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03-06-2023 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshko
I have a feeling there might be 8/9 accounts a little bit worried.
Not me
03-06-2023 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Noobtard
Wow case cracked, I can't believe you found out I am really Bryan and PointlessWords is my alt account.
ScotchOnDaRocks/Roger Ramjet have not made a single decent post in the entire thread. Yet you’ve somehow managed to like almost every single one of their posts. I don’t think it’s possible for someone to be that dumb, so I believe you must be another one of the cheaters.


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Originally Posted by Noobtard
It's even more impressive that you found out Luis is controlling all of these other accounts, some of which are nearly 20 years old and have thousands of posts.
Luis has been in poker for a long time. His hendon mob goes back to 2004. I think the oldest account is RJT, with a 2004 join date.

https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=31626


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Originally Posted by Koshko
Your exactly right,

Also magic the dealer is checkraisedraw
I do agree that checkraisdraw is another suspicious account that is probably one of the cheaters. What makes you say checkraisdraw is the dealer? I haven’t seen anything to implicate the dealers in the cheating.


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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
They’ve been saying and/or hinting at stuff like that for awhile and if they truly believe that they are beyond stupid.

This thread would be dead without no cheat crew. And if we were the cheaters that’s exactly what you would want
The strategy seems to be:
1. Post as much garbage in the thread as possible
2. Hope the thread dies
3. Whenever the thread gets bumped, repeat
03-06-2023 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Not me
Can you for once just explain clearly why this topic is so important to you?

Day in... day out, week in... week out, month in... month out... and it just doesn't stop with this account and a few of the others.

Why?

Please. Asking for friends...
03-06-2023 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by justiceforgman

I do agree that checkraisdraw is another suspicious account that is probably one of the cheaters. What makes you say checkraisdraw is the dealer? I haven’t seen anything to implicate the dealers in the cheating.
Ha, he was really afraid when we threatened to expose the dealer involvement, but I don't really think there's anything to gain by proving that Magic and Lauren are card mechanics. They're just following orders "if" they had involvement in cheating. Also, it's pretty clear that Lauren was working with Garrett and Ivey in an effort to expose Robbi's cheating in the first place. If you watch early on in the J4 stream, you can see Ivey intentionally holding his cards outside of the scanner and Lauren rescanning them in. That's why the 6c and the 4h wound up needing swapped out later in the session.
03-06-2023 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by justiceforgman
ScotchOnDaRocks/Roger Ramjet have not made a single decent post in the entire thread. Yet you’ve somehow managed to like almost every single one of their posts. I don’t think it’s possible for someone to be that dumb, so I believe you must be another one of the cheaters.




Luis has been in poker for a long time. His hendon mob goes back to 2004. I think the oldest account is RJT, with a 2004 join date.

https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=31626




I do agree that checkraisdraw is another suspicious account that is probably one of the cheaters. What makes you say checkraisdraw is the dealer? I haven’t seen anything to implicate the dealers in the cheating.




The strategy seems to be:
1. Post as much garbage in the thread as possible
2. Hope the thread dies
3. Whenever the thread gets bumped, repeat
Lol 1 and 2 seem contradictory
03-06-2023 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JackHi
Can you for once just explain clearly why this topic is so important to you?

Day in... day out, week in... week out, month in... month out... and it just doesn't stop with this account and a few of the others.

Why?

Please. Asking for friends...
Why is is so important to you?

Start posting those MS Loserpaints again or hit the road, Jack
03-06-2023 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JackHi
Can you for once just explain clearly why this topic is so important to you?

Day in... day out, week in... week out, month in... month out... and it just doesn't stop with this account and a few of the others.

Why?

Please. Asking for friends...
You have lived in this thread from the start, posting silly memes constantly yet you keep asking that question? lul
03-06-2023 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JackHi
Day in... day out, week in... week out, month in... month out... and it just doesn't stop with this account and a few of the others.

Why?

