Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Five reasons to not play on Party Poker

04-08-2018 , 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mullion
?
Hey sorry its Sunday and really busy day. But it means give a hand and see how he would play it and why. If I was an alleged bot ot using software or something and somebody asked me how I played a hand 4 days ago and why I played it I wouldn't even remember the hand. I made 4-5 different hands, different board textures, SPRs that he should be commonly using and then provided him with basic data. Again, Limitless was there for all the call and can confirm, don't know Limitless at all, not friends etc so no reason to lie.

About data etc, I've never used hand2note, nobody I know uses it, doing such population stuff on pt4 is very tough. Long time ago it was idea to do some stuff as long as sticking legally, but instead we focus more just on player development. We are very stats orientated but more for how our players play rather than others. For example if somebody wins at 22bb/100 on the button when he should be winning at a stable average of 36 or whatever then we would then break button down into all different stack sizes, see the different win rates at different stack sizes and then see which stack size he then needs to improve on and do this for his next coaching. Once you understand theory you don't need to know too much of population tendancies, population tendancies is mostly technical term for bull****. If you know somebody should open 40% on the button or you exploit them then when they open 45% you deviate, when they open 35% you deviate and you continuing deviating more aggressively the higher the % and passively the lower %, as long as you know the theory behind 40% its "easy" to adjust accordingly. It doesn't matter if we had 16m hands and see that population open 42% on the button, every hand is a different individual puzzle based on all the external factors.

I feel like I'm in court, and narcissistically, I kinda like it! But would like to stop now, I think I've answered everything thrown at me fairly, in detail and don't want to give away exactly how I do x/y/z.

Thanks and good luck at the tables.

Keep the faith
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-08-2018 , 09:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doctor877
This.

I used to play a lot on party, but after the hhs were changed anon i basically just bumhunt the highstakes and have no interest in taking close spots/battles at party because of the anon HHs and new regs constantly popping up every other day.

Also don't think that making the lobbies anon was a great idea. It just creates an environment where tables pop up, every bumhunter sits out after they realize there is no fish, and the guys starting the game get grimmed 100%. Overall don't think it drives any more action, it just makes it more annoying to find games with fish, which will make some regs quit the site because they cba deal with it. Unless the goal was to kill highstakes..
One more +1 for the anon. HH's issue.
I just feel like I'm being put to a disadvantage by the guys who are using the illegal hand trackers. Also it seems like guys are allowed to change screennames - wtf is up with that? (One reg didn't change his avatar and location so it was easy to figure out, but still. Some players are allowed screen name changes, some don't. Super unfair.)

Another thing is the too fast preflop timers. I get it recreational players like faster paced game. But at least allow automatic preflop timebank. Currently I'm timing out a lot of spots cause I don't have PartyCaption for automatic timebank.

Used to play a bunch on party. With those 2 things it's not really an attractive proposition to put in good volume.

As for anononymous lobbies + 100bb min buy-in = good IMO. It masks recreational players identities and they're not subject to seat scripting.

And btw, seat scripting is against ToS; so why the hell does party have this waiting list thing that is basically used for seat scripting?

#incoherentrant
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 12:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ezdonkey
One more +1 for the anon. HH's issue.
I just feel like I'm being put to a disadvantage by the guys who are using the illegal hand trackers. Also it seems like guys are allowed to change screennames - wtf is up with that? (One reg didn't change his avatar and location so it was easy to figure out, but still. Some players are allowed screen name changes, some don't. Super unfair.)

Another thing is the too fast preflop timers. I get it recreational players like faster paced game. But at least allow automatic preflop timebank. Currently I'm timing out a lot of spots cause I don't have PartyCaption for automatic timebank.

Used to play a bunch on party. With those 2 things it's not really an attractive proposition to put in good volume.

As for anononymous lobbies + 100bb min buy-in = good IMO. It masks recreational players identities and they're not subject to seat scripting.

And btw, seat scripting is against ToS; so why the hell does party have this waiting list thing that is basically used for seat scripting?

#incoherentrant
The preflop timers aren't the problem. You're playing more tables than you can handle - and annoying players that you'd prefer to keep happy.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 08:12 AM
Same experience with the anon cash tables, tried it for a while but it causes endless table hopping and the experience is just thoroughly unenjoyable. Won't even consider playing on the site again until that gets reversed.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 09:07 AM
The issue I have with the removal of huds on regular tables is the deception behind it; Party claim that it is to protect recreational players. This obviously can't be true because 1) people are using an undetectable converter and 2) they haven't implemented this on any other format of poker on their site.

