Pretending to be stupid doesn’t help prove your point. Garret lost other big hands without any complaints. Except for the J4 stuff his reputation was pretty clean.

I am not pretending to be stupid. I would like his explanation and the evidence he has that he was cheated. Do I think there's a high % chance that Garrett will cry that he was cheated if he loses? No, obviously not, but clearly, if a hand is played that he doesn't like, it's a possibility.

I like Garrett I miss him getting it all in and putting up that one finger. He handled this Robbi situation terribly, and now he blocks anyone on Twitter who asks him about it. If he can't handle criticism, he should probably stay retired, imo.

The J4 discussion was filled with morons and people pretending to be morons to troll or because they think that’s how you “win” arguments. I don’t blame him for blocking people on Twitter when more than half the accounts interacting with poker content are bots.

It's amazing he chose to play on stream,chose to make the redicilous post on here about the J4 hand,posts about these secret updates he has coming (yet absolutely zero updates 14-15 months later) yet he wants anyone who responds to him to be part of his echo chamber.

His whole spiel about missing the competition blah blah blah is more Garret BS. He misses the butter soft games that were handed to him,games he largely helped keep out any actual competition.

Nothing wrong with only wanting to play juicy games. But there's no reason to pretend otherwise. He's gonna get a seat if he wants on streams bc he gets views.

I totally understand his initial reaction that night. I get being emotional in the moment. But the way he's handled it since then has been awful.

I think when people lose they tend to show their real personalities. Even before the J4 hand the very rare times he lost he'd act entitled and passive aggressive towards people and you'd see the fake nice guy fasade fade away. That sort of thing is annoying from anyone let alone a guy who has printed so much money in poker.

Of course the fact he was cheated in a home game and kept it quiet since he was getting paid back the money he lost tells you all you need to really know about him.

garrett has always been an anxious and super self conscious guy, natually he won’t deal with criticism as well as someone like doug polk

that said it’s very obvious to anyone who has played poker professionally that it’s incredibly unlikely garrett would react this way because someone played a hand he didn’t like

hell me and many other good player’s instant reaction was “lol guaranteed cheating” when the J4 hand happened, and I see tons of high card calls, this one was just incredibly weird

Agreed, he's lost TONS of bigger pots to coolers, fish playing bad but getting there, etc. and had always handled it with class from what I had seen of him on the streams. He was the golden boy and gots tons of love from everyone for being a class act.

Then the J4 hand happened and suddenly the pitchforks come out.

I still don't get the love for Robbi, she's been shown multiple times on camera being an absolutely nasty person to others, talking over them, shouting them down. She was gung-ho about threats of lawsuits against people over calling her a cheater, but then when the investigation showed Bryan Sabisgal taking chips off her stack she says she's not going to press charges. Then as soon as the public is like "wait a second.........that's even more suspicious that you won't press charges against an HCL insider who we have evidence actually STOLE from you" and she realized it made her look even more guilty than she already did, ONLY THEN did she decide to press charges.

Postle wasn't "proven" guilty either but plenty of people believe he's guilty of cheating.

We may never get "proof" that Robbi cheated in that hand, but I still firmly believe she did (just like we don't have "hard proof" that Postle cheated but most people believe he did). Just because YOU would cheat better with more nuance doesn't mean others would. Criminals mess up via greed, hubris or desperation all the time, it's what calls attention to them. Just because we can't prove something happened...........doesn't mean it didn't happen.

All stuff you are saying about her personality occurred after the cheating stuff came out, no one had any issues with her in the few streams she was in prior.

If these accusations are false, you can't really blame her for being aggressive about this. Considering she's had 100s of hours of negative videos made on her and multiple 1000 page forum posts slagging her off (like this one).

The comparison to Mike Postle is pretty ironic as there is significantly more evidence (thousands of hands vs one hand), yet this one has got way more attention.

I can't remember the exact video but there was a clip, some sort of interview with multiple people patched in, including a lady Robbi had played with before. And the lady from my recollection wasn't saying anything bad about Robbi or being rude to her, but Robbi was extremely nasty towards this lady in the video and pretty much showed her true character.

As far as the comparison to Postle, the point is that a lot of the defenders of Robbi point to her not being proven guilty, so those of us who believe she is guilty are supposed to not be allowed to think that way.

