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Old 10-29-2011, 12:49 AM   #376
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Re: FTP Spanish players contacted by Group Bernard Tapie partner by phone

There was a trade that just went off at .22. I've said it before and I will say it again, i would be absolutely thrilled with .8. I don't think some people realize what a long-shot deal this is. This is not Tapie's fault. A little bit of compromise seems more than reasonable, imo.

Oh, and inb4 "what about the progress toward my mid-year bonus."
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:18 AM   #377
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There was a trade that just went off at .22. I've said it before and I will say it again, i would be absolutely thrilled with .8. I don't think some people realize what a long-shot deal this is. This is not Tapie's fault. A little bit of compromise seems more than reasonable, imo.

Oh, and inb4 "what about the progress toward my mid-year bonus."
Um...the owners of this company got paid 440m over the last 4 years. So **** that.
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:27 AM   #378
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Um...the owners of this company got paid 90m and stole 350m over the last 4 years. So **** that.

respectfully fixed your post...
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:34 AM   #379
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There was a trade that just went off at .22.
Do you have more info like 1) When 2) where 3) size of the trade 4) how many buyers/sellers in this "market"?

Assuming this isn't a level, I can only see someone being happy selling a $10k balance for $2.2k if they were completely oblivious to Tapie and/or thought they were never getting their money back.

Problem with $FT is that it's over the counter and it's extremely illiquid, so you're going to get huge spreads. If we had an exchange of at least 1000 participants (players + random outside speculators), imo bid/ask would be roughly at 0.45/0.65 right now. But we'll never know
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:42 AM   #380
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respectfully fixed your post...
Nah I just used the wrong word. All of that belongs to the players. The extra 90m can go to pay the economic damages they caused. No freerolls. Also won't mind seeing everyone that hand a role in management spend the rest of their lives in jail. So basically I'd be happy to get 80%. Not nearly happy enough not to push to see these fine people driven into complete destitution.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:09 AM   #381
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Is it possible that these calls aren't being made strictly on behalf of GBT, but rather on behalf of someone Tapie has lined up as a potential investor, trying to get the lay of the land?
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:14 AM   #382
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Is it possible that these calls aren't being made strictly on behalf of GBT, but rather on behalf of someone Tapie has lined up as a potential investor, trying to get the lay of the land?
+1

Can anyone who is in the know say anything about how legitimate or not this survey is and who is actually backing it?
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:15 AM   #383
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fine.

The vast majority of people would take .8 instantly or dont realize what their ftp monies' worth


you're right.

they havent called any canadiens either yet afaik.
Lets assume those options would be right, ofcourse you would take .8 right now, but that option would only be available when Tapie actually closed the deal, and at this point fulltilt $ would rise ridic in value, so the 0.8 might not be worth it anymore
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:15 AM   #384
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How many different players have received phone calls?
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:04 AM   #385
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You can just wait a year and take everything off. Just pretend Tapie didnt buy it. It's a non issue. How can 100% in a year be worse then 30% in 5 years when doj or whoever goes through everything, if even then? Please explain to me, maybe im blinded.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:10 AM   #386
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You can just wait a year and take everything off. Just pretend Tapie didnt buy it. It's a non issue. How can 100% in a year be worse then 30% in 5 years when doj or whoever goes through everything, if even then? Please explain to me, maybe im blinded.
Where will 350m come from after a year? That's the approx pre-BF ROW rake per annum.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:18 AM   #387
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If you wont play, not from you, I know that.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:26 AM   #388
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Is it possible that these calls aren't being made strictly on behalf of GBT, but rather on behalf of someone Tapie has lined up as a potential investor, trying to get the lay of the land?
it has been proved that tapie has already been fireing people from dublin office...so no, he has already taken controle of the company.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:34 AM   #389
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I know one thing...if they are going to propose instant withdrawal with a fee as an option...they should NOT use the word "penalty" to refer to it.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:38 AM   #390
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it has been proved that tapie has already been fireing people from dublin office...so no, he has already taken controle of the company.
The company has been downsizing which after 6 months is about time. Tapie is not involved because he doesn t own it yet
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:57 AM   #391
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I know one thing...if they are going to propose instant withdrawal with a fee as an option...they should NOT use the word "penalty" to refer to it.
you must not have a lot of money on there if your reading comprehension is that terrible.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:20 AM   #392
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Has anyone got a number on the penalty % for withdrawl option? 10% 25% more? Or have they not given likely % yet in the survey calls? If no USA players get calls, that might mean only ROW will be dealt with by the new FTP and that the DOJ and the "usual suspects" assets might be the method for recovery there. Just musing of course.
I don't think US players will get calls because they're trying to determine if there's going to be a mass exodus, and whether these high volume regulars will stay on there. sure, a lot of non-americans stayed on after black friday, but there's been a lot of damage since then.

