"The thing is: poker doesn’t work that way. After being around poker for a very long time, I can tell you that it’s all shadows, blue pills, and unpealed layers. You always think you understand, but you don’t. "

No, the things is: life doesn’t work that way. After being around {insert pretty much any business or group of people} for a very long time, I can tell you that it’s all shadows, blue pills, and unpealed layers. You always think you understand, but you don’t.

Seriously, that's a lot of words he typed up to say nothing.

The reason Brandon Adams calls Pokerstars a ruthless rake gathering machine is because when he plays on FullTilt he gets 100% of his rake back and if he were to play on Pokerstars they would rake his pots and he wouldn't be getting those fat checks at the end of the month. He's just another guy that only sees the picture from his selfish perspective and not from the masses perspective.

BA is a friend of mine and i trust what he says, he's told me the same things and he wouldn't lie to me

He said it clear as day in his post. It's going to "shadows, blue pills, and unpealed layers." Does he really have to dumb that down for everyone to understand?? You must be a Yale man.

Sampling...

FYP, Mouzone.

Did he serve the kool-aid extra cold in person?

I'm always shocked that there hasn't been any violence in regards to money stolen from UB or from various other online scams. I'm wondering if this will be the case if FTP doesn't pay out.

So, Pokerstars are like the Nazis, ruthlessly efficient, on their way to world domination, meanwhile the sites that care about well-being of the poker community like FTP and Cereus are desperaretly stuggling for their own existence.

i'm glad BA is so confident maybe he would like to buy my full tilt balance for 90c/$1.00 and make some EZ money

A "ruthless rake-gathering machine." As if a poker site would be designed for any other purpose. That's like accusing a business of ruthlessly profiting from the sale of their goods.

Awesome.

Sigh, this guy gets on my nerves.

"[Pokerstars is] the most efficient and ruthless rake gathering machine ever created. [...] but Full Tilt is an organization run by poker players, with sympathy for the wellbeing of the overall poker community."


I dont see how Full Tilt is any less ruthless in their rake gathering prowess, and I also don't see how Full Tilt has any more sympathy for the wellbeing of the poker economy than Pokerstars.

With that said, the wellbeing and sustainability of the poker economy should be the #1 focus by any Poker operation. Online operaters have the option of making it exponentially more sustainable by lowering the rake at small/micro-stakes, but to date, not a single online site has done this.

All poker sites take a rake -- that is understood and does not make them thieves. Sites that take a rake, however, but do not pay out funds when requested by players to do so for whatever reason are thieves, plain and simple.

Probably not the best time to have a pop a rival pokersite

Get your own house in order FFS

Is PokerStars' rake not lower -- across all games, levels and tourneys -- than that charged by FullTilt, UB and Party Poker? If I am incorrect, my apologies; but, if I am not is this not just another argument for BA to just shut up. These dumb smart-guys are making me puke.

Here is what baffles me, I am sure Harvard will disown BA...

''I can admire that, I guess, but my heart is with Full Tilt. They’ve made amateurish mistakes at times, but Full Tilt is an organization run by poker players, with sympathy for the wellbeing of the overall poker community.''

Amateurish mistakes? These mistakes are going to cost FTP almost everything. LOL @ amateurish, no SIR these are PROFESSIONAL mistakes nothing amateur about it!

The total destruction and demise of a multi-billion dollar company is far from a "little" mistake... I don't need to go to no "stink'n" Harvard to understand this concept.

FFS even GOOGLE brought in a well polished CEO to run the company, instead of having a couple of programmers who started the company run the show... How did that work out for GOOGLE?

Good Idea to let poker players run a billion dollar business, they ran it into the ground...

All FTP related stuff aside, I liked this and I'm def gonna look up the author he quoted. I've not heard of him but this was really cool and spot on to some thoughts and feelings I've had. I think pre-boom players will get something out of this and boom players wont, and probably rightfully so.

The main difference is I think U.S. regulation and full on legalization will come at some point not too far in the future and if so it's going to bring this game to heights its not seen yet. So with that in mind, I think it's a bit much to say the game is going "back to the wolves".

I don't know BA personally but I've always pictured him as someone that would be objective. I hope that's the case here.

I liked the post

So good.....

I think he went to Tulane as an undergrad.

Just some overachiever on ritalin/crank...nothing to see here. Galfond and Seidel are both like 3 standard deviations beyond this lamo...and speaking of delusions, didnt he try to apply that great intellect to trading....how did that go again?

Lolscalpedaments.

He's clearly not objective and the funny thing is he believes his own hype.

It's funny he at one time says poker players are shadey so the world without major business behind it will be violent and shadey but then at the same time says full tilt is the nuts because it's run by poker players.

Maybe stars was able to pay players back immediately because it's run by businessmen and not poker players and wouldn't credit deposits it did not receive.

Also his ills of the poker world turning violent doesn't really apply to casino gambling as much as backroom gambling

No. Their earnings = rake - expenses. Cash flow = Deposits - Cashouts - expenses.

Well, you heard Brandon:

"Full Tilt is an organization run by poker players, with sympathy for the wellbeing of the overall poker community."

Full Tilt is run for the wellbeing of the poker community. And not for being a ruthless rake-gathering machine like those evil ****s at PokerStars.