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08-08-2018 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by R*R
This is the last discussion on this. Nothing is being censored. It is just being asked that any discussions of a political nature be done in the politics forum. Maybe you could start the topic there if you are interested in continuing the politics discussion.
lol buddy the result is that his political statement gets to stand without opposition in this thread because nobody is allowed to respond.

I'll bow out, but I think you can see the incongruity of a bold political pronouncement in the OP and banning anyone from mentioning it in the same space.

Last edited by R*R; 08-08-2018 at 04:36 PM.
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08-08-2018 , 02:29 PM
I don't totally disagree with you but that is the best we can do here. Sorry about that. Also, I didn't say anything about bans. I am just asking for a bit of courtesy towards PokerCast and following the no politics rule in NVG.

Crosspost the OP to the politics forum and go for it

Your and my posts will be the last posts allowed on the politics situation in this thread. Complaints can be voiced in the moderation thread and, as mentioned, the politics discussion can continue in the politics forum.
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08-08-2018 , 03:38 PM
Xposting from the thread in our forum:

Hi all,

First, I want to thank Mason for his very kind words in his post above. I can't imagine having a better working relationship with someone than I've had with him over the last ten years.

I know some don't like his gruff personality, but I'm here to tell you that he's one of the most generous men I've come across. We had a partnership that over the years amounted well into seven figures, all on a handshake. I never once doubted his honestly or his commitment to allowing Mike and I, later Terrence and I, to take the show in whichever direction we felt was right. The early years were very rewarding financially and as Mason pointed out, the meddling democrats and Black Friday changed the financial situation of our sponsorship. When times were tough, Mason was there to offer me a salary from his own pocket to try to find other sponsors and keep the show going. He didn't have to do that and he would never tell you he did, that's what I mean by generous.

As I said, he let us do basically whatever we wanted with the direction of the show. Understand how difficult that is for him. He has a website worth millions and he's letting two guys with very different views on everything from politics to poker teaching and general decorum say whoever they like on a podcast going out to thousands of people. For example, you won't ever hear him swear, but he accepted that we were going to even though it reflected on his brand in a way which he likely disagreed with.

A few other people I want to thank:

1. Mike Johnson. The show would never have been born without a proven veteran of talk radio. Mike is a true professional in everything he does and he taught me from day one how to go about planning and executing an entertaining product. I'd like to think I filled in the lead host role seamlessly after he left, but we all know that's not the truth. MJ is one of my best friends to this day and I can't thank him enough for all he did for me and the show.

2. T Chan. After MJ left, I don't think the show would have survived if T didn't take over the other host role. It was an easy transition as we were already close friends and knew we would get along, but Terrence constantly challenged me to be as good as he is whenever the mic is turned on. Thanks T!

3. Ross Henry. After our boy Bunner left the show, again I don't know if we would have continued if it weren't for Rosscoe. He innovated constantly, adding drops and suggesting segments that kept the show as fresh as it could be. Following his poker career and day to day adventures was fun for all of us. When I think of excellent podcast producers I think of Ross, Bunner and Shronk. Thanks Ross!

4. Mat Sklansky. Matty is a great human and I love him to death. One of the most easy going guys you'll ever meet, Mat was always there to help when something had to get done. Also, if you need a tour guide for the worst casinos in Vegas, he's your guy! Thanks Matty!

5. Steven McGloughlin. As Mason said, Steven was there at the beginning and had the vision to see how this show could make money. We don't see eye to eye on pretty much anything, but Steven is another person that was absolutely integral to the genesis of the show and it likely wouldn't have happened without him.

6. Our boy James Bunner. I miss healthy James so much. He was a great friend and was as focused on enjoying life like nobody I've ever come across. If you didn't have fun when you were out with Bunner, something was wrong with you. So many great memories, I'll cherish them all till I die.

7. Our favourite guests! If I try to list them, I'lll likely forget some so I'm not going to do that, but you know who you are!

8. Most importantly, our loyal listeners. The dedication to the show always humbled me. People that listened to every show, sent emails and tweets gave us a reason to keep going and improve on what we were doing. To each and every one of you, thanks so much!

As far as show 499 or 500, anyone that has listened to the podcast knows how much I dislike "best of" or milestone shows. It feels so much like patting ourselves on the back and it's just not something I've ever been comfortable doing.

Who knows what the future holds, but I will look back on my time hosting a podcast at 2+2 with nothing but fond memories.

Lots of love,
Adam
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08-08-2018 , 04:06 PM
LOL, more meddling claims. I know you guys are upset with Black Friday - we all are - but your anger couldn't be more disdirected. Nevertheless, thanks for the all shows and good luck with your future endeavors.
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08-08-2018 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
LOL, more meddling claims. I know you guys are upset with Black Friday - we all are - but your anger couldn't be more disdirected. Nevertheless, thanks for the all shows and good luck with your future endeavors.
Holy mackerel you guys are super-sensitive to the tiniest political statement.

