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Epiphany77 starts a  to k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk's Epiphany77 starts a  to k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk's

04-11-2019 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagine
Can you specify who??
Considering he posted the exact same thing in the other Carrel thread, he's talking about Charlie.
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04-30-2019 , 06:03 AM
hes doing pretty good in ept monte carlo
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07-06-2019 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott7x



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‘Really soon’ huh?
Guys a joke.
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07-06-2019 , 06:06 PM
Im a bit gutted nobody took me up on that bet I had that he wouldn't be out of 25nl by the end of the year. Sad times. Looks like I could have gone lower to even 10nl and been good.
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07-06-2019 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Everyone is capable of changing, it's called neuroplasticity. It's been around for 1000s of years in methods of discipline and brain science is just getting into it.


This is where our brain science is at people, lagging behind by 1000s of years. If you compared it to medical science these cats are still blood leaching people lol.
I've studied moral psychology somewhat extensively, i read most of the papers released from the lab on moral psychology led by fiery cushman at harvard university, have read most textbooks on it, and have an overview of the differing perspectives of various cognitive scientists. It's a very new field as you say.

Compare it to linguistics though, something that is more developed as a cognitive science, someone with aphasia has lesions on their brain that affect language processing, they cannot ever recover from this with current medical science.

There isn't really much reason to think morality is that different, there are neuroscientific studies that show certain area's of the brain (dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, ect) are used for moral intuition and moral reasoning. And there are studies on people that have lesions in this area of the brain-that simply have pretty shocking answers to moral dilemna's, like "is it ok to kill your stingy boss?', questions like this.

But yes i think most people can be reformed, but it seems pretty unlikely for those that have brain damage. Not saying charlie carrol does, i definitely do not think he has brain damage. Just a personality that poker regs seem to hate.

There is very little mention of anything to do with neural plasticity in the field of moral psychology. Most of the neuroscientists/philosophers are interested in specific chemicals like oxytocin and how they operate. i don't understand your comment about plasticity though, 'everyone is capalable of changing', what do you even mean by this statement? Does this mean people can grow arms back if they want to because of neural plasticity? How about mental faculties.

The tweet about pedophiles makes sense to me, we should empathize with virtually everyone the best we can. Child abuse is often the result of oppressive socioeconomic conditions, so if we understand better how and why they commit their crimes, the root cause for at least some of their crimes can be understood and we can prevent it. I think people misunderstand empathy with sympathy though. Of course we should still put them in jail. Empathy is putting yourself in their shoes, it doesn't mean you like them. Arguably, a good torturer would have a lot of empathy because they can put themselves in their victims shoes and understand better how to maximize the pain and suffering.

Last edited by Stroggoz; 07-06-2019 at 07:22 PM.
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07-07-2019 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Halo_P1
Im a bit gutted nobody took me up on that bet I had that he wouldn't be out of 25nl by the end of the year. Sad times. Looks like I could have gone lower to even 10nl and been good.
I'm also sorry no one took you up on your bad faith scam propositions
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07-07-2019 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Halo_P1
Im a bit gutted nobody took me up on that bet I had that he wouldn't be out of 25nl by the end of the year. Sad times. Looks like I could have gone lower to even 10nl and been good.
Let's say someone took the bet you seriously believe there wouldnt be something about Carrel not playing the challenge? No wonder he didn't make past nl25 it's kind of hard when you don't play a single hand.
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07-07-2019 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Let's say someone took the bet you seriously believe there wouldnt be something about Carrel not playing the challenge? No wonder he didn't make past nl25 it's kind of hard when you don't play a single hand.
Wat?
Seems like Charlie took it seriously when he asked me to pool my momey with friends so I could make a bet worth his time (a random stranger in his YT comments)
Him playing is 1/2 of the bet. It’s definitley part of it.
He said multiple time he was going to finish it (very soon), some believed him, others didn’t.

Also he hasn’t mentioned it on social media or anywhere since he stopped playing. He’s just hoping people forget, which seems to be working.
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07-07-2019 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ajmf5
Idk why Charlie is so determined to be in the spotlight. He’s smart and could find more meaningful work outside of poker. Instead he preaches his “unique” life views to a toxic community, then gets sad when that community dooks on them.

