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10-12-2022 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Am Alert
My post refers to the moment in time when she flips over her hand.
Instant reaction is cheat-moments later when one considers it was crazy rolling over that hand-that reaction turns to reason.

The other players had time for consideration before offering an opinion.
I can't make any sense of your comment/s.
10-12-2022 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
Maybe someone else said that, how did you get on with English Language modules at college? And why would I want to be ''ultra rich''? Isn't wealth a sign of failure?
Pretending I don't understand words is another shill red flag.
10-12-2022 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
So did she fail the lie detector or did her identical twin take it so she could pass ?

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I am an identical twin as well so I now how this works

When under the age of 12 or so we all look alike but past that the differences are noticeable. Not huge but enough.

There is one video on Robbie's Instagram that shows her twin. I think Robbie is a decent 7/10. Great body. Alright face. Her twin is about the same body but a point higher in face and hair ... maybe because she hasn't had as much plastic surgery and she is a brunette.

Either way?

Wood.
10-12-2022 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin aint ezy
It's funny the amount of people from the Robbi cheated camp,who want to silence anyone with different perspective on this situation.
The other common thing I've noticed is the accusations in here and on twitter,of people being shills eg. ktr,who joined 5 days ago and posts 24 times a day,every single ridiculous conspiracy theory and even made lists of anyone in here,who says anything about there currently being no evidence
Exhibit 2, posted exactly 3 minutes after the similar post from an affiliated bot. Accuse the accusers!
10-12-2022 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gertrude1951
Robbi has a paid PR team and this place has been a key forum for public discussion of the events involving her. With the relatively low amount of unique users posting in these threads compared to twitter/youtube, it seems like this would be low hanging fruit for a PR campaign. I think it's very likely that there are paid shills in here.
From what I've seen most of the same people who are saying there was no evidence of cheating in here now,where doing so the same from day one, well before she would have hired a PR team.

A lot likely aren't even bothering to post any more because there's no relevant info to prove she did anything still and the threads has been taken over by trolls posting ridiculous takes like your paid shills comment.

Unlike many people from both sides,i'm open to the possibility of cheating if evidence is provided but based on what we know for sure is that the only thing coming out of the investigation so far is that Brian stole chips and has done so previously from other players and employees and that Robbi has made a statement to the police about that incident and apparently taken a lie detector test today.
10-12-2022 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 5mcory
The ones claiming there are paid shills are attacking the ones who say no cheating happened.
I'm not sure why Robbi would hire people to say she cheated.
10-12-2022 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by peckx063
1. Called with J4 which is crushed by all value and the majority of the bluffs but happens to be right against this one holding.

2. Lied/Changed her story about multiple things since the hand was played, including her claim that she misread her hand.

3. One of the five people who had real time access to the hole cards palmed 15k off of her stack after the stream

4. She was secretly playing at the same table as her backer

I'm not certain there was cheating, but I'm certain the facts compel me to consider it at least possible if not probable.
1. Points weakly towards cheating, but either requires them to know upcoming cards or have a really **** signaling system that signals to call in this very poor situation. It's a bad call whether it's cheating or not.

2. Points weakly towards cheating, but being flustered and not used to being in the media spotlight is just about as good an explanation.

3. Points away from cheating, imo. For any cheating theory to work, it's a factor that has to be explained away in convoluted ways why the ring wouldn't just pay him off-camera after the show, rather than a factor which supports cheating. If it's cheating, it's really bad cheating, which again, why not a bad call rather than bad cheating? Most simple explanation why this occurred on the same night is that it happens often, and thus would have been caught on any deeply investigated incident.

4. I don't think this really supports cheating or not cheating. Doing shady thing A is not evidence of shady thing B - at best it's character evidence. But wasn't he not originally supposed to play that night?
10-12-2022 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
I stated based on the information I've seen it is probably in the 20-60% range.
20-60% that she did misread it, ya. But you know, reciprocals and ****.
10-12-2022 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BeachPro11
I have no idea what this even means.

And just to be clear ... so far today I have been accused of being a new account FOR Robbi NOT cheating ... and a new account for Robbi IS cheating.

It really goes to show how polarized this entire event and the postings here have become.
What’s up, playa? Just get back from a hot date with one of your many model babe girlfriends? Those incel, autistic accusers can’t slay like you!
10-12-2022 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Not cosigning on Bob being smart but let's assume there are a lot of smart poker players taking up the cheating side, the side which was obviously wrong from the beginning and only gets more wrong over time. Why would smart people be so wrong?

