Right... Pokerstars banned him because he has done absolutely nothing wrong and we should trust with our eyes closed that everything he does is upstanding...

This doesn't mean he was involved or aware of what Kruse was doing but to say hes done nothing wrong when he has recently been banned is absurd!! Show me the proof of why he was banned and how it relates to him doing nothing wrong... I'm waiting.

I mean, I agree that its kinda pointless to talk about him at this stage when the problem is much bigger and there is no proof or even accusation of anything but also understand why it seems weird that he got banned from the biggest site in the world that is not known for just banning people at around the same time his friend was scamming people with RTA.

maybe you should? rather than repeating your unfounded speculation about how long the roommates had known - you've said it now, maybe you should actually leave it at that?

last time you started choking a thread with stacks of uninformed posts they got deleted and you got temp banned for "terrible ignorant posting".

and then you got mad with the mods and requested to be permanently banned from the site - as long as the mods would promise that your highly sensitive personal date of birth info would be also be permanently erased

we need a Ingram investigation. seems like he had known about this for some time

didnt pads mention in his tweet that fedor is gonna write up a statement?

I don't mean to single you out and of course you're under no obligation to answer or to speak for anyone else, but I'm curious since you are (to my knowledge) the only HSNL reg posting in this thread, although I am sure many more are reading it.

I'm wondering while reading this how big a deal this is, and how the HSNL players are responding in private?

As a midstakes player who is putting in lots of study lately, its hard to know what to think: it seems certain that if this guy was getting away with it, others who are more careful will be too.

I feel like the games are still very beatable at 200 and 500nl, and therefore with more work the higher games will be too, but its difficult to tell if that's wishful thinking.

Do you suspect other top players are using some sort of assistance? How prevalent is it?

Is there any effort among high stakes regs to come up with a plan to deal with this?

Is anyone in touch with serious people working for the sites who are working to prevent this?

How much of a worry is this for the future of online poker?

Lots of opinions in this thread but very few from people who know what it takes to get to the top, would be great to hear your thoughts, or anyone else who is actually beating the high stakes games at the moment.

(apologies if I didn't notice other high stakes regs posting, your thoughts very much appreciated too!)

PokerStars bans him but decides to release his funds and pay him out anyways? Same thing could be said for Kristen Bicknell and Alex Foxen when they were banned from ACR and also both paid out... So yeah, as a decent human being, unless there is evidence to the contrary, you assume someone is innocent. Not the other way around. What a backwards way of thinking...

We have a skype group for it

To all the people saying this is anywhere close to comparable, I think you should read Pokerstars ToS first. Using simple preflop charts is allowed while playing. To quote Pokerstars website directly :

What this streamer has showing in the background is clearly some simple preflop ranges so well within the ToS.

How tf is it possible he has SimplePreflop open during playing when everyone gets a warning for Equilab, GTO+, HRC and other software?!

In which position do you wanna open K5s 100% and low Kxs at some frequency while not opening any suited Ace? You can clearly see that it's not an unopened pot in the bottom left, so whatever he did is forbidden.

Wouldn't actually matter if it'd be RFI charts either as the whole programm is forbidden if you'd follow their policy
"Category 2 – Prohibited only whilst the client is open
The following are prohibited only whilst the client is open:
1) Reference material that provides advice that goes beyond a basic level, such as a large
collection of tables offering recommendations beyond whether to play certain hands or not
in unopened pots.
2) Tools or services designed specifically to ease referral to reference material.
3) Tools or services that computes advanced equity calculations, such as range vs range
simulators, ICM or Nash Equilibrium-based programs." point nr3 (site 5, https://cmsstorage.rationalcdn.com/a...de-march-4.pdf)

You are wrong. Feel free to spend one minute and read the list here instead of spouting nonsense: https://www.pokerstars.uk/poker/room/prohibited/ (or the equivalent page of your country of residence)

why tf a pro needs simple preflop while playing? if he's not familiar with his preflop ranges how does he study postflop play? if he's not sure what marginal hands he wants to VPIP in what spot, he definately does himself more harm than good on most of the boards.

"Permitted Tools and Services that are Prohibited While Our Software is Running
There are some tools and services which have legitimate uses for analysing your game, but are not appropriate for use during play. As such, their use when any of our clients, apps or software are open is prohibited.

Typically, these fall under the following categories:

Reference material that provides advice that goes beyond a basic level, such as a large collection of tables offering recommendations beyond whether to play certain hands or not in unopened pots.
Tools or services designed specifically to ease referral to reference material.
Tools or services that compute advanced equity calculations, such as range vs range simulators, ICM or Nash Equilibrium-based programs."

https://www.pokerstars.eu/poker/room/prohibited/

There is a very clear list of software allowed to run along with Pokerstars while playing and SPF is in that list, as the prohibited functionalities don't work with the client open, according to Pokerstars. How hard can reading a page be? I think I'm done replying to you.

SimplePreflop is not on that list though?

Also "Note that these are examples only and this list is not intended to be exhaustive."

sad times for online poker. i am actually surprised though that games are still running. the real thing is cheaters in a mathematical game online cannot be stopped from doing what they are doing. they are almost impossible to identify if they are smart enough.

he was banned from stars recently and his mate's accounts are being investigated, those kind for investigation happens for something to do with multi accounting, Stars wouldn't just ban him for being gg pro, so the guy may not be as clean as everyone would think.

I would not doubt that there are more players using RTA. I really question if the sites can really stop the players from using it. The biggest problem is most people who will get caught are only going to get banned. I doubt any criminal penalties so it incentives the next person to try it.

Has Kruse responded to the averments yet?

Not a shred of proof that the two things are related, so yours and everybody else's speculation is extremely unfair.

It's like me saying that you might be a convicted rapist, purely because the police haven't yet confirmed that you aren't.

if he really was banned from stars, it's more like you saying that 1gambler might be a convicted rapist, purely because he is in prison.

Doesnt mean he is guilty of this particular accusation, but more likely than not he is banned for a reason.

That said, I dont even know who the hell that guy is, so...yeah no opinion here, just being nitpicky cuz you won a flip vs me once.

The bottom line is, news like this is just really bad for the industry. We won't see any articles written on 2+2 or p5's because if it slows online poker traffic, their traffic will slow also. It's all interconnected. It isn't something anybody wants to keep in the news.

As far as higher stakes players, they don't seem to mind. The only people getting bent out of shape are low stakes players. People in this thread don't seem to want to talk about the big issues here, like what is allowed and what isn't. Finger pointing and coming up with punishments seems to be the only theme here. It's sad.

This will be swept under the rug because the people who released the info have probably realized they've opened up a can of worms that they shouldn't have. A can that is going to do them more harm than any benefit.

As far as speculating on the ghosting of Buelero... he's affiliated with an online poker website. He will be contractually obliged to do whatever he agreed to when coming aboard, including staying quite in any type of possible controversy until the dust settles and they can spin a nice narrative.

Your logic is little flawed, if I am arrested, and they are taking swab at the girls down under, there very good chance I am arrested for rape.

as a fanboi you might not see it that way, but if the guy is banned and his mate's are asked to explain their relationship with him, pretty good chance its something to do with multiaccounting, and I didn't connect him to this case.

this is such a bad take. friend of cheater deletes video with said cheater, coincidentally he's banned for a few days from stars but he doesn't know why. i'm not saying easter is guilty of anything but come on, you really can't understand why people are asking questions?