when you file a claim you should receive an email to the address you supplied that you did so successfully. also you should have seen your balance when you filed your claim. it specifically asks you is this the amount you had in your account, do you want to dispute it... ftp balances for american players have been wiped out on their site, the only way to see what you had is to request your account history


pretty much. it's like a super old dude using internet forums for the first time responding to every troll post.

It's not the point of why he's fighting, it's the point that he always is. Btw calling random people idiots is something you wouldn't do In real life so maybe you should act like you would in real life.

One thing I've learned in this fight is that some troll posts require responses. Otherwise, they grow and become the community zeitgeist.

It is just you.

It makes sense to me that you would pay top dollar for a bridge in Brooklyn.

He always is because people like you keep stirring up trouble. And, clean out your own closet before you start calling out other people regarding their online etiquette. You asked a question. I gave you answer. And the same answer goes for any other petulant children who want to criticize the PPA. I've said it before, I'll say it again, if you are a poker player and criticize the PPA, you are either child or an adult with deep seeded issues and I'll gladly tell you that in so many words in person or online.

might as well be optimistic until they give me reason not to

Everything that has happened from black Friday to now is a good reason not to. I can't see a single reason to be that optimistic.

I could really use the $$$ so I'll be blindly optimistic since they have more than enough cash on hand to pay everyone.

Can the PPA or someone else just ask the GCG for clarification about what the intent and meaning of the deposited funds criteria is? The GCG posted an updated FAQ primarily related to affiliates. Why can't they just add another FAQ about this topic?

GCG has been so inaccurate already. Even if you do get a response you won't know until DOJ makes their own rulings.

GCG is gathering claims, not making final say.

The PPA has brought this issue to the DOJ. So have others. But neither the DOJ not GCG have issued clarification of this particular issue.

This issue was raised at the same time as the issue of clarifying the meaning and status of 'affiliates'. Shortly after the issue was raised with the DOJ, we saw GCG amend its methods and issue an entire new process for 'affiliates.'

Eventually this point will be clarified too, the only question is when.

Which brings up emphasizing the most important and point regarding this process: GCG is only screening applications; whatever a person may have been told to the contrary:

1. Everyone has the right to file a petition. If anyone tells you otherwise they are wrong.

2. How to file without having received control numbers in an email is explained on the GCG website. So is how to file with numbers while disputing the amount.

3. Clearly the only smart move, at least for anyone who believes they are owed money as a player on FTP, is to FILE A PETITION NO MATTER WHAT GCG SAYS.

4. GCG MUST ACCEPT AND REPORT ALL FILED PETITIONS. Many (hopefully most) will be routinely resolved with an agreed upon payment that need not directly involve individual DOJ review. But any petition rejected for any reason by GCG will get reviewed individually by DOJ attorneys. And there is a method for appeal even if denied at that level.

5. BUT ALL OF THAT WILL ONLY HAPPEN IF YOU FILE BY THE DEADLINE.

If you need help to get your petition together you need to first look at the sticky as PX links (and mostly maintains). If still uncertain search these forums for previous discussions of your question. If you still cannot find an answer, perhaps post the question and see if someone can point you to the information. And if still uncertain perhaps consider the value of hiring a professional to assist you.

Skallagrim

Ask them an ETA on when were getting paid. GCG brags about sending out 1.4M emails and having received 27k petitions...its pretty easy to know what value those 27k petitions represent by now. Its literally a 10 second query. At what point are we going to know when were getting paid? Theres still another 30 days until deadline, and have to imagine that 95% to 97% of the people who are going to file have already filed. GCG knows how much $ they have to distribute and very likely they know the current liability that the 27k petitions represent. How long is the review period going to last before we start seeing distributions?

LMAOOOO good one screamin. nothing wrong with great optimism. If somehow we do get our monies before 2014, I promise I will donate at least $2,000 towards helping UNLV college girls from ages 18 to 23 get their degrees at the rhino/sapphire foundation. Any other ftp victims in with me? It's a good cause

I will certainly order a copy of your prospectus.