Please. Asking for friends...
I don't think any of us can know for sure why you do this. Maybe you can tell us.
03-06-2023 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JackHi
Can you for once just explain clearly why this topic is so important to you?
216 of your 249 posts since November are in this thread. That's like 2 a day on average. So maybe that's a question better suited for yourself?
03-06-2023 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
216 of your 249 posts since November are in this thread. That's like 2 a day on average. So maybe that's a question better suited for yourself?
100% of Ramjet's posts are in the thread. This was an odd spot to pick a side. I get that mods are users as well but two of ya'll backing up the more combative posters in the thread is a less than stellar look.
03-06-2023 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
Phil H, obviously one of the most experienced live players and table talkers there is, makes a pretty crazy call of an extremely strong turn raise as well as a river bet, holding king high. He plays the hand strangely at pretty much every point, particularly for a pro. Open limps. Calls the flop 3 ways with a gutter when a potential FD is out there. Totally ignores the fact that the board strongly favors his opponent's range and that his own hand is blocking bluffs. Both Jonathan Little and Bart Hanson find his play pretty surprising.

Once he sees that he's paid off a fastplayed set with king high, Phil starts sputtering nonsense about how he was trapping, and his opponent fell into the trap but just happened to have a set of queens. WTF? Trapping with king high in a 3 way pot? A guy with a set fell into a trap? Did Phil forget what trapping means?

He then says he had AT for top pair when he really had KT. How do you mistake a king for an ace? If he really thought he had an ace, why would he be so flustered by calling down with top pair and a decent kicker? None of this makes sense!

Does this mean the floorman relayed the wrong ahead/behind signal and Phil is now trying to cover up his cheating?

Likely, he is humiliated and a bit disoriented by being so extremely wrong on stream and is just lying and spewing gibberish in a desperate attempt to save face. There is some underlying logic--because he limped, he thinks his opponent will be wildly overbluffing. But instead of just saying that, he mixes lies and gibberish.

For those who think it's unusual for an amateur to do this in live poker.


Good find. Just watched that Phil H. video. Very similar type of situations. I'm convinced now too. She must have just played bad and not cheated.
03-06-2023 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by zrap
Good find. Just watched that Phil H. video. Very similar type of situations. I'm convinced now too. She must have just played bad and not cheated.
The stories never lined up, and there were many of them. She may have just been nervous during the hand, embarrassed after the result, and stuck with "do anything but admit I made a mistake" or the more interesting "do anything but admit I understand poker theory on a higher level than I give off". Both of those would get dropped though when you are accused of cheating. The previous strategies are borne out of ego, and ego is all about self-preservation. This means when a higher danger appears, previous concerns are dropped. It makes it a little puzzling. The trouble with lying/being influenced by the egoic urge to lie is the "boy who cried wolf" issue, where your future declarations of truth are devalued by your previous protests against it.

When I rewatched the hand her just trying to beat Garrett in a hand made way more sense. Watching live the wtf-value of the hand coupled with Garrett's reaction and the HCL game already having scandals circulating lent itself to thinking Garrett may have known something. I've made efforts to be a bit more on the fence as a result, because I know my opinion of the parties involved is not very high, and I know that I considered Garrett smart enough to not make these accusations unless he had instantly worked out how, why, and by whom he was cheated. He had the reaction of someone who knew there was BS going on, and was pulling the plug now that it had turned on him. If he was just going "no way bro" because his bluff didn't work/she misclicked live, then he made a huge and impulsive mistake. I agree with the hand of the year award, because whether we like it or not, it really was.

Videos I would still love to see :

-Robbi and Garrett and Ryan talking offscreen
-Bryan during the J4 hand

These are things we won't be getting, but it's a shame cuz they could close the thread instantly. This drama has been juicy but there really haven't been any winners, and it is unlikely the parties on either side of this thread will find any significant closure.
03-06-2023 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
The stories never lined up, and there were many of them. She may have just been nervous during the hand, embarrassed after the result, and stuck with "do anything but admit I made a mistake" or the more interesting "do anything but admit I understand poker theory on a higher level than I give off". Both of those would get dropped though when you are accused of cheating. The previous strategies are borne out of ego, and ego is all about self-preservation. This means when a higher danger appears, previous concerns are dropped. It makes it a little puzzling. The trouble with lying/being influenced by the egoic urge to lie is the "boy who cried wolf" issue, where your future declarations of truth are devalued by your previous protests against it.