Thanks for the well-wishes and for listening, it's been a great run!
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08-08-2018 , 04:51 PM
Wow, I can’t believe this day has come, I have been a poker podcast junkie since 2010 and this was the show I always looked forward to - saving it for the times I could actively listen. Savoring it on my flights to an from my Vegas poker vacations. When MJ left, i was sad and didn’t think the show would survive, but I was elated to see the chemistry that Adam and TChan had. And adding Ross in the mix was awesome. I have recently been trimming my podcast list down to only a few that really added value to my life... and this was the crown jewel of all of them. I felt like a family with you guys, even going to your meet up at the SouthPoint a few years ago and contributing a witty intro a while back. It’s probably just as well that you don’t do an episode 500 so I can always hope that it will come one day. Thanks for all the good times and laughs. I hope to hear from all of you in the future. In the meantime, I will probably go back and find the episodes prior to when I jumped on and relive those by-gone days of the post moneymaker/pre-black Friday boom. Thanks again for all you have done for me personally as a recreational player and poker fanboy!
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08-08-2018 , 05:19 PM
499 PokerCasts is so tilting..too bad you couldn't do one more for an even 500..
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08-08-2018 , 08:54 PM
havent missed an episode in about 5 years. sad to hear, thanks for everything.
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08-08-2018 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GermanGambler
Mason, will you be part of the show ? Please join and take that Sklansky dude with you
I would listen to this (it would cut costs too).
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08-09-2018 , 07:53 AM
I've listened to every podcast, but all 499 of them and that works out to be about 52 days of solid listening. Thanks for all the good work.
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08-09-2018 , 12:53 PM
Such a sad day, poker media won't be the same without. Thanks for all the good episodes!
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08-09-2018 , 03:11 PM
Imagine trying to blame this on black friday in 2018... All the same thanks for all the good times! Can we atleast get the soundboard posted now
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08-09-2018 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
There was 2+2 podcast?

this
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08-09-2018 , 03:50 PM
Started listening from the start. Missed lots since T Chan came in (not because of him - just lifestyle changes meant I couldn't listen as much).

Kept me entertained on many a torturous train journey to work or my favourite way - during a trans-Atlantic flight to Vegas.

Thanks to all involved for one of the best poker shows ever made.
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08-09-2018 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
There was 2+2 podcast?
“He’s missed it! How on earth has he missed that?!?!”

Sorry, couldn’t resist. So many drops will play in my head forever...

“The most you can bet or raise is the size of the pot”

“And you think I care”

“... bringing the funny...”

“Mash-sha-tay “

etc, etc...
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08-09-2018 , 06:09 PM
"He won a poker bracelet"
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08-10-2018 , 01:58 AM
just!
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08-10-2018 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
"He won a poker bracelet"
I find myself saying that drop throughout the WSOP coverage whenever they mention a past bracelet winner.

Of course, I still self-drop Thomas Wahlroos' "The Asians" and the old "pooooocket eiiiights" from PokerWire/PokerRoad. So yeah, I'm weird that way.
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08-11-2018 , 03:48 AM
Thanks for your work over the years guys, gonna miss it.

Any other poker podcasts recommendations anyone?
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08-11-2018 , 12:06 PM
Why not do the milestone 500th episode.
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08-11-2018 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by *CHOMP
Why not do the milestone 500th episode.
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Originally Posted by AdamSchwartz
As far as show 499 or 500, anyone that has listened to the podcast knows how much I dislike "best of" or milestone shows. It feels so much like patting ourselves on the back and it's just not something I've ever been comfortable doing.
Already answered.
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08-11-2018 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
This got me curious.

Sam Rice retired after reaching 2,987 career hits. Sam Crawford (who I often mistake with Sam Rice) had 2,961. Both players came from an era that predated 3,000 being considered a historic milestone. Frank Robinson (2,943) and Barry Bonds (2,935) are more recent players who probably could have reached that circle, but didn't.

MLB's other vaunted milestone, the 300-win club, doesn't really have an equivalent. Bobby Matthews could not have known in 1887 that his final win total would have sat on the cusp of arbitrary round-number greatness. Meanwhile, the ironically named Early Wynn hung around a tad too long trying to get there.

Lou Gehrig and Fred McGriff each stopped at 493 career home runs. Gehrig had a doctor's note, though. Meanwhile, the Crime Dog lives on as an avatar here on 2+2 somewhere (can't remember who).

Rocky Marciano retired with a 49-0 record. Oh if only there existed his generation's version of Conor McGregor to get him to that even 50, but noooooo.

In the National Handegg League, Randall Cunningham threw for 29,979 passing yards. Not that there is any real celebrated cutoff for 30K in the way MLB holds up 300 wins or 3,000 hits. But still. Probably would like one of those third-down quick kicks back.

Eric Moulds ended up at 9,995 career receiving yards. And looking at that list, it dawns on me that 10K in that category doesn't seem as impressive now as it did when I was a kid. Figure that Don Maynard was the all-time leader back when I first started following sports. Now, he ranks 28th.

Clinton Portis logged 9,923 rushing yards. The crazy part is that he seemed destined to end up in the all-time top 10 until he got slammed by the injury bug. So in a different way, he's lucky to have flirted with the 10K list at all.

Moses Malone retired at 29,580 career points. Then again, he split that up between two leagues, so he wouldn't have thought of nearing any type of milestone. Similarly, Artis Gilmore wrapped it up at 24,941 points between the ABA and NBA.

In 16 years in the NHL, Glenn Anderson netted 498 career goals. He should have borrowed a page from Lanny McDonald, who finished right at 500. By the way, when Lanny used to get announced, the older fans always heard "Yaurel."
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08-12-2018 , 12:23 AM
one of the greatest poker pods ever - all good things must come to an end sooner or later.
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08-12-2018 , 08:01 PM
great show and great job @adam and mj
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08-13-2018 , 01:57 AM
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