With all due respect, it really irritates me that the PPA is claiming credit for the most recent announcement about affiliates. I like the PPA and everything, but it really bothers me. The letter sent to GCG isn't even close to the first time the affiliate issue was raised. I spoke to a specialist the same day the PPA sent the letter and he told me an announcement about affiliates was forthcoming. Also, he specifically said that letters and inquiries from players over the last few weeks is what raised the issue to the DOJ. Just stop it already.

It irritates me that you think my post claims that the PPA letter ALONE prompted the recent clarification and change regarding affiliates.

My posts have always recognized that the PPA AND OTHERS have been raising these issues.

Also, the PPA has been in a regular dialogue with DOJ officials regarding issues with this process since it started. The letter was a round up of all the issues that the PPA is aware of and has been bringing to the DOJ's attention ON BEHALF OF PLAYERS. It was not, as you seem to assume, a first contact out of the blue that led to an immediate response.

So how about we all move on by simply accepting the obvious: the PPA and everyone else who has contacted the DOJ with concerns are all helping this process move along.

Skallagrim

Fine. At least we agree that we are all irritated.

Skall, first off, thank you for regularly posting in this thread. I think the letter would have been much better received if you had posted it instead of Pappas. Pappas has had pretty much zero communication in this thread and then shows up the day after we get some good news and acts like he was the one responsible for it. It had been over two months since he had posted in that thread, meanwhile people were begging the PPA for info. I don't think I have ever said a bad word about the PPA, but as soon as I saw the post from Pappas I just rolled my eyes. I thought it was terrible form on his part. It is the type of move I would expect from a politician.

Again, thanks to you, TE, DF, PX, Ford, and everyone else who has helped us get information. It is greatly appreciated.

Has anybody been able to call in and confirm and or change some of the details they gave GCG?

I don't have a pressing need just curious if anybody has actually been able to do it.

Thanks for your thoughts here. As you can imagine, it is not possible for me to be a regular contributor to the forums, although I do review them and post when I can. As for the letter, it just so happened that I was in front of my computer and on 2+2 that evening and felt I should share what we had written and sent the DOJ. We had planned to include it in our weekly newsletter (which went out yesterday), but since GCG made the announcement I thought it was appropriate to release it earlier. If I came across as claiming sole "credit" for the Friday announcement that was not my intention. God knows many, many poker players have contacted Garden City Group and DOJ with their concerns.

Since DOJ is the decision maker in all remission policy (GCG carries out those decisions), the PPA has limited our formal communications the decision makers at AFMLS and SDNY and we have remained in constant contact with them since it was announced that they would be responsible for remitting players funds. We have met with DOJ on multiple occasions, exhanged regular emails, and we have sent at least 3 formal letters on behalf of our members asking questions and advocating for specific goals. We have shared all that with the poker community and on these forums.

Again, this is a complete team effort and every player who has taken time to ask questions and demand answers should be pleased that the DOJ and GCG are being responsive.

Thanks,

John A. Pappas
PPA
Executive Director

Well...I guess I can go ahead and file my claim now undisputed.

http://www.fulltiltpokerclaims.com/faq.php#Q26

26. Are Full Tilt Points, Iron Man Medals and other bonuses going to be refunded or included in my account balance?
Full Tilt Points were a marketing tool and have no monetary value – they will not be refunded and are not reflected in account balances. Iron Man Medals and similar bonuses will also not be redeemed for their cash value and are not reflected in account balances.

Saw that too.

Since stars is paying them, can I drive to Canada, document to stars that I'm there somehow and just cash them out that way? (or do I have to redeem the points/clear the bonus etc.?) I'm only 3ish hours from the border and driving up/spending the day with a Canadian friend would be totally worth it.

Not possible. You'd have to set up an account there. Can take 1+ week. Pretty sure they have a play through as well

Thanks for posting. Like you, I was waiting to submit my claim until I heard something about our points.