My bad watched it when first came out and didn’t remember was next day,

Take it easy on him He just made a mistake, it wasn't like he was using RTA

while there's no doubt, the social media team is not on top of their game, i've to say pads question was a bit naive. why would any room talk about specific players, they investigate?

anyway .. i wonder if this tweet will be taken down eventually, it's beyond unprofessional.

ppl getting dumber and dumber ... someone posted, that there is a rumour that dom was banned (which has to be proven). now it's pretty obvious, b/c Nitsche knows a programmer guy

why would Henri buy action from Fedor, if he uses his own RTA system? why wasn't anyone suspicious about him? why do they need to a programmer in the 1st place? besides running the sims, creating a database isn't that complicated and what fedor's friends said, he used a second mouse to navigate on the 2nd computer. it seems that wasn't very sophisticated at all. no auto-detection of the board and stacks, nor voice command ... we defnetly need more random accusations from ppl with limited understanding of the whole thing ITT ...

Is using a shove chart in real time considered cheating? Same question on an app like Snapshove?

^^
If that is the case, I can't imagine GG banning all the losing players.

Anything that adapts to stacksizes / situation is against rules on most sites ToS (while allowing 'basic' preflop charts)

chart telling you to open 27% in CO is fine , chart telling you how to react to a 3bet / what to 4bet vs 50bb,100bb 150bb and 200bb or an app that instantly adjust to your stack size seems like on some level soft cheating albeit many many people recs included will be using stuff to help preflop based on the twitter polls / discussions I have seen.

Two big poker twitter accounts that had over 1k votes each literally ended about 50% yes 50% no on both when questions were asked
'is using snapshove while playing cheating?'
and
'is using preflop charts while playing cheating'

As a reg who has played a lot with that c*nt Nitsche this year. Would be quite happy to get him out of the games but he wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the list of people I'd accuse of RTAing.

He obviously has a database of solves for DTO but in fairness to him he plays a totally different strat pre that would make these pretty much useless. For those that dont know he appears to play a limp/3.5x in game. This would make virtually all of the solves in DTO useless as they use 2x/2.3x depending on stack sizes.

Can never be sure about anybody but seems pretty inefficient to be using RTA and end up playing more multiway pots by limping. Also he's one of the faster acting regs although that doesn't mean much i guess.

Seems like GG are just absolutely clicking buttons when you see some of the random people getting banned. People who play these games will know there's some people who you'd be suspicious of. Yet to hear if any of these have been banned.

Using any charts, programs, tools, apps ahould be banned and id blame it on coaching sites and streamers for the increase in ppl thinking cheating is OK.
The amount of times ive seen streamers use charts is pretty astounding so ppl think its fine along with HH review videos/content on coaching courses where you see how easy it is to make your life easier with some help from solver materials.
Ppl should be blackballed from all poker and training sites and named and shamed for any cheating, even the slightest infractions and it will soon stop
There are no consequences when you can just get another account or another site

Depends on the site. GG considers charts as RTA.

from GG pokers ToS
So it's likely if MTT players are banned its because of push/fold charts.

How does one get banned for push fold charts? Do they have access to your browser? I mean simple push/fold is very easy to play 99% GTO if you have played for many years

If you try play like a machine(GTO) dont be surprised when you get mistaken for one by an algo or a non poker player lol.
Im glad these clowns got banned for using charts if thats the case but still annoyed over the fedor /Henri silence from GG/N8
The GTO thing always confused me. If everyone is learning from the same charts/solves then exploiting that would surely be the most profitable. Its no wonder tourneys are boring as **** with just nonstop chart approved play being used.

How does one go about exploiting a push or a fold?

GTO is the strategy where you cannot change or exploit it to gain EV if you are playing against it. Basically if someone uses the GTO push range and you don't call the GTO call range you lose.

The fact that everyone else plays it means it is more important that you also play it.

As far as I am concerned exploits come from imbalance in ranges. If you want to exploit GTO nerds/bots you should play a strategy like someone mentioned Dom Nitsche plays where he limps/3.5x only.

No money in poker, everyone's solid. Uhm, sorry:
No money in poker, everyone's a c*nt.

MTT is not zero sum though so equilibria do not exist?

MTT's are zero-sum (You pay rake before you enter the tourney).

Every game with a finite number of players and a finite number of pure strategies has an odd number of NE's. (Nash's Existence theorem)

So if you have a super or photographic memory you run the risk of being banned on GG?
I'm well safe on that score!

I'm pretty sure you are just trolling at this point. Either that or you are just blabbering endlesly about topics you have very little to no knowledge on.

If we could exploit GTO then why would everyone be so concerned about Kruse cheating by using GTO solves?
The answer may surprise you: You can't exploit GTO.

GTO-strategies only gain from other people deviating from GTO.

Maybe read up on some game theory before you post/play again.

gl

So everyone is playing GTO with no mistakes?.
i dont think so and without the charts to look up they would make even more mistakes bar a select few at the top and thats why they are at the top.
This thought of he plays GTO style so i should makes no sense.
Not 1 player plays even close to proper GTO so my point still stands.
That also doesn't mean you shouldn't also know some GTO stuff for a better understanding of what those players will do.
As for the reading and playing. Ive readmany poker books from phil Gordon's little green book to tom chambers PLO books and have PLO pre flop and tourney charts for study along with folders of material etc.
Ive also got a decent double figure bbs/100 winrate at PLO so i think il stick with whatvim doing thanks

Another thing is Kruse supposedly had 67000 solver solutions for 100bb cash games and not a tournament set up(seems nostly MTT players banned) which includes many different stack sizes which need more solutions.
BenCB and Pads spoke about the difference on the podcast

Usually I use to read only, but now I also wanna post something. First of all I want to say, Ive played on Natural8 in 2016 and there where a few cash games running, nearly no tourneys had more then 30-50 players and there where just a few regs, so the games where really soft. The problem was, they banned winning players in these days, two friends of mine where banned and they had not cheated or something for sure, they never got their money or any reason! So Ive stopped playing there and started again a few weeks ago. Right now, especially when I read about tonka has been banned, if this is true, it feels like 2016 again to me!

About the RTA stuff, of course this is unethic, but its logical to me people are using everything they can to improve the win rate. Using Charts while playing seems to be standard to me, but if you do so, its really static play and you often do failures by calling rejams and so on, at least on buyins <200$ you may will still end up loosing if youre not able to play flexible ranges against certain player types. Knowing the chart to know what is standard and then adapt and change the ranges to what my opponent is doing was the key for me to become a good reg, so using charts is really not cheating to me! What I mean is, if youre opponent is not following GTO but you do, you will often make big failures by calling and betting / 4betting and then you will bleeding a **** ton of money as long as you are not playing high stakes, where GTO knowledge is more usable. In MTT you want to follow more exploitative approach in general, using Solvers RTA in Cash Games, especially in High Stakes Cash Games seems to be more the case / problem that appears right here. For me as a German, the evidence against Fedor Kruse seems to be legit, but tonka? Really?

Yeah Cash Games are more static, so there it is more easy to build enough trees.

Since you have done so much reading, maybe a book on how to write so that people can comrehend what you are trying to communicate would help.

You are really just posting nonsense.

-BD

Dude i'm sorry but you can't even string a few sentences together. Do you really think anyone believes that you have a double digit winrate?

Lmao.
Another guy on BenCBs video comments said the same thing.
I posted a month of hands for a rec who plays 2 hours a night and its about 9kbbs over 20k hands on 2 sites
Go look at his pads podcasts and you can see it.
Im also not going to post whole graphs for internet randoms