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05-28-2012 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialOne
can someone inform me the date of the wsop main event?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wsop+main+event
05-28-2012 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkElf
I'm so confused:
  1. DF has said that she is not under a NDA with the DOJ. But, hypothetically, what if she had signed a NDA, and part of the NDA was to not disclose that she had signed the NDA? Under those circumstances, would she not be required to say that she is not under an NDA with the DOJ?
  2. Sgt RT has said not to believe 95% of what is written in this thread. But if I believe that statement to be true, I probably should not believe it to be true. Hence, I don't know what to believe.
I won't speak to DF, because I don't know her or her status, but I can report that there is no restriction on disclosing the fact you are under an NDA, if you are under one. It's not like an NDA is classified military secret information.
05-28-2012 , 02:59 PM
Man you never know what turn this thread is going to take. DF signs with PS..... awesome.
05-28-2012 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
the announcement will be 'amazing' and come on "a different special day' at the WSOP
Daniel Negreanu jumping a motorcycle over the Rio with a banner saying 'Poker Stars buys Full Tilt poker - you get yo money' while simultaneously Lederer, Ferguson, and Bitar are shot out of confetti cannons into the desert?
05-28-2012 , 03:03 PM
lolz nice imagination, like it
05-28-2012 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
Sorry, the site has been filtered so I can't post a link...

cliffs:

they admit they got the story 'a little wrong'

the announcement will be 'amazing' and come on "a different special day' at the WSOP

Where is the link to this source? Or original post? Or is this just sarcasm I'm missing?
05-28-2012 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
One of the courts ruled that the UIGEA doesn't apply to internet poker, IIRC.

Someone who is more familiar with that court ruling should chime in, my memory on this is a little vague.
Source? It is my understanding that the DOJ ruled the Wire Act didnt apply to poker. Not aware of a ruling on UIGEA
05-28-2012 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Where is the link to this source? Or original post? Or is this just sarcasm I'm missing?
google "PokerStars Announcement at WSOP (amended)"
05-28-2012 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
Source? It is my understanding that the DOJ ruled the Wire Act didnt apply to poker. Not aware of a ruling on UIGEA
That's probably what I was thinking of then, my bad.
05-28-2012 , 03:10 PM
DF, if you had to guess a time frame, when do you think we will hear something by? Thanks for your hard work.
05-28-2012 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
google "PokerStars Announcement at WSOP (amended)"
Thanks, Just hope it's reliable this time.... I remember someone telling me that igaming was the chinamaniac of a website.
05-28-2012 , 03:16 PM
mmmm or 4th of July, independence day, the day of freedom? where your poker liberties are reinstated? oh yeah
05-28-2012 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by chipmaagnet
mmmm or 4th of July, independence day, the day of freedom? where your poker liberties are reinstated? oh yeah
That is just sexy!
05-28-2012 , 03:21 PM
i am loving it in advance
05-28-2012 , 03:23 PM
Do you people fall for every rumor you hear? Now the speculation will be every day with any importance for the rest of the wsop.
05-28-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Man you never know what turn this thread is going to take. DF signs with PS..... awesome.
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Thanks, Just hope it's reliable this time.... I remember someone telling me that igaming was the chinamaniac of a website.
I have no idea when you are being sarcastic...

It's been proven over and over again unreliable, they post what people want to hear to get traffic, which is why 2+2 has now filtered links to their site, I just posted the cliffs of their retraction because it made me laugh.

BTW, DF didn't really get hired by PS either.
05-28-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by athletec
Haven't been following the thread, so please excuse...

Am I correct that the only issue with PS is whether they'll buy FTP and return players' money?

Regardless of what deal PS cuts with DoJ, the UIGEA still exists. DoJ can't overturn that. Only Congress can. So DoJ can't give PS the green light to come back to the US, even if DoJ wants to. Correct?
The DOJ has no means to guarantee PS access to the US in the future. They do, however, have the means to keep PS from operating in the US, potentially.

Actually there are criminal charges and a civil case against PS by the DOJ. Buying FTP is a tertiary negotiation and certainly the least important to both parties.

The speculative hope is things can all be tied together and wrapped up but that is not a given. I don't see a FTP sale to stars without the criminal and civil issues essentially being resolved first.
05-28-2012 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
Someone with a confirmed source within PokerStars is now reporting:

Diamond Flush Hired by PS

LOL!
Ohh
Emmm
Geeeeee

This thread just keeps on giving!
05-28-2012 , 03:30 PM
sorry if i said something inappropriate
05-28-2012 , 03:34 PM
Can we put a limit to linking to china posts on other sites? The guy is clearly mentally unbalanced and deficient. Chinamaniac is an idiot. He is not in this thread any longer for a reason. People speaking for him or linking to his stupid posts elsewhere don't serve any worthwhile purpose. At least create a spinoff containment thread for him.

I am being completely serious and sincere when I say there is something off with him. It is not hurled as an insult but as an observable truth. I just think it is time we stop pointing at, alluding to or bringing up anything this clearly dysfunctional young man says and does.
05-28-2012 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
I have no idea when you are being sarcastic...

It's been proven over and over again unreliable, they post what people want to hear to get traffic, which is why 2+2 has now filtered links to their site, I just posted the cliffs of their retraction because it made me laugh.

BTW, DF didn't really get hired by PS either.
Oh she didn't really get hired by PS, but I thought CM was the most reliable person on the net? Enough sarcasm for ya?
05-28-2012 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondogarage
I won't speak to DF, because I don't know her or her status, but I can report that there is no restriction on disclosing the fact you are under an NDA, if you are under one. It's not like an NDA is classified military secret information.
As an attorney, I have participated in negotiations that had NDA's or CA's that included a prohibition on disclosing their existence.
05-28-2012 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyLloyd
Meh, there are only so many hours in the day. I'd imagine everyone working for Pokerstars are suitably occupied 40+ hours a week. I'd also suggest that, while the staff in Dublin can make magic happen, they could probably use a lot of help if the site was to go back up tomorrow. Maybe not to get it up, but to keep it up and deal with the deluge of CS traffic. I understand the urge in here to play down the significance but, from the outside looking in, it seems like a pretty important event.

Very much hope I'm way off and the staff get some good news soon though. Must be awful for those let go again.
You have no idea of stars current staffing situation. They could be over staffed and adding new staff daily.

There is no chance the site is going up tomorrow. Listen stars is a fully functioning poker site that is bigger than FTP was. I will simply again reiterate from personal experience those jobs bring terminated are evidence of nothing. There may never be another pocket king hiring ever and FTP could come back.

People expecting FTP to be rolled out next week are going to be sorely disappointed. Stars would have to do very little external work in advance. Again most positions would be duplicated and there is no evidence stars would want any former FTP employees they have not already hired.

Again the contract terminations mean absolutely nothing one way or another.
05-28-2012 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Man you never know what turn this thread is going to take. DF signs with PS..... awesome.
I see you're still taking everything chinamaniac says, as absolute proven fact.
05-28-2012 , 03:52 PM
with this much speculation you guys would make a killing on forex -but yeah let's stick with poker

      
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