We know Doug Polk is very smart. But I bet if you looked at who has been on the right side vs. the wrong side you will find a difference not in intelligence, but in education. This whole affair, if people could drop their pretenses and admit they were wrong, could be a good moment to consider the value of a good liberal arts education. All those seemingly unnecessary courses are written off as superfluous toward employment or making money generally but they aren't- not if you pay a little attention in class. And no, it isn't necessary to attend a class to get an education, but I don't see people doing the reading on, say, propositional logic, unless it is incentivized socially. IQ cannot obviate the ton of accumulated knowledge and ways of thinking about phenomena that you pick up through a good liberal arts education.
Curious if you can say exactly why you think Doug is “smart”? I read that as you believe him to be an intellectual. I never got that vibe.
10-12-2022 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BringBackMo
Exhibit 2, posted exactly 3 minutes after the similar post from an affiliated bot. Accuse the accusers!
Wtf lol,I don't even know one other person here,is there someone else from Australia posting in here?
Are the mods or someone able to look at IP or something, it's weird how pathetic and desperate some of these comments are coming from the trolls

Last edited by pimpin aint ezy; 10-12-2022 at 08:58 PM.
10-12-2022 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
Pretending I don't understand words is another shill red flag.
You've an overt penchant for misrepresenting or misunderstanding mine.
10-12-2022 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
We do not share the same concept of ''smart''. My smart person would be very unlikely to play poker, or want to play poker, or play it often, as it is such a simple game. That is not to say that people with stronger gambling inclinations can't possess above average cognitive abilities. Someone with a good grasp of rational analysis would not take a strong view on the Robbie situation so quickly unless they had a very close proximity to her.
You’re back! The guy they had posting under your name was a total snooze! Tell us about Dadaism or give us some of your other mythopoetic ramble!
10-12-2022 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by soapdodger
Kind of over this now, but this is an interesting post and funnily enough something I was talking to a friend about at dinner tonight. This has been one of the most fascinating things to me as this has gone on. Why are so many smart poker people having consistently bad takes about this? I don't think it is education, although education tends to help. I tend more towards experience.

But as Alex Jacob brought up on Joey I think they/we have all had our brains fried a little by the recent chess cheating and especially the Postle saga a little less recently. Going deeper than that we seem to live more in a world were conspiracies/hot takes find an abundance of fertile ground to take root. Internet sleuthing is now a thing, whether it be Serial, Staircase, Boston Bombings or one of the OGs - the UB/AP investigations. Furthermore, I wonder how much Lockdowns and Political polarisations play into this. Seems there are just two sides of the fence on any debate now, from Covid to Brexit to Trump to Identity politics et al.

Back to Pro poker players. It seems there's many things at play here. One is definitely Group Think/Peer Pressure. There seems to be a fairly set hierarchical structure embedded within it, which is unsurprising. Whether you got Durrrr's DM/texts stoking the paranoia ... Much of this is obvious but; being a Pro Poker player is hard. Cheating is the ultimate bogeyman, and one most will have encountered. But there's also relationships, getting into games and all the associated. But being a Poker Pro typically involves a certain amount of ego, trusting your reads and sticking to them. And of course if you've diversified to producing content, then that beast needs to be fed. Nuance and reflection leaves an empty stomach.

I'm also sorry to say Poker Pros/Bros tend to have a vastly over-inflated perception of their own wisdom. It's understandable; having the right skill sets to get rich off a card game must warp your general perception somewhat. The dollars give their Dunning-Kruger a golden seal.

And you don't get out much. There's always that next dollar, that next sweet spot to worry about. Underneath it all it's quite a fundamentally terrifying existence. One that calcifies paranoia and thinking the worst of situations and people. Vegas is a terrible place when all is said and done. I admire them, and pity them too.

So anyways, I've been to dinner ... I showed my friend, who doesn't really know much about poker at all, the hand. They intuitively understood what Robbi was doing, and thought Garrett was a bad sport. I told them how much I admired his table demeanor through the years, and his poker skills, but it didn't change their opinion at all really.
This is a fascinating post as well. I have played 5 million poker hands on Stars and numerous hours live and on other apps. I have seen some ****ing wild hands, and heard some even wilder justification. This is simply an unfathomable hand on any level. I remember a hand OBORRA played at 50/100 that pretty much sealed the deal he was cheating, and I had the same reaction when I saw this one.

