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09-24-2020 , 08:56 AM
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On the other hand, posts like this were commonplace 10 years ago as well. Oborra happened years ago.
Not quite. I started NLH 10 years ago (and joined 2+2 at the same time, diff un back then)

GTO/solver stuff had not really kicked off then...it was more about data mining/Poker Edge sought of stuff. Poker boom was fading fast and government action was kicking in large, not just Black Friday, but segregated playing pools too. (France, Italy Spain...I miss the aggortard spaniards )

But at least there were still plenty of fish and rakeback. You could (and plenty did) grind rakeback for profit even if you were a b/e simpleton like me.

That's all long gone, so for most online now you can either cheat or you can lose (yeah there will always be endboss outliers...an even more who talk a good game) but for the rank and file serious recs and average regs, not willing to cheat, and not willing to nail their ass to a computer screen all the livelong day, its done.

If you can, play live...wish I could

Last edited by OldManDecaf; 09-24-2020 at 09:02 AM.
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09-24-2020 , 09:23 AM
And not to mention this is the worst time for RTA use to come to light. Poker scene was blooming with influx of new players due to COVID and global sites started to emerge. We even had HS battles like the old times. Even deposits and withdrawals are cheaper, faster and easier than ever with cryptos.

Now the focus should be on game integrity and safety. I am ok with getting beaten fair and square as are most people looking for challenge, but getting beaten by some brain dead button presser is unacceptable.
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09-24-2020 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by t0bes1
What was hyperbole/future gazing in 2010, is now the reality of 2020 imo.
bots were crushing midstakes in 2010. since then we had players like limitless and linus (to name a few) come out of nowhere and make it to the top.

rta is the new excuse for people not willing to work on their game.
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09-24-2020 , 10:36 AM
No idea whats true about this and what not.


Biggest pricks in this story are his roomates though..


1) Buys action, when he knows Kruse is cheating.

2) Betrays him and goes behind his back and tells people that he is cheating (posts their private conversations, pictures and so on), although he profited from it.


If its not true its even worse obv.
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09-24-2020 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kade1988
No idea whats true about this and what not.


Biggest pricks in this story are his roomates though..


1) Buys action, when he knows Kruse is cheating.

2) Betrays him and goes behind his back and tells people that he is cheating (posts their private conversations, pictures and so on), although he profited from it.


If its not true its even worse obv.
So the roommates should of not reported him and Keep letting him use his RTA?
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09-24-2020 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WhatsA3bet
So the roommates should of not reported him and Keep letting him use his RTA?
For the sake of thread quality and relevance, it's best to just ignore stupid posts.
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09-24-2020 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SmallBallCall
Can we please stop this debate?

A HUD is RTA. It assists you. In real time. End of discussion. Is it as effective as having Pio solutions, perhaps not. But it is something that 'assists' you, in 'real time'. By definition it is RTA. Can we move on form that? Anyone who says it isn't, is wrong.
How about this? How about you aren't the sole arbiter because you are, in fact, wrong in my view. State your opinion as opinion but stop telling me and others how to interpret RTA (just as I have to interpret how to use the information that a HUD gives me).

-BD
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09-24-2020 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cephei
bots were crushing midstakes in 2010. since then we had players like limitless and linus (to name a few) come out of nowhere and make it to the top.

rta is the new excuse for people not willing to work on their game.
Those same bots are X% better vs 2010 (for reasons stated). Midstakes is Y% tougher in general. Rake is Z% higher.

All of X, Y & Z have are non-trivial numbers imo. As such I think the chance of replicating LL now by 'working on your game' is essentially 0% (similar to picking up a tennis racket and 'working on your game' to become as good as Roger Federer)
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09-24-2020 , 11:16 AM
I think a lot of people ITT are overgeneralizing too much.

Fact 1:
We don’t know what percentage of cheaters get caught on each site.

Fact 2:
We have no idea how much Kruse was cheating on each site.

Yet I see so many people just assuming that since one guy’s roommates came forward with these allegations, before he got caught by a pokersite, that the whole world is cheating.

The most popular sites have been catching cheaters for 15 years+. The methods these sites use to retain the integrity of the game have also been improving over this same time-span.

Yes it is a big deal that Kruse was cheating in such high-stakes cash games, but I think it’s unfair to other players and to sites that work hard to uphold a certain standard of integrity, to assume that anyone else is cheating. This is one guy. Does he really fare against the other millions of poker players?
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09-24-2020 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by daviycrip
What kind of snake roommates do you have to be to post on 2+2 against a friend like this? Holy **** that's such a disgrace. Deal with it in house you zero loyalty cockroaches.
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I am not taking a position on whether he cheated or not in my comment. Just saying that it takes trash humans to **** on a friendship like this.
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Can a mod please ban this obv roommate of fedor who betrayed their friendship?
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Originally Posted by Kade1988
Biggest pricks in this story are his roomates though..


1) Buys action, when he knows Kruse is cheating.

2) Betrays him and goes behind his back and tells people that he is cheating (posts their private conversations, pictures and so on), although he profited from it.


If its not true its even worse obv.
So which account is Kruse and which account is Buehlero?

-BD
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09-24-2020 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Im Nacho Friend
I think a lot of people ITT are overgeneralizing too much.

