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11-14-2009 , 05:16 AM
Lets first by saying if anyone thinks I'm denying I got lucky at the final table then im not. 2nd poker is very situational basis depending what has been going on, images , stack sizes , fold equity, hand ranges, etc so for people to make assumptions by seeing 2 hours of footage cut from 17hours is pretty irreasonable. On that note since its 4:15am im just going to copy and paste what I wrote from last post.


For all those people who I agree what I said thank you and for the others than thats fine to everyone is subject to there opinion. Did I get extremely lucky during the final table of the main event? Yes I did, but as an extreme critic to my self play I was not mad about how I played any hand even though I got lucky. The table was 17 hours long cut into 2 hours so for people thinking they see all the big hands its pretty ridiculous. They don't show the 9 -10 hands where I 3bet shipped light and chipped up 20 percent of my stack everytime. They don't show 4 bluff steals or how often someone opens either. For having a 20bb stack 5handed to someone who open's 25percent of their hands and have yet to call a 3bet and has the perfect stack size where It would crush them isn't bad to ship 33 im sorry. Also noted that shulman raised the button with 99 and folded to phil ivey's ship from the bb.. Did I run like god at the final table 100 percent correct. Now 22 when your playing 3handed opening basically every pot and the person to the left of you is really aggr and has 3bet a lot and you have 40 bb with tons of fold equity noting 1hand he thought up to 5min getting it in preflop to a button 4bet after he 3bet with ak in bb is not bad. Some may not understand this but oh well. Now on other terms while we are fighting to protect online gambling stating its a skill game rather then gambling why would I say poker is luck evennnnnn if I did get lucky.
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11-14-2009 , 05:18 AM
first

congrats joe
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11-14-2009 , 05:20 AM
grats joe, u were my 2nd choice .
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11-14-2009 , 05:21 AM
Congratulations Joe!
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11-14-2009 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jcada99
...so for people to make assumptions by seeing 2 hours of footage cut from 17hours is pretty irreasonable.

The table was 17 hours long cut into 2 hours so for people thinking they see all the big hands its pretty ridiculous. They don't show the 9 -10 hands where I 3bet shipped light and chipped up 20 percent of my stack everytime. They don't show 4 bluff steals or how often someone opens either.

There were a lot of people on the 2+2 forums who followed the Main Event on Bluff's live audio broadcast. They followed every hand from start to finish.

So, a lot of criticism is coming from people who did indeed "see" every hand that was played. They're putting your all-in pushes with small pocket pairs into context with all the other hands played. They saw you opening and three-betting a lot of pots when it was short-handed. And, they saw you raise just about every button hand when it was heads-up.
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11-14-2009 , 05:24 AM
Congrats, Joe.

Way to bring one home for the D!

TJI
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11-14-2009 , 05:26 AM
The one good thing about Cada winning it is that Moon didn't.
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11-14-2009 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
There were a lot of people on the 2+2 forums who followed the Main Event on Bluff's live audio broadcast. They followed every hand from start to finish.

So, a lot of criticism is coming from people who did indeed "see" every hand that was played. They're putting your all-in pushes with small pocket pairs into context with all the other hands played. They saw you opening and three-betting a lot of pots when it was short-handed. And, they saw you raise just about every button hand when it was heads-up.

Did Bluff have coverage of the entire final table? I thought it was just head up?

TJI
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11-14-2009 , 05:29 AM
congrats joe! im with you on this.
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11-14-2009 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mr_tricks
The one good thing about Cada winning it is that Moon didn't.
and Begleiter, Shulman, and Buchman (he had all my chips had to throw that one in there)
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11-14-2009 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TJI_1234
Did Bluff have coverage of the entire final table? I thought it was just head up?
Bluff covered the whole thing, from nine-handed to the final hand. There is a massive thread in NVG in which people were following it live.
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11-14-2009 , 05:31 AM
Over the moon for you Joe.
Incredible run.
Well done
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11-14-2009 , 05:34 AM
Honestly Joe I don't even understand why you feel it's necessary to defend yourself. Reguardless of how the FT played out there will always be haters... You have the monies. You win. Thread over.
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11-14-2009 , 05:35 AM
Close your mouth
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11-14-2009 , 05:35 AM
Congrats dude you were my second choice too....what stakes do you usually play? Heads up cash right? Are you gonna jump up or what?
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11-14-2009 , 05:36 AM
Well, I guess I'll read the proceeding 30 pages of this thread when I wake up tommorow.
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11-14-2009 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Bluff covered the whole thing, from nine-handed to the final hand. There is a massive thread in NVG in which people were following it live.
There are multiple threads, in different forums.
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11-14-2009 , 05:40 AM
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Honestly Joe I don't even understand why you feel it's necessary to defend yourself. Reguardless of how the FT played out there will always be haters... You have the monies. You win. Thread over.
+1

Oh, and congrats. Sick life.
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11-14-2009 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Bluff covered the whole thing, from nine-handed to the final hand. There is a massive thread in NVG in which people were following it live.
to be fair a lot of big hands were missed when joe + maven decided to chat for a couple of hours about their home sngs
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11-14-2009 , 05:40 AM
Nice Job. Thank god you beat Moon.
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11-14-2009 , 05:41 AM
Congrats , F the haters .
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11-14-2009 , 05:44 AM
grats on your win!
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11-14-2009 , 05:46 AM
You´re going to be representing the game for the next year, so my advice to you would be to not get so defensive. People will always criticise your play, no matter who you are. That doesn´t mean that they are right.
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11-14-2009 , 05:47 AM
congratz mr.cada

You look drunk

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11-14-2009 , 06:05 AM
CONGRATS, NO NEED TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF IMHO.

ENJOY ETERNAL GLORY.

ALSO SHIP ME $1,000,000 ON POKERSTARS USERNAME MAJINBOOB KTHXBAI.
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