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02-11-2017 , 07:20 AM

#276

mrno1324

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Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,055

Quote:

Originally Posted by amurophil

he is using the 'fold to 3bet' stat as opposed to the 'fold to 3bet after raising' stat on his hud.

Are you sure that this is a thing?

02-11-2017 , 08:11 AM

#277

enzet

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,378

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrno1324

Are you sure that this is a thing?

yes, same with jivaro, they put a completely irrelevant and misleading stat on the main screen.

02-11-2017 , 08:31 AM

#278

gay_on_tse

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 612

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianhastings

seems standard.. you sound like someone who's read a bit too much ap. of nlhe. It's a bad, inaccurate book from the perspective of GTO. 80%+ is bad but gto is probably aprox. 69-78% (a pretty big estimate, idk anywhere near exactly but this should portray the general idea). Think about it logically and if after that you still don't understand I can write out an explanation.

Wait guys, I want to read this explanation!

Why does the book sucks? Why gto Fto3B should be 69-78%?

02-11-2017 , 08:39 AM

#279

mrno1324

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Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,055

Quote:

Originally Posted by gay_on_tse

Wait guys, I want to read this explanation!

Why does the book sucks? Why gto Fto3B should be 69-78%?

That book is one of the best, it does not suck. What he's saying is that in practice you can fold more than MDF because when you call you'll be OOP without initiative most of the time and won't be able to continue post flop.
But I'm fairly sure that at some point around 72% it just becomes too much.
The explanation of HUD stats conundrum seems reasonable if it's true.

02-11-2017 , 08:46 AM

#280

Fayth

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,134

amurophil is right about that stats on PT4

02-11-2017 , 11:03 AM

#281

TimStone

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

Always wondered how somebody who is so successful at trading could potentially lose at poker but it makes all sense now. He 3bets superwide bc hes seeing autoprofitspots everywhere bc of a wrong stat.

02-11-2017 , 12:59 PM

#282

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

Tim,

Pretty sure that Bill Perkins is just playing for fun/hobby.

02-11-2017 , 01:20 PM

#283

whitemares

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,762

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimStone

I always thought it was because he doesn't invest anywhere near the time and energy toward improving at poker compared to the pros he's playing against.

02-11-2017 , 01:54 PM

#284

Waltjr

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 198

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimStone

Imagine playing 1c/2cNL, except with all the players being very good

02-11-2017 , 01:57 PM

#285

mrno1324

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Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,055

yeah he wasn't serious

02-11-2017 , 03:35 PM

#286

aintcreative

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90

Trueteller is such a beast. Playing 4 tables, 2 NLHE, 1 PLO and 1 8game...

02-11-2017 , 04:58 PM

#287

GazzyB123

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,966

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waltjr

Imagine playing 1c/2cNL, except with all the players being very good

Moot point, you can't seat script at 2nl.

02-12-2017 , 04:00 AM

#288

Rapidesh123

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 8,674

Quote:

Originally Posted by HH

Tim,

Pretty sure that Bill Perkins is just playing for fun/hobby.

he was also drinking like crazy lol
and owned some guy by shoving JJ pre looooool

02-12-2017 , 04:26 AM

#289

twalf

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 739

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapidesh123

he was also drinking like crazy lol

and owned some guy by shoving JJ pre looooool

On joey's podcast I thought bill said he doesn't drink at all ?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-12-2017 , 07:59 AM

#290

2000 East

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,288

Quote:

Originally Posted by twalf

On joey's podcast I thought bill said he doesn't drink at all ?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm sure he said it Dan Blitz that doesn't drink, I could be wrong though.

02-12-2017 , 02:34 PM

#291

whitemares

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,762

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000 East

I'm sure he said it Dan Blitz that doesn't drink, I could be wrong though.

He does say it on Joey's podcast, right around 38 minutes in the first one.

02-12-2017 , 05:34 PM

#292

Rapidesh123

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 8,674

Quote:

Originally Posted by twalf

On joey's podcast I thought bill said he doesn't drink at all ?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

he was drinking whisky for sure when he was playing lol

02-12-2017 , 10:17 PM

#293

Testi

Taking care of business

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,545

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $25/$50 - 4 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Tim0thee (UTG): $7984.30 (160 bb)
Secret_M0d3 (BU): $5652.94 (113 bb)
probirs (SB): $7218.13 (144 bb)
Th3_Gecko (BB): $5976.27 (120 bb)

Pre Flop: ($75)
1 fold, Secret_M0d3 (BU) raises to $125, probirs (SB) 3-bets to $500, 1 fold, Secret_M0d3 (BU) 4-bets to $1150, probirs (SB) calls $650

