Can you at least confirm you are sharing your special knowledge of how to fight money laundering with the other sites that as yet don't have inactivity fees?

When our society is under attack from terrorism we all have a duty to do whatever we can to cut off the means the terrorists use to fund themselves, even if it means putting aside the old inter-company rivalries.

You're the deluded **** if anything. You are happy to play in games filled with bots and cheaters, just to get your precious 40% rakeback. Let me tell you, no amount of rakeback will help you beat a table full of bots.

The OP raises some very good points. If I was a reg who thought about joining Party for the 40% rakeback, I would certainly think twice after what he posted.

Even Party should smile at what u did here. WP

Yeah but the question is, does the party Rep. know they were getting trolled?

I'm not trolling. It's just basic netiquette to assume the other person means what they say seriously.

This applies particularly where the alternative, i.e. that the person was using the fight against terrorism and other forms of serious crime as a smokescreen for narrow corporate interests, would be highly damning of them.

Party is going the right way they just need to

-Fix their hh's because i would say 90% of the regs have the software to convert hands anyways.
-attract more fish to the site , because many pokerstars regulars will come to party and i dont know if the amount of fish atm is enough to handle all the action it will create.

Yup, perhaps trolling was a poor choice of words, what I meant to say was that your post was a very intelligent way of asking a legitimate question but I knew you wouldn't get an answer...and I assume you knew as well.

This. Posted this to internet poker thread but doesn't hurt it to post it here imo.

Ridiculuos that they are doing this to make games better and the same time people are openly offering 3rd party tools. I know atleast one other site selling these here 2+2.

Wow you must be ****ing ******ed, they obviously had monetary value. Go tell your boss to fire you immediately.

That's pretty disrespectful to someone who achieves more IMO than the rest of Party's CS put together. I know that's not setting the bar particularly high but Colette has been a refreshing change over the past couple of years.

Legally speaking, she is entirely correct.

You can trade it for things that have cash value, it's basically party bucks.

I tried my best to ignore some of the negative feedback that came along with the new Vip rollout but increasingly I'm finding it difficult with some of the hair splitting justifications by Party poker.

I'd like to hear straight talk.

If there is no monetary value could Americans legally play on a table denominated in Player Points?

The hate is ridic
Yes the rakeback/points thing was handled poor and "no monetary value" is really, really poor reply.

All u guys who are so mad, what poker site/s in 2017 do you actually like/don't have something to complain about??

Mostly just people trolling. There are legitimate concerns but at least Party are open to discussing them.

take it easy here.

Atleast Party is trying their best and communicating with their players

I personally hope that their lobby/software improves asap.... that's probably the number 1 thing holding back a lot of players (recs/regs) to move their action to Party

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE FIX THE GLOBAL WAITLISTS BEING THE SAME FOR 100bb GAMES AND 5BB GAMES.

I think most people are reasonably balanced. The negatives associated with the changes have for the most been totally avoidable. Saying there's no monetary value for points is not the best line to take as it rings totally false to a poker player even if it's not enforceable in a court.

They could have plainly said it was a money grab from infrequent/dormant accounts which is offset by the giving to active players the common scratch tickets they award to win anywhere from a $1 LV/CPP ticket all the way up to a package. This is real money being given out.

When players look at the value given and compare it to the value taken away many would see it as a wash.

As for the increase in rb at the top end well there's no other way of looking at it besides that it's a good thing for players. The same can be said for the CPP leaderboards. For the latter I think Party is making a mistake business wise and will regret the specific areas in which they are spending their Promo budget... but money spent is still money spent so kudos is due.

Is she though? If I remember correctly didn't Pokerstars put a monetary value on here vip points in relation to the companies overal valueation when they were trying to sell to William Hill/price their stock value?

How about the rakes generated to gather those points? Do those rakes have monetary value? If not, take those away too. Your old point system was just a different form of rakeback, significantly less and optional to purchase prizes or money. Obvious cash grab

Ha ha, yup. I don't think she's as high up as others or she'd be in Vegas with the thirld world internet unable to respond

lmao. i've requested this so many times already.

it literally puts me on lifetilt

Sure I will share the feedback
Not going happen though - no one else wants to manage these threads, you are stuck with me


Thanks - I think....


You cant trade it for cash when we have no store to trade points in... or MTTs in which you can use them
Maybe I phrased it incorrectly - they have no monetary value post loyalty changes



Are you referring to Patrick? I am not an ambassador

I am not in Vegas as I have personal commitments.. happy to discuss face to face at an event later in the year
How about the Caribbean? Sochi?

It's mind-boggling that Party doesn't realize that their rationalizations are only succeeding at further alienating their customer base.

To be fair, this is how corporations generally communicate with their customers and maybe normal gambling customers accept it.

I've been a bit hard on them ITT in the hope of showing them its easier if they just try a more open way of communicating where the truth isn't just one of a series of options. Good role models for this might be Alex Scott from MPN and Andrew West formerly of Unibet. Perhaps its not a coincidence that those two places are growing.

If this was (for example) Betfair I wouldn't be wasting my time on trying to do that, so please take my (alleged) trolling as a compliment.