they could try converting some of the balance to bonus money to be worked off to keep the games going. many would still understandably take their money and run.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:22 AM   #393
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Re: FTP Spanish players contacted by Group Bernard Tapie partner by phone

Its funny the selling prices for ftp money. I was talking to justin bonomo to buy my 13k for basically half, two weeks after the loss of the license and it didn't go through. If I had to guess you would get .3 on the dollar right now if you are lucky.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:40 AM   #394
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The company has been downsizing which after 6 months is about time. Tapie is not involved because he doesn t own it yet
one of ex ftp employe who got fired lately said otherwise.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:58 AM   #395
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Re: FTP Spanish players contacted by Group Bernard Tapie partner by phone

[QUOTE=Kirbynator;29532667]fine.

The vast majority of people would take .8 instantly or dont realize what their ftp monies' worth


you're right.

they havent called any canadiens either yet afaik.[/QUOTE]

I have seen posts from about 4 canadians that have been called and heard from a few others--maybe they are all lying trolls
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:23 AM   #396
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Re: FTP Spanish players contacted by Group Bernard Tapie partner by phone

Everyone who thinks that the option to swap your account balance for the right to buy shares at the offer price in an IPO sucks should really think twice. An IPO in a sophisticated marketplace would gurantee transparency & close to fair pricing due to due diligence and publication issues. That plus the fact that IPO stocks are (on average) heavily underpriced actually makes that option my preferred one and might even lead to a surplus.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:37 AM   #397
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Do you have more info like 1) When 2) where 3) size of the trade 4) how many buyers/sellers in this "market"?

Assuming this isn't a level, I can only see someone being happy selling a $10k balance for $2.2k if they were completely oblivious to Tapie and/or thought they were never getting their money back.

Problem with $FT is that it's over the counter and it's extremely illiquid, so you're going to get huge spreads. If we had an exchange of at least 1000 participants (players + random outside speculators), imo bid/ask would be roughly at 0.45/0.65 right now. But we'll never know
Read the hsnl xfer thread
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:53 AM   #398
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Everyone who thinks that the option to swap your account balance for the right to buy shares at the offer price in an IPO sucks should really think twice. An IPO in a sophisticated marketplace would gurantee transparency & close to fair pricing due to due diligence and publication issues. That plus the fact that IPO stocks are (on average) heavily underpriced actually makes that option my preferred one and might even lead to a surplus.
I agree ! not that I have a huge stack on there but since I figured less than 50% chance of getting anything back if they give me the option I will take 50% in stock and 50% in cash any day of the week.
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:02 PM   #399
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fine.

The vast majority of people would take .8 instantly or dont realize what their ftp monies' worth


you're right.

they havent called any canadiens either yet afaik.[/QUOTE]

I have seen posts from about 4 canadians that have been called and heard from a few others--maybe they are all lying trolls
They called me and I am canadian
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:08 PM   #400
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They called me and I am canadian
Can you tell me how they introduce themselves on the phone?
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