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09-13-2020 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamer
Maybe I'm missing something but even if everything that is alleged is 100% true.

Is it against the terms of any of the poker sites?

I'm not seeing any real time software being suggested or used?

He is basically using the 2nd computer to look at pre-made charts.

Nothing interacts with his opponent or the software or makes real time adjustments based on the opponent stats as far as I can see?

So it would seem its OK to run sims and memorize them but not to have them written down?

Arnt huds or notetakers more automated than this?

Huds and notes are basically thousands of premade charts with data to help you play your opponent?
Join Date: Dec 2002
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09-13-2020 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamer
Maybe I'm missing something but even if everything that is alleged is 100% true.

Is it against the terms of any of the poker sites?
Yes

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Originally Posted by Dreamer
I'm not seeing any real time software being suggested or used?

He is basically using the 2nd computer to look at pre-made charts.

Nothing interacts with his opponent or the software or makes real time adjustments based on the opponent stats as far as I can see?
He has simple post flop open on 2nd monitor in that picture... One might call that software.. being used in.. Real Time

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Originally Posted by Dreamer
So it would seem its OK to run sims and memorize them but not to have them written down?
Yes.... How did you do in school? was your teacher mad if you brought a notebook with all the info that would be on the test? or did they expect you to remember and understand the material to the best of your ability then use it on the test? Memorizing 1000s of sims is not possible. The best players are those who can learn how they work and try to apply them in game in as many spots as possible. Having them on your second monitor while playing is a massive deal

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Originally Posted by Dreamer
Arnt huds or notetakers more automated than this?

Huds and notes are basically thousands of premade charts with data to help you play your opponent?
More automated yes.. Tells you how opponents are playing, not how to play or what the answer to every spot perfectly with many bet sizings.
Huds and and notes are like elementary tools compared to university professor understandings of info that sims provide





Tools are there to help improve your game and learn how to be good at poker, not to play the game for you cause you don't might ripping off fellow poker pros in the game you are in
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09-13-2020 , 05:13 PM
anyone with info wanna come chat on stream today dm me, chilling with German mate atm and talking about this shiz
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09-13-2020 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
If you don't know what you're talking about don't post
Great advice that alot of people in NVG don't seem to take.
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09-13-2020 , 05:22 PM
Henri Scamlero always had like 50%.

This is insane.

ACTION AND FAST PLEASE N8.
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09-13-2020 , 05:23 PM
Kind of frustrating to see that most comments focus on the obvious but imo in relation rather minor mistakes of the roommates instead of the big problems this post shows. Right now I also don‘t see which advantage his roommates would get from exposing this information if he wouldn‘t have been cheating (especially when they also made a mistake and therefore can get attacked which is happening right now). Btw can‘t understand anyone in here who treats having 5% action for 2 sessions (and regreting it and posting this mistake) way worse than cheating for months. Especially when we wouldn’t even could give fnacy opinions without their leak. Maybe every 2+2 nvg poster is a keyboard jesus with 100% moralic decisions 24/7 and would have for sure dealt perfectly with everything when figuring out that his friend and/ or roommate started cheating. Always super easy to be not involved and just giving away super smart advice or attack people. After reading this thread I just hope that I will never be in this situation because it seems like you always are the lose.
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09-13-2020 , 05:24 PM
Kruse can just **** off. The other guys who staked him, knowing he cheated, should pay back their share of the winnings to the site or they should recive the same amount of shaming as Kruse. Really hope Joey and every other big name in poker slams anyone who was part of the operation and the cheaters details shared between the big sites. Really hope GG sues Kruse as he was a sponsored pro (I think?)
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09-13-2020 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by QuiaOmnisIustitia
So this screenshot he tells his roomate that he is going to play 50/100 and Henri "Buehlero" Buehler has 65% of the action? wtf?
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09-13-2020 , 05:42 PM
Completely shocked and disappointed by Henry's
Involvement.

https://gyazo.com/8224a1e2efa206171acb9daf49172811
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09-13-2020 , 05:53 PM
I don't know a why this thread is not going crazy like the Postle case thread. This is much more concerning to me personally as it directly effects me and all online cash and mtt players.

Also Postle alleg. Took 250k? This here could be much more,
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09-13-2020 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I don't know a why this thread is not going crazy like the Postle case thread. This is much more concerning to me personally as it directly effects me and all online cash and mtt players.

Also Postle alleg. Took 250k? This here could be much more,
It is, just in viewership so far instead of replies.