Having also been cheated, and knowing of an absurd number of other examples (this ‘postle impacted us all’ shows how brand new you are) it is entirely reasonable to have suspicions about this situation. Any attempt to draw the battle lines for who thinks cheat and who doesn’t is extremely lazy. You are cherry-picking those who have made themselves most visible to reach a conclusion
10-12-2022 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
I've had a long connection to Psychologists and have spent many days, weeks, months with lawyers, or in courts...
You don't say
10-12-2022 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BringBackMo
What’s up, playa? Just get back from a hot date with one of your many model babe girlfriends? Those incel, autistic accusers can’t slay like you!
I am married bro. In fact I posted a pic of my wife here a few years ago (big mistake haha) and there are still 2 or 3 guys posting that use her pic as an avatar.

Just look for the asian avatar girl.
10-12-2022 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
20-60% that she did misread it, ya. But you know, reciprocals and ****.
I'd google reciprocal if I was you!
10-12-2022 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by peckx063
Him being caught before and her making a police report are at this point both only verified by herself. As I said in another comment, a lot hinges on Bryan having stolen before or not.
If she has lied about making the report that definitely makes it look like something may have happened.
I think she mentioned the name of the officer on joeys show and i'm not sure how the system works over there but I thought someone mentioned if he has been charged it would be public info
10-12-2022 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BringBackMo
Exhibit 2, posted exactly 3 minutes after the similar post from an affiliated bot. Accuse the accusers!
If we find a legit person to hold the money,I've got $1000 here that I have never posted under any other name in this thread.
Put up or shut up
10-12-2022 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by icmmonster
I have proof but I will only deal with Garrett directly.
Message him on twitter or on here. He’s the original poster (gman). I’m skeptical tho since you’re the 3rd person to come here and say they have proof. The other 2 haven’t been heard from since their post.

“Prove me wrong children, prove me wrong!”
10-12-2022 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
You've an overt penchant for misrepresenting or misunderstanding mine.
No, you're just deflecting because you know your position is absurd, and now you're trying to pretend that my position is the crazy one even though you know you're wrong.
10-12-2022 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
I'd google reciprocal if I was you!
Red flag a second time baby. How many more times you gonna try this?
10-12-2022 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
This is a fascinating post as well. I have played 5 million poker hands on Stars and numerous hours live and on other apps. I have seen some ****ing wild hands, and heard some even wilder justification. This is simply an unfathomable hand on any level. I remember a hand OBORRA played at 50/100 that pretty much sealed the deal he was cheating, and I had the same reaction when I saw this one.

Having also been cheated, and knowing of an absurd number of other examples (this ‘postle impacted us all’ shows how brand new you are) it is entirely reasonable to have suspicions about this situation. Any attempt to draw the battle lines for who thinks cheat and who doesn’t is extremely lazy. You are cherry-picking those who have made themselves most visible to reach a conclusion
I doubt anyone with an average education or IQ/EQ level does not agree Garrett had reason/s to be ''suspicious''. He should have left the table and reported his suspicions to the owners and asked them to investigate. He may well be aware of this now.

I have not played or seen 5 million hands or anywhere near but I've seen people take 'risks' like Robbie before numerous times, albeit not for 109k$. Had his raise been much less I doubt we'd be talking about this matter now.

Last edited by mike tommo; 10-12-2022 at 08:48 PM.
10-12-2022 , 08:43 PM
When I was younger I used to roll my eyes at adults watching soap operas but now that I'm on page 141 of this thread I guess I owe them apology.

10-12-2022 , 08:44 PM
Almost two weeks into this now.... way I see it, there are only a few relevant facts.

#1: No obvious evidence of cheating appears in other hands.

#2: Still no obvious explanation/evidence of how the cheating occurred.

#3: An employee from Hustler casino who had access to the hole cards stole chips from Robbi's stack after the stream.

I think #1 and #2 are exculpatory in the absence of other evidence. If cheating did occur, #3 is the smoking gun. But the fact that Bryan didn't accept the bountry and Robbi appears to be pressing charges kinda throws water on it. If they were colluding, more evidence will almost certainly come out through texts/ security footage/ interviews, etc., and Garrett is vindicated. If nothing else comes out, then we return a place where the lack of evidence does not merit the accusations. Garrett will come out looking worse, but he'll still have his supporters if he sticks to his guns. The best move would be to apologize and move on though.

The likely fake message from Bryan and Robbi's behavior in general are difficult to explain if she's innocent. But after her interview last night, I'm pretty sure she has a personality disorder. So I can write it all off as her being the kind of person who just instinctively lies when presented with something that makes her look bad.

No clue what's going on either way. All I know is this has been the best free entertainment I've had in awhile lol

      
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