When I rewatched the hand her just trying to beat Garrett in a hand made way more sense. Watching live the wtf-value of the hand coupled with Garrett's reaction and the HCL game already having scandals circulating lent itself to thinking Garrett may have known something. I've made efforts to be a bit more on the fence as a result, because I know my opinion of the parties involved is not very high, and I know that I considered Garrett smart enough to not make these accusations unless he had instantly worked out how, why, and by whom he was cheated. He had the reaction of someone who knew there was BS going on, and was pulling the plug now that it had turned on him. If he was just going "no way bro" because his bluff didn't work/she misclicked live, then he made a huge and impulsive mistake. I agree with the hand of the year award, because whether we like it or not, it really was.

Videos I would still love to see :

-Robbi and Garrett and Ryan talking offscreen
-Bryan during the J4 hand

These are things we won't be getting, but it's a shame cuz they could close the thread instantly. This drama has been juicy but there really haven't been any winners, and it is unlikely the parties on either side of this thread will find any significant closure.
No winners? Beg to differ, I’ve won
03-06-2023 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
The stories never lined up, and there were many of them. She may have just been nervous during the hand, embarrassed after the result, and stuck with "do anything but admit I made a mistake" or the more interesting "do anything but admit I understand poker theory on a higher level than I give off". Both of those would get dropped though when you are accused of cheating. The previous strategies are borne out of ego, and ego is all about self-preservation. This means when a higher danger appears, previous concerns are dropped. It makes it a little puzzling. The trouble with lying/being influenced by the egoic urge to lie is the "boy who cried wolf" issue, where your future declarations of truth are devalued by your previous protests against it.

When I rewatched the hand her just trying to beat Garrett in a hand made way more sense. Watching live the wtf-value of the hand coupled with Garrett's reaction and the HCL game already having scandals circulating lent itself to thinking Garrett may have known something. I've made efforts to be a bit more on the fence as a result, because I know my opinion of the parties involved is not very high, and I know that I considered Garrett smart enough to not make these accusations unless he had instantly worked out how, why, and by whom he was cheated. He had the reaction of someone who knew there was BS going on, and was pulling the plug now that it had turned on him. If he was just going "no way bro" because his bluff didn't work/she misclicked live, then he made a huge and impulsive mistake. I agree with the hand of the year award, because whether we like it or not, it really was.

Videos I would still love to see :

-Robbi and Garrett and Ryan talking offscreen
-Bryan during the J4 hand

These are things we won't be getting, but it's a shame cuz they could close the thread instantly. This drama has been juicy but there really haven't been any winners, and it is unlikely the parties on either side of this thread will find any significant closure.
No winners? Beg to differ, I’ve won and have found closure on that

If evidence comes across my desk I can always reopen the case.
03-07-2023 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
Ha, he was really afraid when we threatened to expose the dealer involvement, but I don't really think there's anything to gain by proving that Magic and Lauren are card mechanics. They're just following orders "if" they had involvement in cheating. Also, it's pretty clear that Lauren was working with Garrett and Ivey in an effort to expose Robbi's cheating in the first place. If you watch early on in the J4 stream, you can see Ivey intentionally holding his cards outside of the scanner and Lauren rescanning them in. That's why the 6c and the 4h wound up needing swapped out later in the session.
Thinking you’re an immoral loser for trying to ruin peoples lives with no evidence is not the same as being “afraid”.
03-07-2023 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
The stories never lined up, and there were many of them. She may have just been nervous during the hand, embarrassed after the result, and stuck with "do anything but admit I made a mistake" or the more interesting "do anything but admit I understand poker theory on a higher level than I give off". Both of those would get dropped though when you are accused of cheating. The previous strategies are borne out of ego, and ego is all about self-preservation. This means when a higher danger appears, previous concerns are dropped. It makes it a little puzzling. The trouble with lying/being influenced by the egoic urge to lie is the "boy who cried wolf" issue, where your future declarations of truth are devalued by your previous protests against it.

