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Former poker standout Alex Jacob 6-time winner on Jeopardy Former poker standout Alex Jacob 6-time winner on Jeopardy

04-14-2015 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
Karate Mike the illest! "That's a professional laydown"
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04-14-2015 , 10:18 PM
This Twitter account is rather entertaining, too... definitely had some past participants reach out to him: https://twitter.com/whoisalexjacob
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04-14-2015 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ahh_snap
As someone who never watches Jeopardy, this has been awesome to watch. Hopefully he continues to do well.
+1

I like how he wagers it all for daily doubles.
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04-14-2015 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
It's an absolute slaughtering.
These other 2 dummies should be embarrassed
It's not as easy as it looks. The rarely spoken about dark secret of Jeopardy is that timing the buzzer correctly is a skill that is far too important for a show like this. There are a lot of questions that all three players can answer, in which case the one most skilled with the buzzer gets it. Eventually those who always get beaten on the buzzer then get frustrated and start trying to buzz in every time, and then trying to think of an answer, which often just digs you deeper into the hole.
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04-15-2015 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by domda
Very surprised by him betting zero on Final Jeopardy on both days so far , he had the game won and could have earned bonus money but he decided to play it safe . He is obviously very smart and is not afraid to take big risks so I'm surprised by his caution here.
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Originally Posted by domda
It turned out to be a fairly tough question but he may have known the answer but since he bet nothing there was no reason to come up with anything .

My point is though he is on the show to win free money so why did he nit it up when he has the game won and not try to win a little extra , It seems an overly cautious approach from someone who boldly went all in on the daily double both days so far.
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Originally Posted by RAHZero
Haven't watched either episode yet, but if you have a runaway, then Final Jeopardy strategy is straightforward: Bet the maximum amount that still guarantees a victory if you believe you have a better than 50% chance of getting the clue correct, and wager $0 if not.

If he wagered $0, then it's because he believed he had a less than 50% chance of getting the clue correct given the Final Jeopardy category.
Yes. In a lock situation the proper wager is either $0 or the max that still guarantees victory. Hardly any contestant understands this, but I would expect poker players to.


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Originally Posted by domda
He'd give Ken Jennings a good run , both are very bright , quick on the buzzer and rarely answer incorrectly . Jennings used a much safer Daily Double wagering strategy where if he had a good lead he'd bet enough to put the game almost out of sight but if he missed he'd still be in fairly good shape and knew his game was good enough to overcome most opponents , Alex in the two games we've seen has simply shoved all in on the Daily Double and destroyed the opponents then and there, however if he were to miss one time doing this he'll be in serious trouble. He is fun to watch and i hope his run continues for a long time , but he plays with such an aggro approach he's seems bound to self destruct before too long.
You don't seem to understand much here. KJ is one of the top 2 Jeopardy players ever. His knowledge base and buzzer dominance is unbelievable. From what we've seen so far, while Alex has played awesomely, KJ would still destroy him.

He doesn't play with an aggro approach, he plays the closest to GTO of almost any contestant.

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Originally Posted by EmpireMaker2
Love watching Alex but seems like he got paired with a bunch of dolts on the first 3 epis.
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Originally Posted by Dima2000123
It's not as easy as it looks. The rarely spoken about dark secret of Jeopardy is that timing the buzzer correctly is a skill that is far too important for a show like this. There are a lot of questions that all three players can answer, in which case the one most skilled with the buzzer gets it. Eventually those who always get beaten on the buzzer then get frustrated and start trying to buzz in every time, and then trying to think of an answer, which often just digs you deeper into the hole.
This. Combined with near perfect strategy it's easy to make good players look bad.
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04-15-2015 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RAHZero
Haven't watched either episode yet, but if you have a runaway, then Final Jeopardy strategy is straightforward: Bet the maximum amount that still guarantees a victory if you believe you have a better than 50% chance of getting the clue correct, and wager $0 if not.

If he wagered $0, then it's because he believed he had a less than 50% chance of getting the clue correct given the Final Jeopardy category.
Interesting that he bet so much on final Jeopardy today after he passed the two previous shows. Maybe he liked the category -presidents - today or maybe he has been reading this thread. But I'd be surprised if he really feels he is a dog on any random category on Final Jeopardy being that he is clearly very bright and seems supremely confident.
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04-15-2015 , 12:56 AM
currency trader lol
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04-15-2015 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO



You don't seem to understand much here. KJ is one of the top 2 Jeopardy players ever. His knowledge base and buzzer dominance is unbelievable. From what we've seen so far, while Alex has played awesomely, KJ would still destroy him.

He doesn't play with an aggro approach, he plays the closest to GTO of almost any contestant.


I'm not saying I expect Alex to go on a 70 game winning streak , I'm saying that if they played heads up Ken Jennings would find him an exceptionally tough opponent and certainly would not destroy him.

