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Eric Persson: Native American, or Ashkenazi Jew from Sweden? Eric Persson: Native American, or Ashkenazi Jew from Sweden?

02-09-2023 , 04:38 PM
could Eric have a grandparent or parent on other side of family who was native?

are these Indian bands so small because they keep out people who aren't "pure native blood"?... Foxwoods or Mohegan money (or maybe both) is spread amongst a pretty small number of people.

it's funny... when the one poster was talking about "bridging many years of a family with few generations", I immediately thought of Hugette (sp?) Clark.

a few more interesting things about her and her father,

1) he was an 1860's or 1870's Montana copper baron.... think about that when you realize is daughter died in 2010

2) she lived in a hospital bed for many years for no apparent medical reason

3) she had an amazing property in Santa Barbara (I think it may be the best house/property there by far) and never visited it in 60 years...... ditto for a great property I believe in Newport, RI. zero or 1 visit in 60 years.... the servants at these houses even kept up the old cars, I think. although probably weren't registering/driving them. not sure about this part.
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02-10-2023 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
could Eric have a grandparent or parent on other side of family who was native?

are these Indian bands so small because they keep out people who aren't "pure native blood"?... Foxwoods or Mohegan money (or maybe both) is spread amongst a pretty small number of people.

it's funny... when the one poster was talking about "bridging many years of a family with few generations", I immediately thought of Hugette (sp?) Clark.

a few more interesting things about her and her father,

1) he was an 1860's or 1870's Montana copper baron.... think about that when you realize is daughter died in 2010

2) she lived in a hospital bed for many years for no apparent medical reason

3) she had an amazing property in Santa Barbara (I think it may be the best house/property there by far) and never visited it in 60 years...... ditto for a great property I believe in Newport, RI. zero or 1 visit in 60 years.... the servants at these houses even kept up the old cars, I think. although probably weren't registering/driving them. not sure about this part.
Who cares
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02-10-2023 , 12:43 PM
Trying to evaluate the demographics of someone based on discredited ideas about "one drop" seems pretty foul and unneeded.
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02-10-2023 , 06:02 PM
Nowadays it's ok for men to identify as female and play womens sports against actual females. Choosing to identify as a different race or nationality seems mild in comparison. Like in posts above talking about Elisabeth Warren, if you can do the same thing to try to get an advantage running for public office, why not using it to get into schools or run casinos. Once you open pandora's box, good luck picking and choosing what's ethical or not. Who crosses the line, etc.
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02-10-2023 , 06:46 PM
Much like Nick Vertucci, Eric is of very low moral character. With that said he cursed out Hellmuth and gets clicks so now he is celebrated. It's ok I don't watch neither.
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02-10-2023 , 09:14 PM
Interesting that in the court battles, the Indian band seems to accept that Eric is a member

Big controversy at at least 1 Canadian university about all this self-selection/ "tick off a box"
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02-10-2023 , 09:27 PM
Shouldn't a tribe regulate who they consider members of their community not an internet forum?
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02-15-2023 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hh13
So this is interesting... Eric Persson has long claimed to be a Shoalwater Bay Indian Tribe member. And he is a registered member. Yet Maverick Gaming is suing the United States claiming that the Shoalwater Bay Indian Tribe has an illegal monopoly on sports betting and gaming in Washington State.

Anyways, that got me digging on whether Eric Persson is an actual Native American. The results may shock you... or maybe they won't...

Eric Persson's grandfather is Hilman J. Persson, an Ashkenazi Jewish Swedish immigrant to the US in the late 1800's, and he married Eliza J. Armstrong, a famous Westport pioneer family. Hilman Persson's son, Fridolph Hilman Persson, is Eric's father. Eric's full name is Eric "Hans" Persson.

So I found ties to pioneer families from Europe, as well as Ashkenazi Jewish blood. But what I could not find was an ounce of Native American ties, besides the fact that they lived very close to the Shoalwater settlement in Hoquiam, WA.

Interestingly, Eric first registered as a member two years before attending Georgetown University Law School. I guess clicking Native American on those law school apps pays off.
there are a few state recognized tribes that dont necessarily require you to have a blood quantum ...most federally recognized tribes require blood quantum OR genealogical documentation to registered Native American ancestors ...Perssons tribe is federally recognized, so he must have some sort of ancestry
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02-15-2023 , 05:51 PM
This thread was really shocking to me because up until this point I didn't realize that jews owned casinos. Then I dug deeper and found that Howard Lederer had an honorary Kahnawake tribe membership and it all started to make sense.
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02-15-2023 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zrap
Nowadays it's ok for men to identify as female and play womens sports against actual females. Choosing to identify as a different race or nationality seems mild in comparison. Like in posts above talking about Elisabeth Warren, if you can do the same thing to try to get an advantage running for public office, why not using it to get into schools or run casinos. Once you open pandora's box, good luck picking and choosing what's ethical or not. Who crosses the line, etc.
Nah, that slippery slope actually hasn’t happened.
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03-21-2023 , 01:05 PM
Just watched a hand in which Eric P punted 300K with Ace high against a full house that Keating had. (see "Poker Player torches 300K Blind)" on Youtube) How bad is this guy at poker? Anyone know approximately how much this guy has lost since he has been on cash streaming. I think I'm starting to see that his poker playing ability matches his personality!
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03-21-2023 , 01:47 PM
You better be VPIP'ing 35%!!
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03-21-2023 , 01:48 PM
If you ask him it was just for fun. $300K means nothing. Will be interesting to see how short his stay is b3fore he has to sell at least some of maverick.

