What I would actually like to know is in the interview she said something like she would keep Nagy in check if he did something inappropriate. Joey should have asked for examples of that happening..

She had already sold her soul to nagy so 10k seems more than needed. Not like she had any negotiation power.

Dude she got freerolled for like 10k at most 20k. It's a ******ed take to say she's priviliged for that.

"Most Black and Hispanic Families Are Less Wealthy than the Typical White Family. Using SCF data, we evaluated family wealth and found: A typical (median) white family owned about $184,000 in family wealth; A typical Black family owned $23,000"

Say she got lucky or didn't deserve it, saying someone who recently was on food stamps is priviliged it's brain worms.

Come on man.

It takes some insane mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion that a person with no poker skill playing in a $200,000 buy in poker tournament is not privileged. You also have no idea how much she had of herself, you are just conveniently choosing very small amounts to support your narrative.

Like come on.

After reading this thread, I learned today that Ebony Kenney is black. I honestly didn’t know that..

To me the ACR shilling is the worst offense.. you pretty much can no longer be a sjw once you align yourself w nagy.

It would be interesting to know her ethnic make up.

Much of "white society" does tend to perceive anyone whose appearance, skin tone or hair has some or any African ethnicity features that are black, to be a person who is "black".

This is illogical really, because many people in this group have a majority of white ethnicity in their genes. It is a complex subject because a lot of it is about white people's perception of people of colour, and not about the reality of the actual ethnic background composition of the person.

There are many Jewish poker players, and if you want to look at ethnicity and colour through the lens of absolute ethnicity and DNA, you could argue that some Jewish players are as "black" or nearly as "black" as Ebony Kenney (on the assumption/guess that she might have say 20% African heritage), because many Jewish people's heritage is from darker skinned people of the Levant region, and then over the centuries that DNA became mixed in with the DNA of lighter skinned groups of people.

Personally, I wish we could just ignore colour all together. It is a very divisive topic that never results in any good and which mainly deflects away from other very important issues that affect all people.

I am white, but fwiw, I think that on balance "white" people as a total world population group are inferior to "black" people as a total world population group, judged/based on a combination of all history that has ever taken place and the present.

this post wins the thread ez game

She wasn't on food stamps bc of sexism or racism GTFO with that bullshit

She was on food stamps bc she was trying to play poker for a living ,an endeavor most people fail at and she couldn't cut it. Plenty of white males have tried to be poker pros and failed also.

This forum is filled with white guys who have tried to be poker pros and failed including some who vlog about it.

I don't even care that she sold her self to ACR- we almost all would for the right price.
But then she acts offended when she gets called an ACR schill.

I bet dollars to donuts Ebony isn't the name her parents gave her

The woman in the chat didn't even call her a bitch she said women can be bitches

yeah I watched the whole podcast just to see what happened there and it was definitely peak snowflake moment for ebony lol

Imagine a white person named Ebony 😂😂😂. God this thread is an abortion.

I’d like to think as the poker ethics I could refuse selling out to nagy… but you’re probably right everyone would take the money. It’s very easy for me to say I wouldn’t given the fact I would never get an offer in the first place.

On Trustpilot for ACR a very high percentage of people who left a review are saying that they think the site is rigged in some way, that the RNG is not actually random.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/americascardroom.eu

I compared this to Trustpilot reviews of the other major poker operators, all of which also have a very poor overall review rating (apart from GG whose score is higher) but all of these other sites only have a small % of reviewers whose complaint is about the site being rigged.

We all know that review sites attract the extremes, i.e. people will usually only take time to write a review if they are either extremely happy or extremely unhappy, so therefore you might see a chunk of one star reviews of a company but that company might still have 95% of customers who are satisfied or not dissatisfied enough to leave a bad review.

However, when we make the direct comparison between Trustpilot reviews to the other major sites and look for a pattern of types of complaints, then the likely 95% of customers who for whatever reason have had no interest in writing a review becomes an irrelevant figure.

I have no idea whether the RNG is truly random or not on ACR. If it isn't then it could be rigged to either help specific real players and/or help specific bots, or to juice the game up so that more money goes in the middle, pots are bigger than if the RNG is truly random, and more rake is produced.

