Good luck guys. Those companies usualy take insane ammount of money out of settlements.

Even their coffee intern gets paid like 60$/hr. Last settlement i was part in had not many people working for it. They took out 3millions a year to repay 10-20k people and as far as i know they still have not paid back most people. That was 9years ago.

They were appointed by the DOJ

First things first.....there, they're, and their. Sorry, I had to.

This. Should have been all over Nov. 6. Would have been nice and clean. The only people that will truly know what is going on is Pokerstars. I'm talking money, points, medals, etc. Could have just been so much easier on everyone but as the US always does, sticks their noses in places it does not belong.

I really don't get why this should take that long assuming they are getting paid a fee to do this and not by the hour. They have all the info as stars would have it and paying balances should not be all that difficult. I will KMS if the decided to payout deposits vs balances, just saying.

While I don't think the email sign-up is anything too major, I don't remember the last time I needed a physical address and phone number to sign up for a newsletter.

P-A-T-I-E-N-C-E.

We've gotten this far. We are still freerolling. We are not supposed to be getting anything. There has been positive progress every step. Let them do their job.

What!?!?!

whoooooo.... whoooooo...

breath... must remember to breath...

*inhale* *exhale*

Ok. Everythings going to be OK.

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No actually, it's not. There you go again not even focusing on the real question at hand and ignoring what people have concerns with. And no, I didn't suggest you not even ask but thanks again for misinterpreting what you should focus on. I suggest you actually do your job as VP of Player relations and ask the community before you make statements that represent the poker players on an issue that can drastically affect time to repayment.

And given that it has taken the DOJ 7 months just to select a claims administrator, you think they are going to be expeditious on an already proven accounting mess of an issue that will cost the DOJ 10s of millions more dollars to payout? Get real.


Yes, congrats on your poll of 'would you like a) money or b) more money.' It was incredibly informative and we learned a great deal from it. Please keep defending on how genius that poll was. The timing couldn't have been more perfect too. After your meeting with the DOJ where you already made claims for the poker players.

Your delusions are quite powerful on this subject and you continue to try and sell lies. Claims to engaging the community when you already met with the DOJ and made statements on our behalf. None of your posts according to timelines of when you met did any such thing so stop lying. I've actually done a better job engaging you on this issue than you have with the community.

Enough already. Your 1 trick pony playbook of stating a completely different question and answering it to create a diversion on your shortcomings on where you are getting pwned has been played out. Anyone with an IQ over 2 digits sees right through it and it doesn't win arguments.

Points greatly affects me too at nearly 800k with a boatload of unconverted medals... but I'm not going to pretend to know where majority threshold for pain is when it comes to repayment. You might want to though, VP of Player Relations.

Mine showed one large lump sum being removed. Others have said the same. Not sure why yours would be different?

Maybe email FTP then...

payback is going to take at least 12 months. think people would have their money when wsop 2014 rolls around.

Thanks Rich! Most of us are not furious at you.

I put the mailing address where I want them to send my check, because addresses have a way of sticking around in databases, and people can F up and use the wrong one. Even though theoretically this form is "only" for email updates.

If they need me to verify my old address at some point, I'll gladly do that.

Thanks, I just did the same.

Vatican is listed as a country you might be from.
Pope retires unexpectedly.
Coincidence??

So this is the new FTP money thread? I'm here for the money.

""Unfortunately we cannot provide your previous Full Tilt Poker balance or any information on previous deposits or withdrawals, as customers within the United States are required to go through a remission process administered by the US Department of Justice for access to balance or funds.

What did PPA do wrong? We had lawyers there representing us before the DoJ and pressing for repayment. I get that some think we can march into the DoJ and twist arms, but it just doesn't work that way.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Cheers.

that register to receive updates thing is just pretty much a newsletter right? any updates they email me is gonna be posted here anyways? it doesn't give you like a head start once the claims process starts

Who knows? I don't see how it can hurt to sign up. Just leave the other info blank if you don't feel like giving it (e.g. I left out my phone number).

Use the automated account history function under the promotions tab. Whatever the account balance is at the end is presumably what you're owed, if it doesn't show it being removed.

Thanks!

For the life of me I can't understand how that constitutes a "scheme", Ponzi or otherwise.

A "scheme" seems to imply, to me anyway, that the whole operation of Full Tilt was a sham that was designed to defraud players. In reality, Full Tilt operated as a fully functional poker site, paying out winnings, for years. Their degenerate bosses paid themselves insane dividends, loaned their buddies millions of dollars from the company funds, and generally weren't prepared for a massive bank run. That's not a "scheme", that's just an idiotically-run company owned by greedy morons.


I think it's a reasonable question to ask, if you're unfamiliar with the nuts and bolts of this case as it developed over the last 2 years and just wander into NVG looking for info.

The problem I have is with the dickheads who post here day in and day out about deposits and balances even though they are totally familiar with the case and it's completely obvious it can't be anything but balances.

Well, perps generally get punished more harshly for "schemes" than for gross incompetence, so assuming that the DOJ wants to make headlines with long sentences etc., it's motivated to position the FTP decision-makers as criminal masterminds (LOL).

I think that's why they vomited up "Ponzi scheme" way back in the first press release, although they later realized that position wasn't sustainable.

So now they have retreated to plain-vanilla "scheme". I think there WERE certain actions that were outright intentional fraud rather than simple incompetence, especially in the endgame with the busto processors and Black Friday fallout. But who knows for sure-- lawyers get paid big bucks to argue endlessly over this sort of thing.

I for 1, agreed entirely with your post three_dee, and thought it was nicely written. Summed up my thoughts of these threads perfectly.

Mine has no removal (last item was a rakeback - after Black Friday). I would guess that the last cell in column H will be what they are expecting to pay out. If that's zero there may be work to do to prove you are owed $$. Did you do a big cashout around Black Friday?