He’s obviously on the spectrum, and at worst the guy is guilty of being very annoying, but with the level of hate itt you’d think he was guilty of a lot worse. I think he just wants everyone to be nice to each other, even Pedos apparently
Lol poker player and meaningful work are words that don't belong in the same sentence. Didn't he say he used to sell drugs in college. Honestly half these pros would have been doing something dodgy were if not for poker. Elezra,negreanu etc
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07-07-2019 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott7x
Wat?.
Ok let's try again. If someone takes the bet you offered you really believe there aren't any rules about Carrel not playing? Meaning you can't freeroll if he just decides this ain't worth it or some other nonsense.
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07-07-2019 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Ok let's try again. If someone takes the bet you offered you really believe there aren't any rules about Carrel not playing? Meaning you can't freeroll if he just decides this ain't worth it or some other nonsense.
I didn’t offer the bet, he did when I called him out months ago for stopping the bankroll challenge with no explanation.
Said it will be back ‘really soon’ but hasn’t mentioned anything about it since.
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07-07-2019 , 07:13 PM
if anyone wants to win the bet , figure an amount that will get his attention but when the reality of the work load of grinding it up is realized , the amount wont be enough motivation for him to finish. also give a dead line and make the dead line near a holiday or if you a sleuth find out personal info and pic an inconveniet time to finish by for him.

i seriously doubt he would grind from 2nl to 1k nl for 10 k or so.
Spoiler:
60% of the time , it works everytime.
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07-08-2019 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
if anyone wants to win the bet , figure an amount that will get his attention but when the reality of the work load of grinding it up is realized , the amount wont be enough motivation for him to finish. also give a dead line and make the dead line near a holiday or if you a sleuth find out personal info and pic an inconveniet time to finish by for him.

i seriously doubt he would grind from 2nl to 1k nl for 10 k or so.
Spoiler:
60% of the time , it works everytime.
The reason Charlie gave up on the challenge was that it taking too long. And the reason why it took too long beyond his expectations were because (i) the rake was a bigger impact than he initially expected (ii) his win rate was not high enough. And yes him not doing anything is part of the challenge. If you have a bet for someone running a marathon in a certain timeframe and they give up after 1 mile then it’s not void because “he didn’t bother finishing it so we will never know”. Similarly, him putting in a lot of volume, like for example only playing 2nl but still grinding up the roll and then playing 25nl immediately, is valid. So him not completing it is totally valid. The reason why he gave up is because he underestimated the constraints of the challenge or overestimated his skill edge. Potentially both.
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07-08-2019 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Ok let's try again. If someone takes the bet you offered you really believe there aren't any rules about Carrel not playing? Meaning you can't freeroll if he just decides this ain't worth it or some other nonsense.
This doesn't make much sense for a small stakes BR challenge. One of the main reasons people would be betting against him in the first place is the likelihood he won't bother continuing when things get tricky/he realizes it's a giant waste of his time!
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10-31-2019 , 01:40 PM
Does anyone know how the challenge is going? I'm not very interesting about him as a person, but I'm curious about the profits he can has using his style of playing.

Also, I saw some videos of his BR challenge today, but I noticed that he does not show the sessions graphics. So, how we can follow the progress, etc?
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10-31-2019 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Giovanni Dcs
Does anyone know how the challenge is going? I'm not very interesting about him as a person, but I'm curious about the profits he can has using his style of playing.

Also, I saw some videos of his BR challenge today, but I noticed that he does not show the sessions graphics. So, how we can follow the progress, etc?
He completed this like two months ago. Avg winrate was close to 12bbs/100 and the redline was crushing.
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10-31-2019 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
He completed this like two months ago. Avg winrate was close to 12bbs/100 and the redline was crushing.
??? he didnt complete ****
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10-31-2019 , 09:26 PM
Obvious trollpost is obvious
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11-01-2019 , 01:32 AM
This guy is intolerable.
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11-01-2019 , 02:38 AM
It's a really dumb challenge, $250 > $10,000 is a lot easier and it's way easier to save an extra $200 in real life money than torture yourself at micro stakes. No idea where this $50 number came from
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11-01-2019 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 4BetBoke
It's a really dumb challenge, $250 > $10,000 is a lot easier and it's way easier to save an extra $200 in real life money than torture yourself at micro stakes. No idea where this $50 number came from
Came from wanting to one up doug obvs
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11-01-2019 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 4BetBoke
It's a really dumb challenge, $250 > $10,000 is a lot easier and it's way easier to save an extra $200 in real life money than torture yourself at micro stakes. No idea where this $50 number came from
The (50 --> 250) leg is the easiest part.
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11-01-2019 , 04:04 AM
Hahaha mrno1324 got got

The $50=>1k will be the hardest for most top players actually
Doug spent ages on that at 4-7bb/100 (I did the very ballpark math back then)

Because the reality sets in that skill doesn't matter THAT much when you're pissing against the hurricane of 8bb/100+ rake and it's more about the time you have to grind out. At irrelevant stakes for you making you feel like you're wasting your time away.
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11-01-2019 , 05:28 AM
I’m as salty as a saltine cracker, amazing joke
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11-01-2019 , 02:46 PM
He honestly seems like a bad person
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