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09-01-2017 , 11:04 PM
Yeah let's not derail the thread.

Here is some more info about Fedor and some career highlights:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Holz
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09-02-2017 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey

* He comes from Saarbrücken, Germany, which is close to the French border. So had he been born 20 KMs further west he would be an horrendous weak tight calling station.
not much of a sagedonk fan, but that was pretty funny.
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09-02-2017 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
who needs primed mind when you got tinder
This is true. Fedork shouldve seen the writing on the wall.
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09-02-2017 , 09:54 AM
Had to google Walter Payton...

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09-02-2017 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Depends on your definition of "difference". There are only a handful of poker players who come close to being household names (e.g. Negreanu & Ivey)
LOL at Negreanu and Ivey being household names or even close.
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09-02-2017 , 11:10 AM
^^^
Depends on the household.
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09-02-2017 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
No money in mindset apps, every app solid.
Take my upvote.... Oh wait wrong forum.
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09-02-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ShowMeUrAce
People complain for years and YEARS that software is utter garbage **** developed in 1998 by 13 monkeys in a cage
This made me laugh because of how accurate it is. Randomly came across a stars wcoop replay from 2006/2007. The aesthetics hasn't changed much to this day and 10 year old software is still alot better than partys current offering.

Like a broken record but we all pray for someone to actually challenge stars and give us a product that works. They seem determined to give away live packages to the Caribbean that can be easily won by collusion and multi accounting instead of offering a client from this millennium.
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09-02-2017 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
This made me laugh because of how accurate it is. Randomly came across a stars wcoop replay from 2006/2007. The aesthetics hasn't changed much to this day and 10 year old software is still alot better than partys current offering.

Like a broken record but we all pray for someone to actually challenge stars and give us a product that works. They seem determined to give away live packages to the Caribbean that can be easily won by collusion and multi accounting instead of offering a client from this millennium.
what specifically are you missing? the only thing that i would potentially miss (but don't really need, ROI is more important as stated before) is custom bet sizing like you can do on stars (pre flop in BBs and post flop in percentage of the pot). 888 doesn't have that either. sounds kind of exaggerated, if i want some cool game with nice graphics i play BF1

as long as there is no chests involved it is cool!

and what collusion and multi accounting are you referring to specifically?

Last edited by AnotherMakiavelli; 09-02-2017 at 07:47 PM.
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09-02-2017 , 08:14 PM
You can have custom bet amounts on party now. Doesn't change how awful it for various reasons.

Been several threads about how party structure the leaderboards its wide open to abuse. Very difficult to win volume based prizes without playing 20 hours a day. Be alot easier to have 2 people playing on one account.
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09-02-2017 , 08:21 PM
not going to deposit a single dollar until their software gets an update on everything. It still feels the same compared to the old one
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09-02-2017 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
You can have custom bet amounts on party now. Doesn't change how awful it for various reasons.

Been several threads about how party structure the leaderboards its wide open to abuse. Very difficult to win volume based prizes without playing 20 hours a day. Be alot easier to have 2 people playing on one account.
sounds great then. when i played them the last time they didn't have that option. will play on there again when they hopefully offer MTTs again in spain by the end of the year.

am not trying to win the leaderboard, just want to ship some tournies here and there. there is no leaderboard at all on stars spain afaik.

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Originally Posted by SSKS
not going to deposit a single dollar until their software gets an update on everything. It still feels the same compared to the old one
rewrite everything? what do you mean? lol. how does it feel?? not soft enough?

Last edited by AnotherMakiavelli; 09-02-2017 at 09:38 PM.
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09-04-2017 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
Do you think this will make a difference in anything? Do you think Fedor has a wide enough audience from casual poker players to persuade them to change to partypoker instead of stars or do you think it was more of a signing for him to promote his App and that is all he is interested in?

How much $$$ you think was involved?

Wonder if instead of a salary ... is it possible he might have been able to make a deal for people to get a free month subscription to his app if they earn a certain amount of Party points? Or free ads for his app emailed out to everybody on Party's list? Or some other special promo for his app - like play a certain number of hands for a chance to win a free month's subscription, or something like that?

