion on this matter. Thank you for sharing.
I was talking to Dominic. He cares.
11-04-2022 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Can we stop with the “there’s a reason they aren’t admissible in court!” narrative? That bar is such a high standard and not relevant to other situations.

Even detractors of lie detector tests still consider them to be 70-80% accurate.

Most reasonable people would consider the act of submitting yourself to the test and passing it to be a significant data point indicating innocence.

But this is a bizarro world where that act is attempted to be twisted as further evidence of guilt. “She went to Las Vegas!”, “The building looks shady!!”, “They advertise that they can help clear innocent people!” and other ha ha statements
I was once accused of a hienous crime. I went the top attorney in the state. Handles all major crimes. The accusation was totally a fabrication, I wasnt even in the country at the time but hadn't proved it yet, I said I dont really wanna take a test when i know there is evidence we can get proving i am innocent I see it only as a risk. HE just laughed and said if you fail no one ever sees it , and if i thought you were guilty I would go to the guy that makes sure you never fail.
11-04-2022 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Can we stop with the “there’s a reason they aren’t admissible in court!” narrative? That bar is such a high standard and not relevant to other situations.

Even detractors of lie detector tests still consider them to be 70-80% accurate.

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So how accurate are polygraphs in actually detecting lies? There have been several reviews of polygraph accuracy. They suggest that polygraphs are accurate between 80% and 90% of the time
Again, there is a reason why detectives use them. They are very accurate and helpful in determining lies. They are not admissible in court because they are not 100% accurate.
11-04-2022 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Schon
I have no idea what you are saying. WTF does this have to do with how much rent anyone is paying?
lol really? Scroll up and see that the legitimacy of the business is being called into question because of the building.

Just in case you didn't know, nicer buildings tend to charge more for rent.
11-04-2022 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1outeronriver
No I have never said anything about the dealer, odd that you immediately jump to that assumption though don't you think? Its been my belief literally since the moment it happened that she was targeting Garrett to make a sick viral hero call w/ something like J high. Q high, K high, whatever.

She's not getting the signal at every street. Of course you don't find it suspect if you assume she would try to cheat/signal on every single street in a highly watched stream game vs players like Ivey & Garrett.
My god, I can't help myself.

Was your first thought really, "I bet there is a cheating ring that is trying to make an insane call on Garrett so Robbi gets more followers?"

Why not Phil Ivey, who is an actual celebrity while Garrett is virtually unknown outside of the world of poker nerds?

Why would RIP, Bryan, Beanz, etc. all want to be involved in this?

Why make this crazy hero call when you are going to lose the pot half the time? If they lost, Robbi would probably just be famous for making one of the worst plays in poker history. And, of course, they'd be out a lot of money.

Do you think Jen Tilly checked back the nut FH losing to 1 combo of quads OTR because she was hoping to be ridiculed online for years?
11-04-2022 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
lol really? Scroll up and see that the legitimacy of the business is being called into question because of the building.

Just in case you didn't know, nicer buildings tend to charge more for rent.
I am pretty sure no one is disputing that rents are determined by a number of supply and demand factors including location, condition, etc., but have no idea what that has to do with anything being discussed.
11-04-2022 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1outeronriver
You really need this explained to you? She's requesting the signal be confirmed. That too complicated for you?

JFC & you're the one going around insulting everyone?

Edit: so you can't think of 1 reason why someone else might have the device instead of her? Not even one? Fascinating.
Lmao, ok so who has the device? Why does she need to request the signal/burn time chips again if someone else at the table can easily and (apparently more obviously) be outfitted with the device? So now your working theory is the other cheater forgot to give their partner the signal in time, I love how you ignored shes going wild with J high and burning time chips and money while she is now apparently going rogue with J high. Maybe she is just FURIOUS that her cheating partner ignored her first signal request now is punishing them by losing as fast as possible!

      
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