Fact 1:
We don’t know what percentage of cheaters get caught on each site.

Fact 2:
We have no idea how much Kruse was cheating on each site.

Yet I see so many people just assuming that since one guy’s roommates came forward with these allegations, before he got caught by a pokersite, that the whole world is cheating.

The most popular sites have been catching cheaters for 15 years+. The methods these sites use to retain the integrity of the game have also been improving over this same time-span.

Yes it is a big deal that Kruse was cheating in such high-stakes cash games, but I think it’s unfair to other players and to sites that work hard to uphold a certain standard of integrity, to assume that anyone else is cheating. This is one guy. Does he really fare against the other millions of poker players?
Yes, I think your spot on.
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09-24-2020 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by t0bes1
As such I think the chance of replicating LL now by 'working on your game' is essentially 0% (similar to picking up a tennis racket and 'working on your game' to become as good as Roger Federer)
wrote a pretty lengthy reply, but figured I might have misunderstood this part, could you elaborate?
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09-24-2020 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SmallBallCall
Can we please stop this debate?

A HUD is RTA. It assists you. In real time. End of discussion.
the guy who lost over $100000 playing nl2 ($0.02 blind, not $2.00) is using a hud.

end of discussion.
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09-24-2020 , 12:55 PM
Saying that huds are "real time assistance" is like saying drinking coffee is "doing drugs".
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09-24-2020 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BackingDonk
How about this? How about you aren't the sole arbiter because you are, in fact, wrong in my view. State your opinion as opinion but stop telling me and others how to interpret RTA (just as I have to interpret how to use the information that a HUD gives me).

-BD
Well you haven't said anything to challenge his logic. All you seem to be able to muster is some feels over reals argument like "I don't feel like you're right so therefore you're wrong". Put your mouth where your foot currently is please.
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09-24-2020 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BackingDonk
So which account is Kruse and which account is Buehlero?

-BD
Seems like you're missing a couple of braincells there buddy. I am almost certain that Fedor cheated based on what I've read and gathered from the situation. Being cash player myself who used to play really high, i know the likelihood of rising in stakes that quickly is ridiculous to even believe anyone can do.
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09-24-2020 , 04:12 PM
This literally means nothing and doesn't disprove what the poster said in the slightest.

So.... start of discussion then?
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09-24-2020 , 04:48 PM
Didnt pads and bencb both say they had friends that invested in Kruse?

Apologies if I misheard that in the podcast but I remember them glossing over that for like 5 seconds and I'm not going to watch a 90 minute podcast again, that was boring to me, just to make 100% sure im right.

Do not quote me on this - please. But if someone can fact check this that would be appreciated.
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09-24-2020 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by happy to be hear
Didnt pads and bencb both say they had friends that invested in Kruse?

Apologies if I misheard that in the podcast but I remember them glossing over that for like 5 seconds and I'm not going to watch a 90 minute podcast again, that was boring to me, just to make 100% sure im right.

Do not quote me on this - please. But if someone can fact check this that would be appreciated.
Yes, iirc they said that they had friends that invested in Kruse when he was playing against Leon Tsoukernik. In this game, however, Kruse lost quite a bit, so they decided to not further stake him.
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09-24-2020 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by happy to be hear
Didnt pads and bencb both say they had friends that invested in Kruse?

Apologies if I misheard that in the podcast but I remember them glossing over that for like 5 seconds and I'm not going to watch a 90 minute podcast again, that was boring to me, just to make 100% sure im right.

Do not quote me on this - please. But if someone can fact check this that would be appreciated.
Pretty sure I also heard this yeah. Most likely guys from no limit gaming, zeh germans!
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09-24-2020 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SmallBallCall
I think this needs to become a crime. People would still do it, but the repercussions would at least be more of a deterrent. It's a form of fraud. Unfortunately, the gambling world has always been a bit murky, so I doubt we'll ever get to it being illegal
It is a crime, it's called fraud
I lost money vs Fedor and since I live in the same city and my dad is a laywer I'm looking into this
If anyone happens to have Fedors phone Nr or new Adress, please PM it to me, it would help me speed up the process
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09-25-2020 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
It is a crime, it's called fraud
I lost money vs Fedor and since I live in the same city and my dad is a laywer I'm looking into this
If anyone happens to have Fedors phone Nr or new Adress, please PM it to me, it would help me speed up the process
Even if you get the adress: dont do something you might regret. Its just money.
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09-25-2020 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by magellan89
Even if you get the adress: dont do something you might regret. Its just money.
Leon will surely have already instructed his "friends" to provide for a "universal" balance ... so I don’t worry that it could be different.
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09-25-2020 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed_Miller
Leon will surely have already instructed his "friends" to provide for a "universal" balance ... so I don’t worry that it could be different.
Why would Leon do that when ccording to post #645, " Krusee lost quite a bit to Leon".
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09-25-2020 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
It is a crime, it's called fraud
I lost money vs Fedor and since I live in the same city and my dad is a laywer I'm looking into this
If anyone happens to have Fedors phone Nr or new Adress, please PM it to me, it would help me speed up the process
I don't have his recent details but some other information. Check your pm.
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