Jeff was warned that this place is full of trolls, so we shouldn't worry about him being unpleasantly surprised, right?

Already done, but if you click the report to a moderator button, it will happen more quickly. (It's under the avatar.)

If nothing else, how about offering stock for the non-Americans who have balances trapped there? I got my money out personally after black friday, but some of my australian friends have five figures or more trapped and would happily buy stock in full tilt with the money if it means tilt is up and running again vs their money sits there worthless. Opt in program obviously, but how about asking players if they'll invest, then only going ahead if they get enough in pledges to get the site up and running again?

And again if it becomes a majority player owned site then that does a lot to restore confidence in the brand, especially if the new stockholders (say anyone with five figures plus invested) get a vote in how the company is run?

Just an idea.

Sigh, if that is supposed to be an apology, it falls short sir.

You can see how you shot you mouth off to me in post 553, which I already quoted to you.

Regardless, I cited you the legal basis on which PG was dismissed, which is exactly the way it was recorded in court. There needed to be no reason given under Rule 41(a)(1)(A)(i) of Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

Furthermore, afaik, the class action complaint that you refer to has not been certified as yet, so you are not a party to it at this stage. TT et al have no obligation to discuss any of their strategy with you or anyone else tbh. However, you may want to reconsider opting out, since there always was, and still is, the chance that that action may be the ONLY way, you will see a dime of your money.

How is it possible that a company facing bankruptcy doesnt convert these offerings into shares. It wont cost a thing because all the shares combined will propably be sold for $1 max so that is an instant reduction of the dept.

Ok some players want shares in the new company but that is also almost for free because the company can issue massive loads of new shares any time they want.
Mindbogling that they can rip us off but when we ourselves offered to rip us off they are silent.

Yes, and I believe last week's statement from management specifically contained an apology.

Is there a link to this statement/apology? I'm not questioning you, I just haven't seen it; I'm sure if it has been reported someone will be able to post a direct link or a link to a post quoting or citing it.

FTPDoug was pretty much always Shyam Markus for most of the last few number of years (same guy as TilterMarkus on the FTP forums).

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/0...tors-10893.htm

Mr. Ifrah now September 15 is coming ... there is some possibility that fulltilt can also re-open before that date? or it can be said that it takes a long time to come?

Mr Ifrah,

Does FTP even know how much they owe to each individual players? There have been rumors that because of transfers that are in limbo and the "back log" that FTP's record books are not accurate.

- Thanks for taking the time to address us

I asked this earlier but I'm sure it's easy to miss some of the questions that have been asked. I'm just giving you another chance to see it...

When someone gives apology for criminal acts , no one believes or forgives!

If you say we were a bunch of arrogant dumbasses that got caught with our pants down, and you are sorry, then most of us can personally relate. This is what I always thought FTP management was guilty of anyway! Still the damage to folks is massive. Thanks for trying to shed a little light, but FTPs statement must say something more!

Mr. Ifrah,

I'd like to restate a question that was asked before without answer: what percentage of player funds are currently available?

Also, are the remainder of these player funds currently being used to pay salaries, fees, etc?

If you could find out the answer to this I would appreciate it.

Ah yes, thank you, I actually did see that. I just forgot it contained the usual apology, mostly because I don't think their apology is worth anything at this point unless it's backed up by some significant changes in their communication and customer service policies going forward.

Again, that's not a dig at Mr. Ifrah, just my own complete disregard for the veracity of any apology from FTP. Words from them mean less than nothing at this point. Start fixing things, or quit apologizing, since you can't seriously expect anyone to believe it, IMO.

Jeff,

A couple of questions. Thanks for reading them, and I understand if you're busy with more pertinent questions to get to them. I'm not a legal mind.

