Wow that buzzy guy blew it for Jacobs team. If he got it right they would have been in the finals , still made it to the losers bracket but that buzzy guy acts so pompous you gotta back it up !

Alex Jacob goes on 2+2 by his own name. I remember him making this really good post in a very interesting HS thread.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...mat-you-losers

that post was actually quite bad in retrospect specifically the idea that prahlad was printing money because people responded to his overbets in that manner. (if a mod feels strongly about no strat in nvg I guess delete but these are both dead threads and there's near tons of overlap between people reading so who cares?)

Shoving 3x the pot to get called by 25% of the opponents range seems to be making more than betting 1x the pot and getting called by 50% until you account for the fact that QJ comprises a lot more of the former than the latter and you additionally lose out when the other guy would have bluff raised a pot sized bet (or I guess had a brain fart and value raised worse). As you get into larger bet sizes it becomes more obvious as to why, since if prahlad shoved for 10x the pot the optimal call range would be comprised entirely of QJ which obviously makes it a terrible bet.

As is QJ probably represents somewhere around 10-15% of your range even if you start working from the perspective of prahlad where he has exactly QJ and therefor your combos are limited to 9. This assumes you call the pot turn bet with KJ+, KT, AA, and calls about half the time with sets and some small number of weaker hands - which is I think somewhere in the right ballpark given what your flop bet range should look like.

That means your optimal call range on the river for a 3x pot bet size has him getting paid off by worse only 10-15% whereas against a pot size bet he gets paid by worse 35-40%. Getting paid 3x pot 10-15% of the time is now actually about the same as getting paid 1x pot 35-40%, and that's before you factor in the times you get raised when you bet pot. So no, prahlad is not getting rich by people calling his overbets optimally on the river and even if he is never bluffing what he gains in those spots he loses out on by getting called much less frequently by worse hands.

What could be argued is that AK falls below the 75th percentile of hands (or at least would only be fractionally above it) but that's kind of besides the point he was making.

Meh, it was poker in 2005 and he was thinking about exploit v GTO and where your hand falls in your range. So he drew the wrong conclusion? Still clearly ahead of his time and incredibly smart.

To bring it back to jeopardy, pretty lame how much his team is letting him down*. He's been (by far) the best player thus far and it would be a blast to see him battle Ken/Brad for it all. Fortunately everyone missed final jeopardy tonight so not an impossible hole to dig out of, still gotta be frustrating for him.

*Actually pretty insane, Buzzy completely punted double jeopardy in part 1 of the SF and they wagered 0 in final jeopardy, then despite that Alex was still able to set them up where the ball was in their court in part 2 FJ, get it right and they're in the finals, Buzzy gets it wrong. Tonight Alex gets them off to a decent lead, Buzzy punts DJ again, and they risk it all in FJ and get it wrong. He's gonna have to go nuts in DJ tomorrow night.

He went nuts alright

Wow by far and away best player of the whole tournament and then he bets it all on a daily double and answers incorrectly during possibly the most crucial moment of the whole tournament so far. Still pretty sure if it were 1v1 and not teams he would win it all and therefore is the best jeopardy player in the world

i think ken jennings showed this week he is the best ever........ but i can't think of anyone i'd put with alex for 2nd. maybe the jackson kid but alex beat him really badly in TOC.

Alex definitely bet way too much. and a bad category i think. a music/movie category like that is essentially open-ended. not something you can cram study for (which i think alex and others did before coming on first show... much better if it'd been a less open-ended category.

also, i think he could have achieved alot betting $7500, or half his money.

hey, i got FJ. and none of the 3 did.

Jennings stands out, towers really. Retire him as competitor and have him replace Trebek...whenever

So you're saying going all in might not have been the optimal bet size?


If it was a typical jeopardy game where winning gives you an auto invite to the next one it seems like an absolutely horrible wager for any realistic level of confidence he may have had in his knowledge of the category.

It seems like progressing is based on cumulative scores between two days though and his team was behind by 8k and 5k which makes it a lot different. At the pace they were on he likely wouldn't be able to guarantee a win in final jeopardy. Him going for the full double suggests some combination of him not thinking his edge is that big vs the others and thinking his knowledge of that subject is better than the average final jeopardy q.

Kind of surprised he didn't give it more thought though. If the discrepancy was a bit bigger (20k vs 5k) i think it's almost mandatory to play it conservatively. Because at that point, with only 10k up for grabs on the board (and no doubles left) the likelihood of them being shut out in final jeopardy gets pretty high.

Everything becomes quite bad at some time. My Commodore 64. Your mum. Etc.

And if someone posts about how hot my 70 year old mother is you can feel free to question their taste.

Rutters team takes it down, hes never lost a TOC

Sad news about Trebek though in characteristic form he makes light of it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-...reatic-cancer/

Your current reigning and 3 day champion is James Holzhauer, a professional sports gambler from Las Vegas. He won a cool $50,000 yesterday, holding off the John Smoltz lookalike who is somehow a professional podcast host. He was very aggressive in the first round, going for the $1000 clues first and working his way up. Then like a true gambler, went all in after hunting for the daily double in double jeopardy and fortunately for him, he got an easy question and got it right. After that huge double, the podcast guy had no shot of catching him. His 3 day winnings total $133,451. I look forward to watching him some more and see how much he can spin it up. Glgl

Wonder if he reads 2+2.

I also learned that most college kids have almost 0 knowledge about baseball.

He claims to be a sports bettor and had no idea on the question about moving the extra point kick back to the 15 yd line. He is a good Jeopardy player though

I saw somewhere that Ben Yu said he is his sports betting partner so don't think that is in question. Some of the best sports betters don't even watch the games, all in the data.

I think one of the best DFS players, can't remember his name, doesn't even like sports.

I have watched his shows, certainly good at the trivia but he's a firm believer in the large wagers on Daily Doubles (Alex has said the same thing, again I'm sure all in the data to support large wagers bettering your chance at winning).

He even motions like he's shoving chips in the middle when saying he's going for a true daily double.

Such a sick session:

https://deadspin.com/jeopardy-contes...cor-1833928180

Made a post 2 months ago about seeing the sports bettor at a taping of Jeopardy while on a visit to see my brother and his family in LA - did it get deleted for containing info about a future Jeopardy episode? In 3,228 posts, that may have been my first deleted post??

Just wanted to mention it because he's got those big bets that can make Jeopardy so extra fun to watch And i didn't even mention the run he was on - but it looks like the show is already starting to compare him to Ken Jennings ... wonder how long he lasts?

Dude wins $110,914...

One of the articles mentioned he was also part of a poker training site, anyone know which one?

He is "crockpot" on 2p2, used to post in the sports betting forum all the time