Check the "Currently Active Users" space near the bottom of the NVG homepage. The number of "Guests" is up about 7x in the last hour or so. The number of "Members" is about 2x of what it would typically be.
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09-13-2020 , 06:01 PM
I find it a bit disconcerting that he was 4-6 tabling while doing this more than anything else. 40and7 and oborra weren't doing it to that extent before AFAIK. Also just that it's widely known that those two were doing this like 5 years ago just shows that is likely going on at a scale something like 100-500* more than just this one lone case. Especially on non-stars sites that don't make one take a video of one playing for extended periods of time.

Last edited by PerDoom; 09-13-2020 at 06:07 PM.
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09-13-2020 , 06:02 PM
Not much to see here.

This kind of cheating seems super likely and the pokersites gain nothing (very hard to prove as well) by going public with investigations like this.

The only real "solution" for online Poker would be to change blind structures/antes in cash games so that solvers are unusable for the most part.

(lol is never going to happen) Suggestion for all games >100NL:

200 Straddles min Buy-in
3blinds (sb+bb+straddle)
1sb ante from every player
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09-13-2020 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I don't know a why this thread is not going crazy like the Postle case thread. This is much more concerning to me personally as it directly effects me and all online cash and mtt players.

Also Postle alleg. Took 250k? This here could be much more,
because a lot of players use RTA, its not really news worthy anymore
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09-13-2020 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dace
because a lot of players use RTA, its not really news worthy anymore
That's just simply untrue.
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09-13-2020 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
It is, just in viewership so far instead of replies.

Check the "Currently Active Users" space near the bottom of the NVG homepage. The number of "Guests" is up about 7x in the last hour or so. The number of "Members" is about 2x of what it would typically be.
Thanks bro. That explains it a bit. Also
After thinking about it myself. What do you really want to say to that? No comment? Speachlessness? Or just stay put for more input?
Pretty sure this effects more people as more people play online than live.
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09-13-2020 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by randomzoomreg
Henri Scamlero always had like 50%.

This is insane.

ACTION AND FAST PLEASE N8.
Quote:
Originally Posted by washoe
Completely shocked and disappointed by Henry's
Involvement.

https://gyazo.com/8224a1e2efa206171acb9daf49172811
henry dont stream to much anymore also its quite play well 5-6 months before he is so spewy line and struggle high stakes and take this guy %50 but dont take solver and RTA its like thinking so naive also allinpav to much struggle this year on mtt and henri crushing and staking RTA guy LUL.nice improve

Last edited by fromnassau; 09-13-2020 at 06:16 PM.
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09-13-2020 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PerDoom
I find it a bit disconcerting that he was 4-6 tabling while doing this more than anything else. 40and7 and oborra weren't doing it to that extent before AFAIK. Also just that it's widely known that those two were doing this like 5 years ago just shows that is likely going on at a scale something like 100-500* more than just this one lone case. Especially on non-stars sites that don't make one take a video of one playing for extended periods of time.
Yup.

This is def just the tip of the iceberg.
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09-13-2020 , 06:11 PM
If he was looking these up in Excel instead of a solver, would it still be illegal? Don't solvers take forever to crunch numbers anyway? Seems like you just need pre-made tables for this.

So what if, instead of any kind of software, you just write every spot down on index cards - then have a giant card catalog next to your desk that you can quickly access? Legal or no?
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09-13-2020 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
That's just simply untrue.
How is it untrue?

I posted multiple links of teams of poker players who wanted to get this kind of app developed. Those are just the ones in the public domain. The scale of it behind the scenes must be massive. To think otherwise seems completely illogical.
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09-13-2020 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
So what if, instead of any kind of software, you just write every spot down on index cards - then have a giant card catalog next to your desk that you can quickly access? Legal or no?
gl finding the 4bp turn donk sb BTN on Q98T card from the pile before you time out
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09-13-2020 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dace
because a lot of players use RTA, its not really news worthy anymore
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
That's just simply untrue.
actually fedor have 30 buyin downswing on 25/50 imagine variance u can play well but variance getting hard so someone study hard off table or exploit solver user etc but just imagine variance u can perfectly solver perspective but get 30 buy-in downswing with 100bb also he is table select and likely bumhunter.
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09-13-2020 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
gl finding the 4bp turn donk sb BTN on Q98T card from the pile before you time out
What if I build a robotic arm to access the cards really fast?
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09-13-2020 , 06:20 PM
I find all the comments trying to assign blame to the roommates absolutely disgusting
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09-13-2020 , 06:20 PM
It seems pretty likely he cheated, and should be punished appropriately, but it's pretty funny that the conversation apparently went like:

"Hey, we noticed you locked your door sometimes when you play poker, do you have a secret dream machine that you built?"

"...yes"

There's got to be more to that story, right? It just seems so unnatural.
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