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Old 09-16-2018, 09:29 AM   #201
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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What is up with all the right clicking he does?
Mac mouse problems I believe.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:19 AM   #202
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Is all the hate for him, because he's too liberal for an average NVG reader/poster?
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:45 PM   #203
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Is a liberal conspiritard even a thing?
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:18 PM   #204
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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Is all the hate for him, because he's too liberal for an average NVG reader/poster?
I think it is more jealousy due to his youth, less successful older players don't like the idea that someone younger than them can be so successful.


Still, it is funny to see them saying he is the one with problems, when they cant see they are the ones that are screwed up.
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:17 PM   #205
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Lol he's just not a very engaging streamer. I can sit there for hours watching Lex or Tonka or whoever but Charlie spends too long bleating on about crap that we're not there to see.
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:00 PM   #206
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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Mac mouse problems I believe.
Mac user and don't think that is the issue.

Seems more like an OCD thing
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:35 PM   #207
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Is a liberal conspiritard even a thing?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b046313fbc24f0
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:49 PM   #208
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Surprised to see someone actually giving Trump the credit for being able to come up with something like that.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:17 PM   #209
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He is certainly not a liberal, even though it is easy to stereotype him he does have thoughts and opinions of his own.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:20 PM   #210
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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Is all the hate for him, because he's too liberal for an average NVG reader/poster?
Not a fan of the tinfoil hat, the uninformed politics, and bogus pseudoscience.
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Old 09-16-2018, 09:18 PM   #211
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lol, touche!
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:38 AM   #212
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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Mac user and don't think that is the issue.

Seems more like an OCD thing
Maybe it's broken, he mentioned it on stream though.
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:54 AM   #213
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Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk's

Charlie probably goes through mouses regularly, the MTBF is like 100,000 clicks. So, one mouse every other month?

/jk
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:27 AM   #214
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His constant random mouse clicking is like shuffling chips at live poker or shuffling hand cards playing MtG, which is super standard. I guess he does it less the more tables he is playing.
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:20 PM   #215
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haven't watched any of the streams/vids, but what you're describing sounds like a manifestation of OCD that i share- i make weird triangular scrolling shapes with my mouse all the time as i think and in between hands.
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:52 PM   #216
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I think he's slightly obsessed with Hannah
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:55 PM   #217
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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His constant random mouse clicking is like shuffling chips at live poker or shuffling hand cards playing MtG, which is super standard. I guess he does it less the more tables he is playing.
Exactly.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:27 PM   #218
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click a mouse, lose your house bankroll challenge. Raptor would mouseclick a lot when he wasn't in hands, it's a habit of the gods.
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:31 PM   #219
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Watched an hour or two of his stream today while finishing up the grind. I have to say that despite him saying some intelligent things regarding GTO and beginners in the past, he is objectively pretty terrible at MTTs in many elementary aspects. I'm sure that he compensates for this in some areas, but I can say with 100% certainty that he would get creamed by any half decent reg who watches his stream if he keeps playing the way he does. My gut tells me that he's capable of adjusting but his ego is too big for that.

He's also an absolutely awful and utterly clueless human being.
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:24 AM   #220
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

I need a bigger sample on his z500 game to judge it actually. I think I was a bit too generous on it before. Is he going to be playing any z500 the future?
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:44 AM   #221
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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Watched an hour or two of his stream today while finishing up the grind. I have to say that despite him saying some intelligent things regarding GTO and beginners in the past, he is objectively pretty terrible at MTTs in many elementary aspects. I'm sure that he compensates for this in some areas, but I can say with 100% certainty that he would get creamed by any half decent reg who watches his stream if he keeps playing the way he does. My gut tells me that he's capable of adjusting but his ego is too big for that.

He's also an absolutely awful and utterly clueless human being.
I don't agree with this.

I can't really judge his skill set in mtt's, as I'm simply not qualified. But he's done quite well, even when facing the most elite players in the world, so despite my not being qualified to judge, I think it's safe to say that he's pretty ****ing good at mtt's. I still think he's a sun runner who has no business comparing himself to, or even critiquing Doug when it comes to cash games. But that doesn't mean that he isn't elite at mtt's.

I do agree that he's somewhat clueless and generally naive. I do hate when talks about mushrooms, politics, religion, or generally anything outside of poker. I tend to disagree with him almost every time, and I generally find his view on these sorts of things to be laughable. However, I completely disagree that he's an "absolutely awful" human being. He seems to be more the complete opposite to me, in that he seems to genuinely have only good intentions, although some might be a bit misguided and/or based in pseudoscience and "ridiculouslessness". He's young, but he's smart, he'll learn, in time.
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Old 09-18-2018, 01:54 AM   #222
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:54 AM   #223
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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Watched an hour or two of his stream today while finishing up the grind. I have to say that despite him saying some intelligent things regarding GTO and beginners in the past, he is objectively pretty terrible at MTTs in many elementary aspects. I'm sure that he compensates for this in some areas, but I can say with 100% certainty that he would get creamed by any half decent reg who watches his stream if he keeps playing the way he does. My gut tells me that he's capable of adjusting but his ego is too big for that.

He's also an absolutely awful and utterly clueless human being.
what evidence is there to suggest he is an awful human being? Just curious, ur post seem kinda harsh so you should back up that claim imo.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:25 AM   #224
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

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So after two hours you decided that he is pretty terrible?



You are just making an idiot out of yourself saying something like that.
Less than 10k games is still a pretty tiny sample at those high stakes MTTs. For every 1 Charlie Carroll who ran way above EV, there are 1000's of equally skilled/higher skilled regs who run at or below EV and make hardly anything.

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Old 09-18-2018, 04:41 AM   #225
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Decided to delete my post. Realized I don't want to waste my energy on this sheet people saying running over under ev when 99% they don't have any idea how he run or even played with him. Carry on.
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