Flop: ($2350) 4

(2 players)
probirs (SB) checks, Secret_M0d3 (BU) bets $542, probirs (SB) calls $542

Turn: ($3434) A

(2 players)
probirs (SB) checks, Secret_M0d3 (BU) checks

River: ($3434) 5

(2 players)
probirs (SB) bets $5526.13 (all-in), Secret_M0d3 (BU) calls $3960.94 (all-in)

Total pot: $11355.88 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
probirs (SB) shows Q

(a pair of Aces)
(Equity - pre: 66%, flop: 66%, turn: 77%, river: 0%)

Secret_M0d3 (BU) shows 2

(a straight, Ace to Five)
(Equity - pre: 34%, flop: 34%, turn: 23%, river: 100%)

Secret_M0d3 (BU) wins $11353.88

02-13-2017 , 12:11 AM

#294

spewmonk3y

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 335

Prob not right place for this, but since here was some bot discussion earlier. Its 40and7.

wp stars

02-13-2017 , 01:10 AM

#295

frabb

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 175

b-but he prob just study harders

02-13-2017 , 01:16 AM

#296

AltruisticRaven

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by spewmonk3y

Prob not right place for this, but since here was some bot discussion earlier. Its 40and7.

wp stars

Amazing.

02-13-2017 , 01:18 AM

#297

angeles

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,942

"probably just better than you guys - should be ashamed at outing him without any 'proof'"

-_-

02-13-2017 , 02:11 AM

#298

Testi

Taking care of business

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,545

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $25/$50 - 4 players
Rail Hand History Converter

DANMERRRRRRR (UTG): $9998 (200 bb)
takechip (BU): $9008.37 (180 bb)
mczhang (SB): $2650 (53 bb)
Tim0thee (BB): $5443.23 (109 bb)

Pre Flop: ($75)
DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) raises to $121.25, takechip (BU) 3-bets to $381.60, 2 folds, DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) calls $260.35

Flop: ($838.20) 6

(2 players)
DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) checks, takechip (BU) bets $459.91, DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) calls $459.91

Turn: ($1758.02) 4

(2 players)
DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) checks, takechip (BU) bets $1317.02, DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) calls $1317.02

River: ($4392.06) 3

(2 players)
DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) checks, takechip (BU) bets $2414.53, DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) raises to $7839.47 (all-in), takechip (BU) calls $4435.31 (all-in)

Total pot: $18091.74 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) shows 3

(a full house, Threes full of Fours)
(Equity - pre: 20%, flop: 25%, turn: 82%, river: 100%)

takechip (BU) shows K

(two pair, Kings and Threes)
(Equity - pre: 80%, flop: 75%, turn: 18%, river: 0%)

DANMERRRRRRR (UTG) wins $18089.74

02-13-2017 , 03:50 AM

#299

Testi

Taking care of business

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,545

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $25/$50 - 4 players
Rail Hand History Converter

angryogr1 (UTG): $5648 (113 bb)
mighty28 (BU): $16785.38 (336 bb)
borntotilt (SB): $5000 (100 bb)
Tim0thee (BB): $10500.09 (210 bb)

Pre Flop: ($75)
2 folds, borntotilt (SB) raises to $150, Tim0thee (BB) 3-bets to $457.34, borntotilt (SB) 4-bets to $1200, Tim0thee (BB) calls $742.66

Flop: ($2400) T

(2 players)
borntotilt (SB) bets $3800 (all-in), Tim0thee (BB) calls $3800

First Turn: ($10000) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

First River: ($10000) 7

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Second Turn: ($10000) Q

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($10000) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10000 (Rake: $2)

First Showdown: Board: T

borntotilt (SB) shows J

(a pair of Sixes)
(Equity - pre: 62%, flop: 43%, turn: 30%, river: 0%)

Tim0thee (BB) shows 8

(a straight, Six to Ten)
(Equity - pre: 38%, flop: 57%, turn: 70%, river: 100%)

Tim0thee (BB) wins $4999

Second Showdown: Board: T

borntotilt (SB) shows J

(two pair, Queens and Sixes)
(Equity - pre: 62%, flop: 43%, turn: 80%, river: 100%)

Tim0thee (BB) shows 8

(two pair, Nines and Sixes)
(Equity - pre: 38%, flop: 57%, turn: 20%, river: 0%)

borntotilt (SB) wins $4999

02-13-2017 , 04:09 AM

#300

Tutejszy

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,633

wow, stars dropping banhammer on both oborra and 40and7, wpwp

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