First, regarding FTP's silence, I understand that they were bound by a confidentiality agreement in the exclusive negotiations. But did this really demand utter silence? Speaking for myself, I would have understood that the company was unable to go into details on their negotiations. However, it seems odd to me that a serious investor would demand total silence when that silence did daily damage to the brand. Was FTP really not allowed to say a simple "Hey guys, we're working for you" or did someone decide that no communication at all was a better strategy than minimal communication? In my opinion, FTP's silence was just as damaging as their mismanagement.

Second, is there any way a deal could be worked out with the AGCC that would allow FTP to reopen without being able to match player funds dollar for dollar? If FTP could come up with a reasonable plan and timeframe to pay back their players based on money generated through their games, to be monitored closely by AGCC, wouldn't that give players a much better chance of getting paid long-term? And if AGCC's main concern is players be paid, isn't it short-sighted of them to demand conditions that seem more likely to bankrupt FTP and have no one get paid?

Thanks again. I hope my questions are clear.

This.

We appreciate what Mr. Ifrah is doing but reality is that nothing matters unless Full Tilt pays us our money back.

Jeff, is Fulltilt.fr in the same boat ? If potential investissors acquire FT and their US and non-US player base, will they automatically acquire FT.fr too ?

Will the French players get refund by fulltilt if ARJEL doesn't give back her agreement ?

Ok thanks for reminding me of that. I just havent seen them say anything about mismanaging player funds or lying that player money was accounted for.

How do we know this is the real Ifrah, couldn't anyone just make an account and issue the same vague statements? I think some kid is giving you guys the run around. A real attorney would use the name Jeffrey, and would not be posting his phone number, nor would he have the time to bother with trolls and useless message forum chatter. IMO.

I believe, NoahSD confirmed it.

these seem like some really good questions that was posted late last night. i'm guessing you missed them. i'm sure all of us would like to know the answer to these. thanks

Hello Mr ifrah and thx for your time!

So, what did they say? (it was about owners putting their own money to pay us back)

Noah, wouldnt it make sense for someone to compile a list of questions and those questions that have been answered (FAQ) so the same questions dont get repeated.

Before you ask I have no interest in doing it as personally I havnt seen any value in this Q&A so far.

Jeff,

I hope you take the time to read this because I think it's important that you understand what's going on here. People keep asking because you aren't really answering the question. You keep reiterating that you're here to answer questions, etc., but that's not what people are asking. People are asking about your MOTIVE for doing all of this. You said you aren't billing FTP for this, etc., so people are wondering why you're even bothering. This is what they want you to address.

You probably take it for granted that we should realize that what you're doing is just good business on your part (which is how I see it), but you need to understand how suspicious and jaded people have become around here (rightfully or not) towards anything coming from FTP or anyone associated with them. Without going into details, anything you say or do is going to be viewed under a microscope, people will read between the lines on EVERYTHING you say, and anything you don't explicitly state will be seen as "A HAH! We're getting the runaround again guys! FML it's over boys, GG FT blah blah blah". (p.s. that was a bunch of 2p2 poker slang, don't worry about understanding it).

You may not realize it, but some people are convinced that what you're doing must be part of some kind of plot to scam/lie/cheat us all out of our money, etc. After all of the silence and stuff we heard from FTP early on that never came to fruition (including YOU releasing a statement that a deal would be done "soon" back several months ago which obviously didn't happen), It's somewhat understandable.

Really, all you need to do is give us your motive for doing all of this that isn't "FTP is using me to leak b.s. to all of you to keep you all at bay while Howard and Ray continue to embezzle as much money as they can out of your funds", and you won't have to answer this question anymore. Like I said, it seems obvious to me that what you're doing is beneficial for all parties involved, both the players and FTP (and therefore your clients), but people just want to hear that out of your mouth. They may not believe you, but the fact that you keep misunderstanding the question is just fueling the fire.

BTW, I don't really have any questions for you that haven't already been asked, but I needed to clear this up. And thanks for answering the questions you have been able to thusfar.

now that ftp isn't serving US, is it possible we will see a full tilt poker casino and or sportsbook, if and hopefully when ftp re-opens :-p!?!?