When I rewatched the hand her just trying to beat Garrett in a hand made way more sense.
Why would you not consider they are all related? All the things you listed could all be true at the same time. You keep assuming so many things as usual, like how a female would act in a specific situation when that alone is huge error of logic. This is too complicated for you to be honest.

Its so simple. She was desperate to beat him in a hand. It wasn't her money. She spewed word salad because she is an arrogant fish, so there is nothing to 'drop'. None of this even matters actually. What matters is that all the evidence surrounding the hand demonstrates no cheating. Trying to read her mind is irrelevant. No other hands looked like cheated. Infact other hands clearly proved she was not cheating. Nothing to see here.
03-07-2023 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Thinking you’re an immoral loser for trying to ruin peoples lives with no evidence is not the same as being “afraid”.
Immoral losers cheat at card games for a living.
03-07-2023 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
100% of Ramjet's posts are in the thread. This was an odd spot to pick a side. I get that mods are users as well but two of ya'll backing up the more combative posters in the thread is a less than stellar look.
Who's picking a side? If Ramjet were to start asking people why they post so much in this thread, and then did it two or three more times, he'd likely be getting asked the same thing. Posting memes every day making fun of posters and then asking multiple times why others are posting in this thread is...quite a look.
03-07-2023 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
Immoral losers cheat at card games for a living.
Yeah and they also call people cheaters without a shred of evidence. Outside of your little echochamber people aren’t throwing around wild accusations like you are. The fact is that it’s easy for you in your pseudonymity to throw around the word cheater, but you would never say that to peoples’ faces, and if you did you’d probably shrivel up like a raisin. That goes for most of the keyboard warriors in this thread on the cheating side who want to say everyone on hustler is in on some grand cheating conspiracy, as if that is some routine thing to say like water is wet and 2+2 = 4, and not the incredibly damaging accusation that it is.
03-07-2023 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Yeah and they also call people cheaters without a shred of evidence. Outside of your little echochamber people aren’t throwing around wild accusations like you are. The fact is that it’s easy for you in your pseudonymity to throw around the word cheater, but you would never say that to peoples’ faces, and if you did you’d probably shrivel up like a raisin. That goes for most of the keyboard warriors in this thread on the cheating side who want to say everyone on hustler is in on some grand cheating conspiracy, as if that is some routine thing to say like water is wet and 2+2 = 4, and not the incredibly damaging accusation that it is.
I will gladly tell these cheaters
my thoughts to their faces, and I will certainly do so the next time I see them,
this summer.

If they show up, they will hear from me,
face to face.
03-07-2023 , 10:13 AM
Oh the lady who magically correctly called 100k with J high is scum and not a rich whale? Who would have tought...
03-07-2023 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
I never wanted that to end, was genuinely one of the best things I've ever read.

Big up yo self Gman
Still feel the same way about the OP?

Big up yo!

Lol
03-07-2023 , 01:18 PM
I don't know what that's in reference to but I still stand by my opinion, that hasn't changed.

I only drop in this thread once or twice a month these days, I see you are still obsessed with it, living in here, and arguing all day with anyone and everyone. Enjoy
03-07-2023 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
100% of Ramjet's posts are in the thread. This was an odd spot to pick a side. I get that mods are users as well but two of ya'll backing up the more combative posters in the thread is a less than stellar look.
I certainly didn't pick a side. I don't even follow this thread except for when there's a post notification or somebody sends me something about it. Which happened last night, so I checked.

TBH, I don't even know how many sides we currently have and what those sites are. Let alone which poster is on what side. Are people still talking about the J4 hand or did you move on to something else? I was merely pointing out how hilarious it is that this specific poster would ask that question.

      
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