http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...broke-1174183/
CLIFFS
Original post is by "$kill game", who states that he is owed $11k from Lindgren from a 2+2 Fantasy League draft. Payment was due about 3 months ago. He also states that "Kaj_Kyle" is owed $50k and "ahh snap" and others are owed as well.
$kill Game reports that Lindgren is claiming to be "cash broke" and is showing no signs of urgency in trying to make his payments.
Outrage at Lindgren and the Full Tilt pros in general follows, also discussion of how "live pros" are so often in debt, the intimation seeming to be that a lot of them just pass debts around.
People are annoyed that Lindgren is playing in the LAPC, in cash games, and is scheduled for more tournaments in the future but is not paying his debts.
"kaj_kyle" comes in to say that "a lot of others are owed $5k-$20k". "Ahh_snap" clarifies that he is actually owed $66k.
Ahh_snap also mentions that in the past Erick has typically paid about 5-6 months late on past debts. Ahh_snap says that he believes Lindgren will eventually pay.
"Admo" claims that Erick often avoids paying for golf bets with the "cash broke" excuse.
"bruck", who claims to be the commissioner of "3 dimes league", comes in to say that Erick also owes him and many more money and that while not paying promptly he has a track record of 5 years of league play where he eventually has paid his debts.
People discuss how he used to get somewhere around $250k a month from Full Tilt but was degen and didn't save much of his multiple millions and that now since the Full Tilt money isn't coming in this time could be different and that he is less likely to pay now than in the past.
"Interpleader" posts this history of emails (Interp in black, Erick in blue font) where Erick seems to be avoiding paying a paltry $2800:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpleader
Convo
Jan 11
Hey Man,
We had a sidebet in the $5,000 ppr. You owe me $2,800. I tried to use your email you had listed, but that didn't work.
best,
XXXX
Jan 11
hey XXXX what was team name?
Jan 11
Hey Erick,
The team name is XXXX
Do you prefer paypal or a check?
best,
XXXX
Jan 13
Can we work this out and get it finished? I settled up with everyone else weeks ago.
Thanks,
XXXX
Jan 17
i'm not trying to be difficult, but I am owed money and I would like it. The season was over a while ago. I don't really want to make this a painful process. We aren't talking about a lot of money here...
Jan 17
I apologize for the delay, holidays and now moving has tied me up timewise and cashwise. I will have it out to you as soon as i can, no later than next week.
Erick
Jan 17
Thanks
Jan 26
Hey, was this check sent out? Thanks, XXXX
Jan 30
I'm getting pretty impatient over this. $2,800....
I really don't want to make a big deal out this....
Jan 31
Sorry family was in town. Will get a check out to you tomorrow.
Feb 6
Just got back in town sorry. It went out today.
Feb 13
uh, i dont think it went out. Haven't gotten it.
Feb 15
This is my last polite request for a check for the money that I was owed 2 months ago. Paypal is fine as well.
Thanks,
XXXX
Feb 22
Hey Man,
I have been really patient and really nice. I'll give you until the end of the week to get my money or I'm sending an email our with our conversations to every poker player I know, posting on 2+2 and possibly hiring a lawyer.
Feb 24
Hey man just seeing your emails, sorry have been insanely busy with 3 month old, moving and getting back to playing. You have every right to do whatever you would like but i do promise I can get a check in the mail by tomorrow. I am in LA but have to go home tonight after poker to take care of some things. Hope that is ok.
Erick
Feb 24
Hey Man,
I have been really patient and really nice. I'll give you until the end of the week to get my money or I'm sending an email our with our conversations to every poker player I know, posting on 2+2 and possibly hiring a lawyer.
XXXX
Feb 24
I'm not trying to be a jerk, and I don't really want to be difficult. I just want a check. If you want to give cash to someone in vegas, that's fine too. Paypal is fine as well.
Feb 27
Was this sent or are you just enjoying your time in LA?
Today
Is this really happening? I'm a fan, been rooting for you for 10 years. I think it's cool to be in a fantasy league with you....and you are going to stiff me on 2k? It's a god damn check you have to mail out.
"klink10k" claims that he has messaged Erick multiple times and that his messages have been ignored (I assume he's one of the people owed money, though he doesn't say how much) and that other members of the league aren't paying their bets either, possibly "because Erick isn't".
"Sea Salt" talks about Erick being a degen and squandering an "income of around $3 million per year" and that he has always had this habit of taking a long time to pay debts, but that people still gave him action because he was so bad at fantasy sports, though others come in to say that he has gotten good at them lately.
When "BT2" asks where Sea Salt heard about Erick getting 250k/month from Full Tilt (hence the "3 million per year" income), "HemmaCuda" claims to have "heard a similar number" through the grape vine.
Cliffs up to date as of March 2nd @ 2:30 PST
Last edited by Kevmath; 03-03-2012 at 11:39 AM.