It's borderline insulting they claim that this is a move made to protect players. That just isn't true.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GazzyB123
The issue I have with the removal of huds on regular tables is the deception behind it; Party claim that it is to protect recreational players.
And they actually made it worse for recs. Only way to protect the recs is to remove handhistories like unibet (and mg atm) does.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 12:57 PM
Also removal of HUDs makes it much more harder to notice and prove collusion. Wouldn't have been able to catch MTT collusion ring if that would have been implemented on MTTs too.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 01:25 PM
The removal of huds was all about hiding the bots on Party. It was incovenient for the site to have the players being able to spot and expose so many of them, despite their own claims to be clamping down. That is the only reason huds were banned and it's also why this ban was only brought in for cash games on regular tables. Party are fully aware that there are hh convertors that allow players to still use a hud and their inaction on this front shows the hud ban had nothing at all to do with levelling the playing field.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 01:47 PM
Everyone on here knows what Husker says is true and yet there are a ton of pages in various threads of players complaining about what is obviously going on at Party Poker and yet how many still play there ?

Everyone should just stop playing there and only ever think of coming back once Party finally decide to address the issues.

Players are so desperate for some site to challenge Stars after their constant money grabs but i doubt Party will ever come close to being that site.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
Everyone on here knows what Husker says is true and yet there are a ton of pages in various threads of players complaining about what is obviously going on at Party Poker and yet how many still play there ?

Everyone should just stop playing there and only ever think of coming back once Party finally decide to address the issues.

Players are so desperate for some site to challenge Stars after their constant money grabs but i doubt Party will ever come close to being that site.
The really frustrating thing about it all is that Party was in an ideal spot to challenge Stars after the huge rakeback reductions but they've completely blown it with their actions (and inactions)
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
Everyone on here knows what Husker says is true and yet there are a ton of pages in various threads of players complaining about what is obviously going on at Party Poker and yet how many still play there ?

Everyone should just stop playing there and only ever think of coming back once Party finally decide to address the issues.

Players are so desperate for some site to challenge Stars after their constant money grabs but i doubt Party will ever come close to being that site.
That will never happen because regs can't bring themselves to forgo that precious 40% rakeback.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 05:15 PM
I would`ve played on Party if they brought proper HHs and HUD back.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-09-2018 , 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
That will never happen because regs can't bring themselves to forgo that precious 40% rakeback.
Regs wont leave because most of them have huds and the precious 40% rakeback. I wouldn't leave either but im too much of a sissy to break the rules so I can't play the reg tables.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-10-2018 , 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
Everyone on here knows what Husker says is true and yet there are a ton of pages in various threads of players complaining about what is obviously going on at Party Poker and yet how many still play there ?

Everyone should just stop playing there and only ever think of coming back once Party finally decide to address the issues.

Players are so desperate for some site to challenge Stars after their constant money grabs but i doubt Party will ever come close to being that site.
I've quit Party as I'm tired of playing against bots. I know my bots I was part of the Party bot busters group with Lessu. I've switched to Stars. Obviously the rakeback is pitiful but at least I know I'm playing against non-cheating players which makes for a more enjoyable experience. I now have a 'proper' job after playing fulltime for 8+ years (6 of those on Party) previously so I'm no longer reliant on poker for my livelihood which made the decision easier.
Since leaving Party I feel a renewed passion for the game.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-10-2018 , 10:27 AM
dunno if this is old news but it's confirmed (by an brs employee) that BRS has a massive affiliate deal or w/e, smt like 80% rakeback
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-10-2018 , 07:37 PM
Party poker is full of bots, that should be more that enough for quitting this bs site.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-10-2018 , 09:03 PM
what is BRS?
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-11-2018 , 11:49 AM
Staking / CFP stable
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-11-2018 , 09:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenpaiSwift
dunno if this is old news but it's confirmed (by an brs employee) that BRS has a massive affiliate deal or w/e, smt like 80% rakeback
I was not aware of this but am not surprised. Has party addressed the FACT that they give BRS players free rolls (where party keeps a share of the cashes) in MTTs that might overlay yet? I know of a few players who are not staked by BRS but have contacts in the stable and sometimes get offered free rolls by them. This even occurs in the very biggest buy in events on party.

Would anyone else like to see stables have to list players who play for them publicly so that others can have an idea of who's getting free rolls and who might be talking to who etc?
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-11-2018 , 10:37 PM
i mean sites regularly offer large affiliates better than average deals, that's what makes the affiliate business work, i just think things should be transparent
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-12-2018 , 05:23 AM
Party seems to be headed in the right direction, compared to Stars.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-12-2018 , 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrtight
Party seems to be headed in the right direction, compared to Stars.
What direction is that? Straight down off a cliff? Did you not read the last 10 posts road runner?
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-12-2018 , 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenpaiSwift
i mean sites regularly offer large affiliates better than average deals, that's what makes the affiliate business work, i just think things should be transparent
This. Tbh this is a big sticky point with me. Pads did say he'd look into it and let us know but never did.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-12-2018 , 12:30 PM
Party is still the 2nd biggest site at the moment though right? Is there a reason 888 isn't doing much?
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote
04-12-2018 , 01:10 PM
Another high quality question Pauly you are a real asset to this forum.

888 are developing new software capable of bounty builder tournaments so they are doing something. Might of known that if you engaged brain and did some research before posting whatever random thought pops into your head on this forum.

Last edited by U shove i call; 04-12-2018 at 01:19 PM.
Five reasons to not play on Party Poker Quote

      
m