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Reminder that the Chance and Perkins odds are so bad that those bets have to be negative EV for Phil. It would feel kind of dumb if he beats geniunely good players in the challenge (like he has so far) but is a loser overall just because he ran bad in one of the matches and had to pay out a whole million.

He mentioned on stream that he sold significantly more action on the side bets than his non-side bet performance. Funnily enough, I think he also said he had more of his action on the downswing vs. Veni than on the comeback, so he might have barely broken even for that challenge all things considered.

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05-27-2020 , 01:00 PM

#377

happy to be hear

adept

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Final tally? Like 230k up? Sidebet included

Oh, and if he did sell a lot for the veni comeback, that makes total sense. I mean it would have been dumb not to. You are right, he might be even, better that then 1.5m in the hole.

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05-27-2020 , 01:59 PM

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GazzyB123

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Genuinely curious to hear if people think Phil had an edge over AF.

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05-27-2020 , 02:44 PM

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kaeru

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Originally Posted by GazzyB123

Genuinely curious to hear if people think Phil had an edge over AF.

My intuition is no. AF has been in the streets almost every day for literally the past decade+, whereas Phil has been chilling in soft live las vegas player pools. Additionally, I doubt Phil has got much HU action in the past decade.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Phil isn't a smart dude, or an absolute crusher or whatever. I just don't think that he wins against the best of the best over significant sample sizes.

That all being said, he's proving me wrong thus far! Got a soft spot for Phil and I'm rooting for him.

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05-27-2020 , 03:32 PM

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Purasevic

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So who is next?Is match against Bill Perkins postponed?

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05-27-2020 , 07:18 PM

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Santzes

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Originally Posted by pk1d

Watching Perkins & Galfond play the first sessions, I don't think Perkins has that high of a chance of winning..

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05-27-2020 , 07:26 PM

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Slugant

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he is getting ghosted by jungleman for the remainder though

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05-27-2020 , 09:18 PM

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golfbum983

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Originally Posted by Santzes

Watching Perkins & Galfond play the first sessions, I don't think Perkins has that high of a chance of winning..

Probably not much higher then 0%. Unless galfond doesn’t care or let’s his wife play.

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05-28-2020 , 04:46 AM

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MastaAces

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Originally Posted by rickroll

Phil Galfond, not going to dig through his tweet history (they were also shared in the original thread) but he excluded a few guys like sauce and ike from the get go and got a bunch of people take up the offer and only accepted from a small handful of them

he has never claimed it was open to all, that "anyone" offer was only for coaches of rival training sites - anyone else could be (and some were) denied

Correct, I recall this as well. Was asking for the source because I don't remember the exact exclusion list. Someone please post the link.

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05-28-2020 , 04:49 AM

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golfbum983

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Originally Posted by MastaAces

Correct, I recall this as well. Was asking for the source because I don't remember the exact exclusion list. Someone please post the link.

I don’t think was a list but people speculated that berrisweet and Linus would play him, not sure about others.

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05-28-2020 , 07:13 AM

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alberthofmann

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Originally Posted by GazzyB123

Genuinely curious to hear if people think Phil had an edge over AF.

Never imo. Pg is mega good, but there is a difference if u play highstakes almost everyday, study and still win like AF did.

15k hands in PLO hu is like nothing. Make this a 100k hands challenge and the chances of AF not winning in ev with 3-5bb/100 or more is very low imo.

I ran some of the AF pg hands in monker and pg clearly deviates from optimal play. Not always but still so much that I would guess AF should win over a big sample.

Tbh would be freaking amazing if he could get a hu challenge vs berrysweet. I would pay to see that happening.

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05-28-2020 , 08:20 AM

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Eponymous

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Originally Posted by rickroll

In his original blog post on the challenge, he listed those not eligible including sauce because they were part of his team:

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Originally Posted by Phil Galfond

An open challenge to anyone who currently makes training videos for a site other than Run It Once (Sorry Sulsky, Kruk, Joni, Cory, Richard, and the rest of the RIO team!).

He later opened it up to non-coaches because he wasn’t getting enough takers.

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05-28-2020 , 08:31 AM

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ejames209

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inb4 he gets crushed by Perkins and it turns out he was playing jungle the whole time

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05-28-2020 , 08:33 AM

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Mike Haven

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Originally Posted by MastaAces

Correct, I recall this as well. Was asking for the source because I don't remember the exact exclusion list. Someone please post the link.

Closest I can find in the original thread:

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Originally Posted by Phil Galfond

Hey, guys! Some updates / fact-checking / clarification:
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The 3:1 offer to training site pros is an open challenge - if I'm happy with the stakes they're willing to play (and don't have any weird suspicions or something), I won't turn any of them down. ...

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The thread title is misleading. The "everyone" challenge is "reach out to me with a proposal." I am not guaranteeing that I accept any and every proposal, any game, any stakes sent my way and keep playing challenge after challenge forever. I'll try to play as many as I can while out of the US, and there will certainly be some extremely tough players involved. There's essentially no chance I get through 10 matches.

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I'm not planning to spend millions on these challenges, but it's certainly a possibility. I'll be playing some people I otherwise wouldn't have at these stakes - yes, this is marketing for RIO Poker - but I don't think I'm going to be -$2m+ in EV. Obviously I could be wrong.

...

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05-28-2020 , 08:36 AM

#390

rickroll

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Originally Posted by Eponymous

In his original blog post on the challenge, he listed those not eligible including sauce because they were part of his team:

He later opened it up to non-coaches because he wasn’t getting enough takers.

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven

Closest I can find in the original thread:

thanks for digging it up guys

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05-28-2020 , 10:30 AM

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TRUSTtheDRAWCESS

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Phil I'd like to do a one hand challenge.

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05-28-2020 , 11:20 AM

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Eponymous

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Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl

Phil I'd like to do a one hand challenge.

I understand how lonely it gets during self-isolation, but why are you telling Phil about it?

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05-28-2020 , 11:39 AM

#393

Slugant

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maybe can he can take on monker hu

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05-28-2020 , 12:03 PM

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LeavingLasVegas

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Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl

Phil I'd like to do a one hand challenge.

I usually use two hands, fwiw.

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05-28-2020 , 12:20 PM

#395

shynepo3

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Originally Posted by Eponymous

I understand how lonely it gets during self-isolation, but why are you telling Phil about it?

lol awesome

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05-28-2020 , 12:22 PM

#396

JohnFR

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Originally Posted by Eponymous

I understand how lonely it gets during self-isolation, but why are you telling Phil about it?

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Originally Posted by LeavingLasVegas

I usually use two hands, fwiw.

I lol'led

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