You owe someone itt $500 and won't pay.

"numbers don't lie" isn't a phrase about numbers on a screen, it's about math problems. Pay that man his money.

You lost the bet against Eric.

This you OP?
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...hargeback-scam

It's just so stupid that you would bet on the result of a fixed match. OP literally deserves to lose. He might as well be betting on ****ing WWE matches with the wrestlers in the matches.

but he clearly said he's not a doosh or a dick!

lmao@anyone bringing up their hendon mob.

I'm not sure I follow. Is this inclusive vs exclusive endpoints when using the word "between"? Between you and me, "between" can be inclusive or exclusive depending on the context.

Seems fairly clear OP lost this and fairly interesting to see previous claims of scamming against the OP?

How does drmr Batman punt over 200k in the worst spots possible to make this bet even close.. OP took a bad beat and now probably owes 10k plus the $500 bet.

Op wasn’t objecting to prop bets for the first 90% of the steam which would have been his best defense here.

Looks like OP went for the free roll and now posted about it and is potentially the one scamming.

The 80K number is the key number. If Eric loss less than that he wins. It’s pretty simple.

definitely tried to freeroll the maverick lol

that hand and table talk is hilarious btw

Are you suggesting that if the OP lost in a much more clear cut way, e.g. Eric finishes $100K up across both sessions, that the OP would have refused to pay out?

That would be a freeroll.

The OP either thinking he had won, and still thinking he has won, or thinking he had won, but now realising that he may not have, and not wanting to pay out for either of these reasons, is not the same as a freeroll, it's either he still thinks he won, or he is being opportunistic due to the unusual nature of events, including the possible prop bets factor.

I always buy into 1/2 games with $253.50. I feel like it gives me a big advantage.

Now that i think about it, op had 2 entire sessions to say something about those prop bets but only did so at the end when it was in his favor to do so.

Terms shouldve been agreed before the sessions. The only numbers that should be considered are the cumulative winnings of both days in the hcl stream.

Op even decided to hide the cumulative winnings of day 2 in his original post because it wasnt advantageous to him.

Your a scum op, pay that man his money!!!

But he's the fairest man alive just ask him!

It was kind of hard to notice how much was being bet on props. I’d be sort of pissed myself if the prop bets are what got person to even.

You basically agreed to believe Eric's word about the loss amount. If he says he lost less than 80k, you lost the bet. Sucks to lose a big bet with such a close call. Just pay the man his money and move on.

Ya it might be annoying but you better believe OP didn’t care about the siders one bit when he was up 300k+ on the bet.

This is why i don’t bet stupid prop bets, where the information is unverifiable.

I think OP has to either take Eric’s word and pay up, or try and get security footage showing EP was down more than 80k.

The show rounding errors does not mean OP won.

It’s crazy how close the bet was win lose or draw though.

Ya I’m saying OP may have freerolled here w no intention of ever paying.

I mean do we really think EP would waste his time if some random twitter guy welches over 10k. Op probably knows this and therefore was free rolling. Maybe not, maybe he’s the most fair guy ever.

Yeah the craziest thing is how close this was.

Probably explains why Eric got up for 20+ mins right after winning the hand. Even MJ was saying something to the effect of there should be a rule against getting up for half an hour right after u win a half a mill pot.

Though Eric did come back and play for a few more hands til end of stream.

After speaking with multiple peoples opinions I think the best option here is to run the bet back with clear guidelines, there are too many technicalities on both ends to swing on a final number.. I will offer him to run back a $15k bet for him to lose $90k or more depending on the size of the game next, all funds should be put into escrow .. for his next stream appearance scheduled session excluding all prop bets and for the scheduled time for stream.. extra time will not count .. if the stream is scheduled to run 5 hrs that’s it.. and we go based on the numbers provided by the stream.

The whole purpose of this bet was to prove to some egotistical guy that he was a -EV player and just a cash cow.. which I proved, that I am satisfied, all I know is if I lost 79.8 or 80k I would not be out bragging about that. I was never doing this to get clout as some say bc i don’t give a **** but I feel like i should have won and if your disagree idk what to say, I would never post these details and information if I thought it would ups hurt my chances of winning the bet, unfortunately many people want to go based on the information that was give. By his side and party but refuse to go by the facts of what information was available to both of us on an even playing field

Ok but can you at least apologize for calling him a scammer? Seems like most people’s verdict was no scam.

You are right about this..

And you crushed the bet for 95% of the game until that punt.

But technically you lost the best even though you were kinda right. The guy lost like 75k+ On 433 w 54o.

Wanting to run it back isn’t a great idea and makes you look like you lost even more now. It’s like robbi giving tHe money back.

You should just try and prove it’s over 80 or just accept defeat and move on.

Eric is the GOAT:

I think running the bet back is fine if money's in escrow and everything's clear, the whole prop bet thing was definitely didn't sit right with me

however OP I think you were being disingenuous by posting cummulative winnings for stream 1, and then stream 2 you choose chip count because it's the only way you could get to 80k, that's pretty lame

OP just got accused of scamming earlier itt why would Pearson run it back when it was likely he got free rolled the first time…

Nice, but what's up with my 500... I'm open for negotiations... I'll give 50% to a charity of your choice ...

^^