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Old 11-27-2019, 05:04 PM   #1
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EPT raising rake one week before the event

so apparently Leon Tsoukernik from Kings Casino bought the Atrium Casino in Prague. They now changed their cashgames from CZK to EUR, which i like a lot but not the other stuff that comes with it.

So one week before the event starts and people have already booked their flight and accomodation, the casino raises the rake for cashgames between 30 and up to 70%. For example previously 50/100czk (approx 2/4) the rake cap was 300czk (12) Now for a 2/5 game the rake is 20.

1 =25,5 CZK

Old rake table: blinds in czk/ min buyin/ rake
50 / 50 3,000 5% cap 300
50 / 100 5,000 5% cap 300
100 / 200 10,000 5% cap 500
200 / 400 20,000 5% cap 500
300 / 600 30,000 5% cap 500
500 / 1,000 50,000 5% cap 500
1,000 / 2,000 100,000 5% cap 500

new rake table:
2/2 PLO 100 5% capped at 20
2/5 NLH 200 5% capped at 20
5/5 PLO 250 5% capped at 20
5/10 NLH 500 5% capped at 20
10/10 PLO 500 5% capped at 20
10/25 NLH 1,000 5% capped at 25
25/25 PLO 1,000 5% capped at 25
25/50 NLH 2,000 5% capped at 25
50/50 PLO 2,500 5% capped at 25
50/100 NLH 5,000 5% capped at 25
100/100 PLO 5,000 5% capped at 25

They also take 2 out of every flop dealt for "staff". So the 30-70% rake increase is not enough yet to pay your own staff? They will be making at least half a million more in rake and they still can't pay their dealers.

At kings Casino in Rozvadov they charge the same rake as here now, but at least they dont charge extra for mandatory staff tip and they give you free food for tables with a rakecap of 25.

I think the correct way to handle this situation would be for the EPT to postpone any rake increases for after the event. People have been making travel plans according to old information and probably would like to keep it that way.
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:24 PM   #2
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

Thanks for the tables, I agree that the lowstakes rake change is unfair, announced this late. Also running it twice potentially costs you rake twice?

The 2/hand are totally pointless, they were there last year as well, but with the lower rake structure. Now it's even higher rake than at the kings, maybe most won't realize it...
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:20 AM   #3
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Would like to know sheriff rob`s opinion on this...
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:22 AM   #4
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

Thats amazing news.. because like Negreanu sayd "MORE RAKE IS BETTER"
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Old 11-28-2019, 06:18 AM   #5
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

Why do it a week before and not an hour before ?
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Old 11-28-2019, 11:02 AM   #6
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

It is a shame that the "Exclusive Interview" by Jack Stanton here didn't discuss the impact on poker players of this change

https://www.pokerstarsblog.com/en/ne...-prague/58821/
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:12 PM   #7
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Why do it a week before and not an hour before ?
That's usually how Pokerstars rolls...
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Old 11-29-2019, 09:19 AM   #8
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

Sounds like the casino is responsible for this, not the EPT.

EDIT: Yep - "We’ll be bringing in our own team—an incredibly skilled, trained team of cash game operators, while the tournaments will continue to be run by PokerStars."

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Old 11-29-2019, 10:42 AM   #9
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

I guess the new owner has to raise the rake in order to pay off his poker debts.
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Old 11-29-2019, 10:16 PM   #10
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

wow that rake is out of control
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Old 11-29-2019, 10:59 PM   #11
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

Sheriff Rob has not been giving his `honest` opinion yet as far as I can see...
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Old 11-30-2019, 12:20 AM   #12
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

More rake...more rakeback?
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Old 11-30-2019, 01:13 AM   #13
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Boycott
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Old 11-30-2019, 06:26 PM   #14
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

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Boycott
Tables are going to be full same as before.

Although I hate those changes, I'm going to play same number of hours as last year, same as everyone else.
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Old 12-01-2019, 09:27 AM   #15
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Good luck with that.
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Old 12-01-2019, 09:31 AM   #16
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

Shouldve increased rake more. They play anyways
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:32 PM   #17
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

lawl that is pure ****in robbery. scumbags all around
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:38 PM   #18
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Jesus I thought American rake was high.
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Old 12-01-2019, 01:52 PM   #19
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

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Thanks for the tables, I agree that the lowstakes rake change is unfair, announced this late. Also running it twice potentially costs you rake twice?
i scrolled back up to confirm that they're actually taking basically a buyin off the table every hour in the 2/2 plo game, and saw this^^

im curious if that's actually a thing that they're doing, would be a whole new level of just pure robbery
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Old 12-01-2019, 02:15 PM   #20
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

20 euro a pot for 2/5, lol. Why would anyone ever go there? I thought California was bad.
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Old 12-03-2019, 01:55 AM   #21
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

Ah, this sucks.

Boycott and publicly shame them!
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Old 12-03-2019, 01:03 PM   #22
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

I thought more rake was better? Maybe they need to increase it to one buyin per hand.
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Old 12-06-2019, 12:46 PM   #23
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Re: EPT raising rake one week before the event

They also increased staff fee from 3% to 4% in mtts up to $2K buyins
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Old 12-06-2019, 09:34 PM   #24
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Ah, this sucks.

Boycott and publicly shame them!
You millenials and your "cancel culture".
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Old 12-07-2019, 05:19 PM   #25
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Why do it a week before and not an hour before ?
I'm amazed they even announced it and didn't just start grabbing away.
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