As for being aggro I think his tactic of betting it all on the Daily Double when he already has a big lead is pure aggro and somewhat reckless , and I'm willing to predict it'll be his eventual downfall.
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04-15-2015 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Yes. In a lock situation the proper wager is either $0 or the max that still guarantees victory. Hardly any contestant understands this, but I would expect poker players to.
This is not true. When you're in a lock situation, you are playing with strictly your OWN money. Because of this, you have to factor in your life roll. Some of these contestants could easily have a $0 net worth before the start of the show. Let's say they're net worth just jumped from $0 to $30k, because they're going to FJ with $30k and a lock win. Let's also say they have the opportunity to bet $10k and still lock up a win. It'd be fairly reckless to bet $10k (1/3 of your net worth) on a question where your edge is ~53%. I also think it's reasonable to vary your bets based on your confidence in the category and net worth. Just making up some numbers with a small/medium sized net worth: if you have 55% confidence you can bet like $1k, if you have 65% confidence you can bet $5k, if you have 80% confidence you can bet $10k. Basically, it's reasonable to bet small with a small edge and up your bets with a large edge because of the Kelly criterion.

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04-15-2015 , 01:36 AM
Best part was when Alex claimed to be a currency trader.
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04-15-2015 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by domda
I'm not saying I expect Alex to go on a 70 game winning streak , I'm saying that if they played heads up Ken Jennings would find him an exceptionally tough opponent and certainly would not destroy him.
KJ has faced perhaps 200 opponents in his Jeopardy career, 148 of those regular contestants, the other ~50 in special tournaments meaning these were the best of the best. He destroyed all but about 10 of the 148 and all but about 5 of the other studs. So he destroyed around 90% of the best of the best of all time. So by this you're saying Alex has the talent level of someone who only comes around once every two years or so? After watching only three games?

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As for being aggro I think his tactic of betting it all on the Daily Double when he already has a big lead is pure aggro and somewhat reckless , and I'm willing to predict it'll be his eventual downfall.
You're willing to predict a nearly perfect GTO strategy will be his eventual downfall? Are you one of those types who thinks the results are perfectly reflective of the strategy? Never mind if this strategy wins him umpteenth games before his eventual loss.
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04-15-2015 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by domda
As for being aggro I think his tactic of betting it all on the Daily Double when he already has a big lead is pure aggro and somewhat reckless , and I'm willing to predict it'll be his eventual downfall.
I haven't seen any of his bets being reckless. Yes they are big bets, but hitting these DD's locks up the win so often. You are probably around 65-70% to get these DDs correct. When you miss, you still have a reasonable chance to win anways. The people that bet small to keep the lead are the people that never end up with lock wins. They often end up losing on FJ where they're like ~43% to get the final question correct. Going into FJ without a lock and missing the FJ frequently ends up with leader losing. I basically agree that yes, missing a true DD will probably be the cause of his eventual downfall. However, it's way more likely if he was betting these DDs small, he will lose a game by simply not having a lock and not knowing the FJ.

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04-15-2015 , 01:41 AM
Mary: "oh gee, I just blanked"
Trebek: "oh thats too bad. It'll cost you a thousand dollars."

xD

Last edited by burnJa; 04-15-2015 at 01:44 AM. Reason: idk why i thought that sounded so funny
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04-15-2015 , 01:44 AM
alex still playing poker?? didnt read thread
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04-15-2015 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by burnJa
Mary: "oh gee, I just blanked"
Trebek: "oh thats too bad. It'll cost you a thousand dollars."

xD
Maybe cuz it sounded like patronizing compassion.
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04-15-2015 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
alex still playing poker?? didnt read thread
Don't think so his last live tournament cash was in 2012
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=52461
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04-15-2015 , 04:32 AM
He angle shot on the first episode and didn't even do it right. He picked the 2k answer instead of going for the smaller amounts after he stalled.
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04-15-2015 , 06:19 AM
He probably does do some currency trading. Lots of poker players that don't win any more are into it.
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04-15-2015 , 08:24 AM
3 in a row and a big blow out today. I'm sure he liked the U.S. presidents category but should have bet 0 and done another shout out. It would have been a sick daily total of he did that. Anyway, around $75K isn't too bad.

I'm curious if he's just great at buzzing in or if he opponents are idiots because he is making them seem like idiots. Hopefully he get more slow buzzing old ladies as opponents and runs away with more wins!
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04-15-2015 , 10:46 AM
04-15-2015 , 11:10 AM
Is there a play at home version with a buzzer where you can practice buzzing or is it who can adapt the quickest once the show starts? Obviously the poker player is going to crush and probably has an even greater advantage if there is no way to practice at home.
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04-15-2015 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dexmier
Best part was when Alex claimed to be a currency trader.
i guess i don't get it. he is actually a currency trader - so why is that the best part and/or so funny?
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04-15-2015 , 01:04 PM
GTO or not, it seems like he will just crush for weeks
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04-15-2015 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima2000123
It's not as easy as it looks. The rarely spoken about dark secret of Jeopardy is that timing the buzzer correctly is a skill that is far too important for a show like this. There are a lot of questions that all three players can answer, in which case the one most skilled with the buzzer gets it. Eventually those who always get beaten on the buzzer then get frustrated and start trying to buzz in every time, and then trying to think of an answer, which often just digs you deeper into the hole.
Yeah, definitely.

There was an AMA-style thread from a 2+2er who appeared on the college version of Jeopardy (and apologies to that person if you're already contributing to this one). He said the questions on the college, teen and celebrity variations are so easy that the game comes down to buzzer-timing. As I recall, everyone knows the questions at about an 80 percent success rate. Thus, it's more a physical skill game.
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04-15-2015 , 01:11 PM
In case anyone is curious, Alex is climbing the all-time winners list, according to this site:
http://www.jeopardy.com/showguide/halloffame/50kplus/
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