But then Postle wasn't "proven" guilty either, there was no "hard proof" or "smoking gun" that we are being asked to provide in the Robbi situation. It's an issue of a lot of things adding up (in both cases) that point to something being rotten in Denmark. There's enough smoke, imo, that there's got to be fire. It'll likely never be proven, but I'll die on this hill that I firmly believe Garrett was cheated.

I will add this, it was extremely stupid for Garrett to post he had some evidence that would blow the case wide open and then never come through with it and didn't help his cause.

There actually is hard proof Postle cheated lol. You can literally see how he cheated by looking down at his phone, and the dozens of clearly cheating hands that could only happen by cheating. Only an idiot would think that is comparable to the j4 hand which was an awful example cheating. I hope Garret is shamed every session for what he did to her. He is a disgrace.

I'm sure Garret will appreciate it.

This thread is quickly turning into other threads that are locked, but will respond that no one is disputing that the number of questionable hands Postle played is way higher. The point those of us who still believe the odds are tilted towards Robbi cheating are making is about the standard of proof the Robbi defenders demand.

Although people have theories how Robbi could have cheated, no hard evidence has ever surfaced (and I fully agree Garrett is an idiot for continuing to claim he will produce said evidence). Similarly, we all believe we know the broad strokes for how Postle cheated, but no hard evidence has ever been produced. The way he plays multiple hands makes it very obvious he knows his opponents hole cards, but many of us would say the same about the J4 hand.

It is just one hand so totally get why many people believe the call was just an inexperienced poker player clicking buttons. I am 60/40 cheated, but without the other weird occurrences that surrounded Robbi I would put the odds of cheating much lower.

Regardless, no one is changing their mind over a year into the discussion and Garrett needs to stop posting about being in the verge of cracking the case.

dear dobby, i highly suggest you familiarize yourself with the term "circumstantial evidence" before you continue to call that hard proof

i think postle cheated without a shadow of a doubt, but there is no hard proof - there's a non zero chance he was just watching friends reruns in his crotch

Funny thing people comparing it with Postle. Even Postle wouldnt have bothered making the J4 call.. Why the f would you take a flip if you have a cheating device??

That's snowmonkey from Reddit I think


Oy vey, you guys act like people who cheat are all these high-level thinkers who've figured out how to disguise their actions without anyone catching on. People who do this sort of thing slip up through greed, hubris or desperation.

It's likely that Robbi was not the mastermind behind the scheme, and was taking her direction on calling, folding or raising from another party. So it's not improbable for her to just follow whatever signal she received.

In the end, superusers on Ultimate Bet took lines that aroused suspicion and eventually got them caught because they likely felt they were invincible and wouldn't get caught. If they had cheated "smart" they could've gotten away with it for a long time, perhaps indefinitely.

Likewise, Postle decided to cheat on a livestream where hisoutrageous calls or plays could be dissected and figured out (and yet still no "hard proof" like people want us to provide with the Robbi incident, both are just based on circumstantial evidence)

I don't dispute that Robbi COULD have just been drugged up, nervous, playing bad, whatever and there is always a possibility she wasn't cheating. But I lean far more closely to there was cheating in that incident.

From the conflicting word salad, the putting him on Ace-high and calling with Jack-high, the numerous pauses in a number of hands where we're supposed to believe she's "thinking" about what to do, but looks like she's actually "waiting" for her signal on what she should do, not wanting to press charges against someone they had on camera stealing from her (yet wanting to sue everyone for claiming there was cheating involved), her style of playing in previous and future streams never matching up with how she made a Jack-high hero call in this instance, and the list goes on and on and it's all been beaten to death in the original thread and neither side will change their minds so it's just like putting a bumper sticker on your car and shouting out to all the people who agree with you while encouraging those who disagree with you to key your car.

So anyway, we have someone saying they believe he'll play on the lodge livestream, any other guesses where he might land?

Good lord. I can see why that guy with the sign is hiding his identity, that is pure cringe.

Also pretty fun that Matusow is calling that guy an idiot for not seeing cheating, when he was Mike Postles only supporter.

lol @ minimal effort....when the clueless think they have a clue

Maybe they knew it would make all the dullards instantly discount any possibility of cheating.

Yeah that’s it, what a smart plan.

They did everything right except for winning money.

Robbi won the hand and the money.

Mike's one of the clearest examples of cheating on stream. "I folded a flush."

Regardless of whether cheating happened, the entertainment and drama were worth it. I hope it's forever a mystery.

And she gave half back but your theory was it was some masterful subterfuge in order to mask the big money making operation

Sad situation for this young man - self inflicted and he keeps digging…

Do ET!