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Old 09-19-2018, 04:18 PM   #251
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

The overwhelming consensus seems to be that he's a great player. The hoopla is over things like claiming math is idiotic - and meaning it - and using Doug as a stepping stool for his new business.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:35 PM   #252
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Dude is sippin' Henny while your BB is a penny.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:10 AM   #253
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The overwhelming consensus seems to be that he's a great player. The hoopla is over things like claiming math is idiotic - and meaning it - and using Doug as a stepping stool for his new business.
where did he claim math is idiotic? I think charlie carrol values math highly...
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:56 AM   #254
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where did he claim math is idiotic? I think charlie carrol values math highly...
I'm not so sure... He had a short rant about variance where he laid out his belief that the energy state you assume with your mentality effects how you will run. He "couldn't give us his data points" and had to leave it at that, but I can only assume it's a quantum physics argument where he believes his current reality is interacting with what's going on in the 5th+ dimensions.

If that's his belief wrt variance I don't see why he wouldn't integrate the same ideas into his real time decision making at the tables rather than rely predominantly on math.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:55 AM   #255
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

He has a deep mind, and solves his positions in real time. He is more GTO than he wants to admit. I think his best message is to stay creative. He has lots of other opinions that are silly, however.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:58 AM   #256
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I'm not so sure... He had a short rant about variance where he laid out his belief that the energy state you assume with your mentality effects how you will run. He "couldn't give us his data points" and had to leave it at that, but I can only assume it's a quantum physics argument where he believes his current reality is interacting with what's going on in the 5th+ dimensions.

If that's his belief wrt variance I don't see why he wouldn't integrate the same ideas into his real time decision making at the tables rather than rely predominantly on math.
You don't have to believe in pseudo science to believe that emotional/mental momentum will work itself out into real world momentum. It's just basic human mechanics from the neuron to where the rubber meets the rode. It sounds like he's not that much into neuroscience and the like and doesn't explain himself well.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:44 PM   #257
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All the studies that have shown there is no such thing as momentum in sports disagree with you trying to rationalize someones quantum woo into something not worthy of mockery.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:49 PM   #258
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You don't have to believe in pseudo science to believe that emotional/mental momentum will work itself out into real world momentum. It's just basic human mechanics from the neuron to where the rubber meets the rode. It sounds like he's not that much into neuroscience and the like and doesn't explain himself well.
Sure, but he was talking about the card distribution.

I'm not hating btw, I have nothing against him and think he'll do well as a streamer. I'll just enjoy the comedy that will ensue from it.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:25 PM   #259
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I'm not so sure... He had a short rant about variance where he laid out his belief that the energy state you assume with your mentality effects how you will run. He "couldn't give us his data points" and had to leave it at that, but I can only assume it's a quantum physics argument where he believes his current reality is interacting with what's going on in the 5th+ dimensions.

If that's his belief wrt variance I don't see why he wouldn't integrate the same ideas into his real time decision making at the tables rather than rely predominantly on math.
Yeah I've noticed every time I get quads I'm really happy.
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:12 PM   #260
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Honestly watching some highlights from his stream, his play seems insane for high stakes:

Opening 85o on button, calling xr on k97 monotone board w 8h flush draw and then calling off
Xring Q4o on 2107k with only the 4 as the potential flush blocker if it comes in
3betting J10o HJ v MP

These aren't standard deviations and definitely not "exploits" in the sense of him having a read on a player or notes to back this up, it's just sheer lunacy.
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:07 AM   #261
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how can you have an 8 high flush draw with 85o on a monotone board?
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:48 AM   #262
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All the studies that have shown there is no such thing as momentum in sports disagree with you trying to rationalize someones quantum woo into something not worthy of mockery.
There's emotional momentum in everything we do. Just think of with someone with an optimistic outlook will have with serotonin, dopamine and nor epinephrine flowing thru their brain and the benefits they have over someone who is in a state of fear, depression or anger. You're literally intoxicated on another chemical and have differing momentum and outcomes with each.
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Old 09-21-2018, 05:13 AM   #263
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

I hear getting intoxicated on statistics is nice too. Clears up a lot of things in life actually.

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Old 09-21-2018, 08:08 AM   #264
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I think charlie just caought the top 1% variance troughout his mtt career.
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:23 AM   #265
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how can you have an 8 high flush draw with 85o on a monotone board?
board is Kh9h2h and you have 8h4s
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:25 AM   #266
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how can you have an 8 high flush draw with 85o on a monotone board?
Flop: Kh 9h 7h

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Old 09-21-2018, 08:46 AM   #267
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damn, i confused monotone for rainbow
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:23 AM   #268
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Yeah when the momentum is not going my way I just think positive thoughts and start getting dealt aces over and over.. I mean Jerry yang for example.. the cards are not random at all
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:46 AM   #269
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He has a deep mind, and solves his positions in real time. He is more GTO than he wants to admit. I think his best message is to stay creative. He has lots of other opinions that are silly, however.
In your opinion you may want to add.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:51 AM   #270
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

I like the stream but the constant right clicking every 5 seconds make it somewhat unwatchale... if it's OCD then just cut it out or you're not fit to stream if its mac issues then just fix it?
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:57 AM   #271
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damn, i confused monotone for rainbow
Don't feel bad, monotone doesn't make any sense for a three of a suit board, it's not like all of the cards sound the same.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:53 AM   #272
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

i watched his bankroll challenge video up until video 5 or so then he went full retard in a video und did this high voice talking like a child thing for like 50% of the video it was so annoying i havent watched him again
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:26 AM   #273
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Re: Epiphany77 starts a $50 to $10k BR challenge to show his methods are better than Doug Polk'

Some absolute R_Scientists up in this thread...
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:44 AM   #274
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I like the stream but the constant right clicking every 5 seconds make it somewhat unwatchale... if it's OCD then just cut it out
That's not how OCD works.
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:14 PM   #275
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In your opinion you may want to add.
there are plenty of opinions that are objectively silly

Hillary Clinton is a reptilian from the Illuminati base on the dark side of the moon
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