As to playing ability, imo his play is better than his personality but only because his personality is the nut low imo.
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03-21-2023 , 02:24 PM
Eric Hans Persson seems to be losing money like there's no tomorrow.

He also seems to have certain genuine unique skills, which may cloud his judgement on his own poker skills, leading hem to Huge Losses over an extended period of time.
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03-21-2023 , 05:18 PM
Eric Persson's specific definition of "winning" is "to show the world that he can lose as much as he can and it doesn't bother him". As long as he achieves that objective then in his mind he wins or has won or is winning, and is a winner.

What a beautiful target he is for the adequately financed expert pro who has access to his space. Too bad for Garrett, he is not this adequately financed expert pro any longer.
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03-21-2023 , 08:05 PM
Chuck Liddell is clear.
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03-22-2023 , 12:15 PM
Eric likes to brag about "owning 43 casinos". Here are pics of some of them:








(Google says closed but still listed on Maverick's website.)
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03-22-2023 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 18000rpm
Eric likes to brag about "owning 43 casinos". Here are pics of some of them:


(Google says closed but still listed on Maverick's website.)
Im sure 1 of his bingo hall casinos still makes more a year then you will in a life time.
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03-22-2023 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AAJTo
Im sure 1 of his bingo hall casinos still makes more a year then you will in a life time.
Seriously. If you have 43 of almost any type of income, you're probably doing quite well for yourself.

I grew up near a wealthy, country club section of town, so there were quite a few rich kids at my elementary school. One of the more well-to-do families owned the McDonald's (or maybe it was Burger King). As a little kid, that didn't mean much. When I got older, it dawned on me: how do they live like that running a fast food joint nestled in between a gas station and a crappy hotel?

Turns out, they owned dozens of franchises throughout the area. This is why their kids drove to high school in brand-new BMWs or whatever.
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05-17-2023 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SizzlerFTW
Eric Hans Persson seems to be losing money like there's no tomorrow.

He also seems to have certain genuine unique skills, which may cloud his judgement on his own poker skills, leading hem to Huge Losses over an extended period of time.

It's free money since his poker loss is most likely written off as marketing.

Draw attention, grow the brand, get more investors, easy money.
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05-18-2023 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by trifieldtf21
It's free money since his poker loss is most likely written off as marketing.

Draw attention, grow the brand, get more investors, easy money.
1. Marketing write off doesn’t work that way. Even if it did that would mean Maverick would retain winnings also and thus split with co-owner. But pretty sure your understanding of business finances and taxing is in error.

2. I am not an expert on Maverick Gaming ownership structure. But it is a LLC. EP has apparently a single co-owner (partner) and AFAIK is not seeking any investors.

So again, your statement doesn’t appear it is tied to reality.

3. As to the comment above about how much any one of his establishment makes in a year, you might be very supplied. If by makes you mean net income or profit after all cost, they are likely over estimating this for the lesser performing locations. Some are probably breakeven. They may have done better in the past or they may just be starting and will do better in the future, but at any given time certain locations likely struggle.

With 43 locations I am sure EP as co-owner is doing fine but WEB, Elon Musk or Bezos he isn’t.
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05-18-2023 , 06:46 PM
Is that the steroid guy who sucks at poker? If so, it's really not healthy to be doing drugs like that at his age. Cultural appropriation isn't ok either.
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05-19-2023 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 18000rpm
Eric likes to brag about "owning 43 casinos". Here are pics of some of them:








(Google says closed but still listed on Maverick's website.)
Eric is a whale at poker and not the most savoury character, it’s a cringe and annoying. He’s also likely got his money for his recent poker spewfest from the PP Covid loans as documented on Twitter he took like 20m of them, but maybe that was for the intended purposes of paying staff, nobody will know.

However knocking him for pointing out he owns 43 casinos with some look like run down slot halls, is still super impressive from a business POV, as someone else said having 43 of anything that is income producing is a great spot to be in. I’m in awe of anyone (in a business sense) who has the tenacity and grit to own a portfolio of anything, especially casinos. It’s not easy and to me a pretty damn impressive feat.
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05-21-2023 , 06:16 PM
If you are an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe, you are a "Native American." This is the definition of the term. If you want to become a "Native American," which has many advantages, it helps to make some friends in a tribe that doesn't demand a detailed pedigree.

Persson is obviously a sharp businessman despite being awful at poker. His "Native American" status probably has value to him for similar reasons that other sharp businessmen become citizens of places like Belize: it can lessen their exposure to regulation and taxes.
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