Ad Nauseam.

tin foil -pro cheating camp A, argue this proves Robbie was cheating.

tin foil -pro cheating camp B, argue this proves Robbie was cheating, but not very good at it.

no tin foil - anti cheating camp, argue this suggests Bryan spotted Robbie was not bothered about winning or losing money so would not be certain of her chip size, so a good time to remove a few.

Not sure thats 100% correct to be honest. The pocket 3s question is correct but i think the additional 3 comment is being made by someone else as she is answering the pocket 3s question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR_PWVGUMVQ

Its at 2:11:48

I misread your comment, ironic, so will try again, this one, not the first one!

Well, if she said this after she called the 109k it might be she did not want to reveal she believed she had a 3 then. Or looked at her hand after the call, prior to being asked these questions and realised it was a 4, not a 3. Who knows. We don't know what happened, it might be Robbie does not either.

Some are certain she believed she had a 3 and others certain she realised she had a 4, prior to calling the 109k. The sensible position is to entertain both options.

Tbf - the question was asked after Garret was all in so her answering the question was of no consequence apart from the fact she didnt need to answer at all of course.

Let's not forget that this isn't the first time when someone had misread their hand but still won the pot and gave the money back because they felt bad winning the pot. And this was televised as well.

Thanks for replying. The conversation goes like this:

"Do you have pocket 3?"
"**** no"
"But you have a 3 in your hand right?"
"No, this is a pure bluff catcher"

Tommo - This takes place after she called already.

What is a Cheatspiracy Wrecking Ball?

All this kind of got me thinking about conspiracy theories. I was thinking today that all conspiracy theories are chipping away at the Ultimate Conspiracy Theory.

The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory is something like: The world says I'm not especially bright, knowledgeable or special. And if I ever wanted to hold my own on say, politics, it would require hundreds of hours of study. But I seem so bright, knowledgeable and special to myself, and badly want to be so. And I don't want to study for hundreds of hours. Therefore, everybody is wrong. Shills. Pawns of the lizard people. And certainly spending hundreds of hours on Reddit with like-minded people is far more valuable than wasting time grappling with difficult books by experts and geniuses. Yes, it is actually me and people like me who can see the real truth. LOL, everyone else is so dumb.

A light bulb just went off in my pea brain head. When Bryan wrote the letter to Robbi and referred to Gman as "cry baby Garret", what he is saying is Bryan would have never been caught if Garrett hadn't complained about the j4 hand which set off this investigation and ultimately led to Hustler reviewing tapes.

Interesting, who and when was this?

A fair bit of research has been carried out into the ''tinfoil'' brain, or a lot in the last 10-20yrs. (just google Conspiracy Ideation).The thrust of the Psychological papers is these folks seek order, which is more comforting. So, with the Robbie situation, it is preferable to think there is a conspiracy as opposed to a person behaving irrationally, or chaotically. Plus conspiracy psyches tend to need a scapegoat or persons to blame.

Yes, we clarified that now. The poster did not stipulate when in the hand this was initially, and I'd forgotten. So the only consequence of her answers would be how she believed these might be perceived once the hand played out.

I'd have to look up the name of the show. It was sponsored by PokerStars. Line up was Negreanu, Charlie Carrol, Faraz Jakka, Liv Boree, Kevin Hart, and a random amateur. Very similar concept as the loose cannon show. Pretty sure it was a 5 episode stream and it's on YouTube. Probably happened about 4-5 years ago.

The loose cannon bluffed with complete air and Kevin Hart called with King high i believe. As soon as he showed his hand, he said he misread it. She said you're still good. Kevin felt so bad because he knew he shouldn't have won the hand so he gave it back to her.

Basically, really rich people have no regard for money, lol

Edit.. Found it on YouTube. Search Kevin Hart wins and gives cash back

So, do you think the idea saying after the hand she believed she had a 3 was an understandable way of explaining the fact she called, or a way of making her call look more sensible, knowing in fact she had a 4 prior to the call.?

Thanks, I'll have a look. You do hear stories quite often that when poker players have a bad night/run of luck, others will give them a few chips or dollars to allow them to carry on playing or afford the private jet back home!

I just got done re-watching it. The similarities are eerily similar. From the announcers saying he can't make the call to Kevin saying he wants her to stay in the game so here's 15k.

The main difference is Kevin had the same reaction as the rest of would have had if we misread our hand. Obviously Robbi didn't want to react that way because she didn't want the table to know she's not very good at poker, lol

Look I've given up on following other stuff, but that dealer who swiped 15k should have been charged.

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/...gsal-42269.htm

"As I left, Sagbigsal got out and stood in the street taking photos of my car and of me. When I rolled down my window to ask why, and if he knew Robbi, he said: “We’re gonna be following you if you don’t leave now. So you better leave before I follow you wherever you’re going.”

Agreed. Bryan is pissed at Garrett because he cried foul which is what started this investigation and ultimately led to Hustler catching Bryan stealing the chips.

It's all making sense now.

He is being charged. Gardena Police are taking Robbis phone as evidence of a confession tomorrow when she gets back to LA from LV. She has named the lead detective.

So Robbi either misread her hand or intentionally tried to lose to Garrett so she would be guaranteed a seat anytime she wanted by calling with Jack high. She was using Rip's money so this makes even more sense.

But Garrett flipped out so she decided to give the money back to appease the star of the show. Garrett wouldn't have flipped out if Eric P. was not at the table. Garrett was the only one who thought there was cheating. Now he's been feeling guilty about the situation evident by him donating the money to charity.

Hopefully he can admit he was wrong and apologize to everyone involved and more importantly, he needs to apologize to all of his fans that he manipulated into making them believe that Garrett was a victim.

The only positive with Garrett's actions is that they caught Bryan stealing chips from players.

I solved the case, am I eligible for the bounty, lol

when she went on tilt a bit tonight on joeys show she used the words "cry baby garret" again

My curiosity has been satisfied. Remember, sickest call of all time.

Yes, and i can totally get why she wanted to save face, especially after she realized how terrible / insane that call was.

What i don't understand is why 4 days later (on Joey's show) she switched to saying she knew her hand (after the transcript i included above was found, along with other indications)

And i also don't understand why today on Joey's show she said the following:

"I 100% thought i had a 3"
"I was told i can't run with that story because i looked at my hand"

I just find it extremely strange that she would go back to that. I mostly brought this up because everyone here was praising this Alex guy for "destroying the pro-cheater camp" when his main argument was she misread her hand. She clearly didn't. Why is she lying again now? She must think everyone is stupid.

Wow