And for a big chunk of profit it seems. Still no word from him?

What kind of snake roommates do you have to be to post on 2+2 against a friend like this? Holy **** that's such a disgrace. Deal with it in house you zero loyalty cockroaches.

hey fedor how are u? no need to make a new account just for this post

They should start by investing in a competent security team. Kruse´s rise should have been heavily scrutinized and yet he was able to cheat for more than half a year.

Additionally, Henri Buehler is still listed as an N8 ambassador after making 6-digits by staking Fedor. Not only has this money been stolen from the poker community, this is also a PR nightmare for GG.
Players are using RTA on their site and the main culprits are brand ambassadors of GG.

Server problems during the WSOP, a sketchy PVI system, RTA use by brand ambassador Kruse and the main profiteer is none other than N8 ambassador Henri Buehler.

I am not Fedor, I just value loyalty to friends and figuring out everything in doors to being an absolute trash human and outing something like this on 2+2. If I were fedor I'd post a defense of the action or some kind of counterargument. I wouldn't be shitting on the posters loyalty as that doesn't defend fedor in the slightest on the actual charge of cheating.

I am not taking a position on whether he cheated or not in my comment. Just saying that it takes trash humans to **** on a friendship like this.

didnt even bother to read the rest of your bs after the first sentence. can a mod just ban this obv fedor fanboi acc?

Haha this was about what I expected fedor to say in his first comments

You didn't bother to read my perfectly valid response because you, like the roommates, have no sense of loyalty for your friends or what? I am not a fedor fanboi either. In fact, I have never even heard of him or seen his stream before I learned about this stuff today from Bencb's video.

Can a mod please ban this obv roommate of fedor who betrayed their friendship?

You mean you expected Fedor (I am not) to not proclaim his innocence in his first comment? You must be using a solver because that's some next level first post by Fedor in that case.

I expected him to bash his roommates and avoid the questions as to wether or not he cheated

What on earth is there to gain from that lol? Some peoples sympathy on a 2+2 thread? The only thing that helps him is to answer the allegations. Take an L on this one buddy.

If your roommate is a rapist is it scummy to out him?

Your saying the room mates are trash for calling out a cheater? LoL what?

Guys don't feed the troll.... Would be great if a mod could clean up a bit, delete the last posts including this one.

It's not helping, just derailing the thread...

level 7 little
level 8 kruse
level 9 postle
level 10 absolute poker , ultimate bet

either way they're all cheaters. kruse and postle should be banned everywhere.

you can argue that little did it for max rakeback but most people who played against "him" might disagree about it being a quite small disadvantage.

1) Huds & RTA are Chalk & Cheese

2) Kruse had organized saved sims it's not an RTA by definition but essentially semantics and is essentially functioning as a manual RTA

3) I wouldn't be surprised if these RTA v HUD posts aren't distraction & misinformation from those concerned, derailing the thread

Agreed, please stop clogging up the thread with nonsensical debates nobody is here to read.

I'm convinced this entire thing is a ruse set up by Daniel Negreanu to deflect attention from his impending slaughter at the hands of Dog Pork.

I have to say as a recreational player that’s been playing for 10+ years this is pretty sad and disappointing however not surprising in the slightest. Everyone knew this would eventually happen, a lot of players like myself were just being in denial until physical evidence surfaced. I really have 0 interest in playing online anymore unless it’s a private game with people you know and trust. This also makes studying less appealing. Imagine the **** that must be going down on the Apps that are unregulated there is absolutely no doubt about this going on right now on a big scale across all platforms. As much as I hate to say it, RIP online poker cash games, won’t be long before MTTs will follow suit (might already be happening!)

^^ Pretty much word for word this.

Except you forgot to mention the laughable **** that most sites try to pass of as rakeback just to nail down the coffin.

Yep when I play live I’m always telling people not to play online for money that matters. The sad truth is as a casual player you are not getting a fair game and that’s the tragedy because as someone said earlier online poker is {was} a great game

**** the slimey regs and their software. Recs are right ...online is rigged just not the way they imagine

+1

I actually enjoy occasionally discussing tournament histories, solving hands and watching videos. But if there are people who are able to mimic solver play without doing any of that, ie play unexploitably and are unable to lose long-term, then all seems like a pointless exercise.

We still have soft mtt's for now, and I guess live will still be profitable for a very long time, but this is all certainly disheartening and discouraging. Especially considering that this is likely very widespread - I've actually suspected this of certain people I've spoken to who seemed poor when discussing strategy yet claimed they 'just play as close as possible to GTO' (as if it's that easy) when grinding high-stakes cash games.

I've also watched a large part of the Kanu7 Upswing course and the 'private solver' that he had developed seemed to have an absolute ton of saved boards with the solver action for such boards, that could easily be referred to in game. (disclaimer: I'm NOT for one minute suggesting he in any way cheated, but am suggesting that if that kind of private software is floating around then cheating in this Kruse fashion seems very feasible and easily done)

Then there is also a comment that the real cash game God (some know him as Sauce123, others as Ben Sulsky) made either whilst streaming on Twitch or in a Rio video whilst playing against the Pokerstars Elite, about the use of real-time software and that he hoped his 'old-man tricks' would still see him in good stead. He brought it up very briefly and then decided not to elaborate, but it was clear that he knew something.

The cliffs of all this being that even in my relatively little experience with Poker, I've encountered what I'd consider to be enough information to tell me that cheating is going on on a massive scale. That's aside from common sense stating the glaringly obvious: there are millions of dollars to be made at a game that can very largely be solved, and therefore OF COURSE cheating is going on on a massive scale.

This is where I'm at tbh

I mean, yes, sure.

On the other hand, posts like this were commonplace 10 years ago as well. Oborra happened years ago.

What was hyperbole/future gazing in 2010, is now the reality of 2020 imo. I'm a rec player that plays infrequently and I enjoy trying to compete (note: I largely can't). When I have time, I use Pio and run sims on interesting hands after a session, albeit mainly for intrigue rather than 'study'. But *even I* had the idea/insight that someone with little/no technical knowledge could get cheap preflop GTO ranges, run 67k sims (38 PF spots x 1,755 boards) on a chunky computer over a few months and devise a reasonable menu/filing system such that the solved outputs would be accessible in real time.

Basic GTO awareness/knowledge, solver access, computer power - all have meaningfully improved in the last decade. For these reasons the ability to do this in 2020 is game changingly different vs 2010.

It's not a massive stretch therefore to believe MTTs are in a simialr place by (say) 2025 and that live games/tournaments will start to require 'no device' rules by 2030.