Might maybe be kind of neat if Party supported small businesses that can also maybe support them in return, or something like that?
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09-04-2017 , 04:02 AM
without really knowing much about poker these days I'd say that it's almost ceetainly a good move.

Never met Fedor but I get the impression he's a very pro-active, hands-on kind of guy, so if he's going to put some real work into the deal then I'd say it's a really good move.
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09-04-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly

Hey, this just showed up from Party with a bit more about ...
  1. Their move into high stakes
  2. And Fedor will be doing training videos for the learning academy


Maybe a little something for everybody?

Those training videos should be great if they're going to be for beginners? Still seem to be a beginner, after playing for 6 years Oh well ...
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09-04-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Had to google Walter Payton...
If you're not an American, you are excused.

If you ARE an American, you are about to be deported for having to Google his Sweetness.
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09-04-2017 , 08:31 PM
Who cares about Fedor when the real legend Moldran is signing with pp to stream for them.

https://www.partypoker.com/blog/moldran-twitch.html
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09-04-2017 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Who cares about Fedor when the real legend Moldran is signing with pp to stream for them.

https://www.partypoker.com/blog/moldran-twitch.html
Yayyy. Really hope to see him back streaming hyper sngs.
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09-04-2017 , 09:46 PM
By stimulating high stakes action and sponsoring a top tier pro like Holz it seems to me that they are bringing back the poker dream that appeals to the 'serious recreational' which is a huge market. Signing guys like Moldran to attract players in converging markets like gaming is another great move imo. Software issues aside, you can tell that the people in charge at Party (unlike Party circa 2005) have their finger on the pulse of the poker industry.
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09-04-2017 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AKingdom
Yayyy. Really hope to see him back streaming hyper sngs.
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Originally Posted by AKingdom
By stimulating high stakes action and sponsoring a top tier pro like Holz it seems to me that they are bringing back the poker dream that appeals to the 'serious recreational' which is a huge market. Signing guys like Moldran to attract players in converging markets like gaming is another great move imo. Software issues aside, you can tell that the people in charge at Party (unlike Party circa 2005) have their finger on the pulse of the poker industry.
***DISH 100%***
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09-08-2017 , 08:51 PM
Now we have six reasons to not play on Party Poker.
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09-09-2017 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AKingdom
By stimulating high stakes action and sponsoring a top tier pro like Holz it seems to me that they are bringing back the poker dream that appeals to the 'serious recreational' which is a huge market.
Yet they arbitrarily capped HUPLO at .5/1, while they have all mid-stakes, and up to 10/25 for NLHU. Funny enough, the HUPLO lobby often has more games running than players waiting with their HU system and decent rake back, while NLHU has lots of vacant seats.

Best answer I can get out of them is "there are no plans to introduce mid-stakes for HUPLO.

Leaving out midstakes tables is hardly good for stimulating high stakes action, how can a serious recreational move up?

Literally the only poker site on the internet who offer HUPLO and has a tiny cap for it (and not also nlh) I can't wrap my head around it.
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09-09-2017 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil
by randomness i compared viktors instagram following base, viktor got 3k, fedor 31k. That said, I wounder how much followers viktor woulda amassed if instagram was relevant and outed when he smashed through ftp. the handle isildur1 was up there as the most searched pokerrelated stuff on google.
Not that Fedor's Instagram is particularly interesting, but Blom only has 8 posts and the first one was made in 2014, so he's hardly active.

Antonio Esfandiari has over 60k, so, you know, I'm not sure what Instragram tells you.

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Some (interesting) facts about Fedor Holz:
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(interesting) facts
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09-10-2017 , 07:06 AM
Knowing fedor he prob only settled for huge payments, can't imagine how that's good for the site. Money would've been much better invested into attratcing new fish, fixing the software OR just lowering the rake. (Or increasing the rake, but that way bots profit from it much more then the few remaining human players, so I vastly prefer the first one)
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