As I said I am not alleging that the RNG is sus, but many are on Trustpilot for ACR but comparatively very few are on other major poker sites' Trustpilot reviews.

In conclusion, with the data just described, plus the allegations that some well-known poker players have made about unfair bots being on ACR, then if as a poker player you are aware of this and still take the dollar to be an ACR sponsored pro, then you might just be someone whose morals were less than great before you took the sponsorship, or they were great before you took it but you have knowingly sacrificed some of your morals.

Here is the list of current ACR sponsored pros:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/acr-pros/

Here is the page about RNG on their site:

https://www.winningpokernetwork.com/..._26Jun2020.pdf

Is it possible for any poker site, not ACR specifically, anyone, to have their software tested for true RNG, get it signed off and certificated as legit, then when the inspectors have left, sub in a different software?

I mean if I was set for life I wouldn't
But there's definitely a number where I would
And that number is a lot higher than it would have been when I was 20 and broke


I totally get her taking the money,but don't get her acting all offended when called out on it

I for one think only black trans players should be able to ask Ms. Ebony what % she had of herself.

And Ebony keep killing it QWAIIN! ... putting your butt cheeks and stretch marks and masturbation hobbies on big tech platforms is such a defeat of the cis white male patriarchy!
Slayyyyyyyy QWEEEEUNNN

This woman is one of the least deserving people to have a thread dedicated solely to her. Just delete this entire thread, please. You guys are just enabling her crazy, narcissistic ass.

So what you're saying then is that you are corruptible.

I don't think that she had any option other than to answer, when asked why she would promote a site that many people allege has issues that could be bad for players "well I always warn players that on ACR, or any site, do not leave any more money on the site than you can comfortably afford to lose, because bad things can happen, things can go wrong, on any poker site".

I mean this is a clever answer, it's on as high a level of squash and kill the interviewer's accusation/objection in an evasive and slippery fashion, as any top politician would reply.

So then when Joey was not having it, not prepared to accept this politician's type reply, he pressed her on it.

When politicians are pressed like this, they just repeat the answer, or they swap a few words around in their answer, but the answer still retains the exact meaning of the previous answer.

She could not do this because it would have come over as being blatantly *very* evasive, so instead she chose to quit the podcast and then go on Twitter and claim that she was being unfairly attacked, and saying "what about Doug Polk, look what he did", "so why pick on me and not him".

Politicians do also use that last tactic as well, either citing that a previous party in power did far worse things or that other countries' governments do far worse, or not as well as we (the politician being questioned) are doing. (even though we are doing terrible, which of course they don't add or admit.)

So Ebony Kenney entered into the same kind of deflection and spin that many politicians do, when they are either caught out doing something bad or wrong, or where the facts of a matter are brought to their attention.

Politicians have the advantage too, that she didn't have, of knowing that the interviewer has a tight, limited amount of time to question them, so in cricket terms, the politician can "play for a draw" by repeating the same answer and eating up the clock. Ebony Kenney couldn't do that, Joey had time or was happy to create extra time, which is likely why she semi-rage quit the pod, because he had her cornered, in an interviewer v interviewee sense.

I don't think she is a bad person, she is just very typical of a lot of poker players (I mean even borg23, who until a few posts ago I had never seen post anything, anywhere, that is unethical has openly said he is corruptible) are extremely money focused, and this can sometimes throw their moral compass all over the place.

For this reason alone, Ebony Kenney should probably not lecture anybody on any topic of any significance, as she has lost too much credibility to be claiming the moral high ground.

If those reviewers on Trustpilot of ACR are correct, then it wasn't Phil Nagy who put Ebony Kenney into the Triton tournaments, is was those reviewers plus other players like them that put her in.

Lol, stumbled upon this thread. I have played with Ebony years ago. She was very annoying to play with. Constantly on her phone, rude to other players, tells everyone she's a pro (LOL!!!!!), unattractive/nasty (IMO) and NOT a winning player at cash. Of course, typical 2+2 just looks at dumb donkament results and automatically assumes someone's good. I wouldn't bet a dime that she could beat a 2/5 live cash game. When someone binks a donkament or whatever my response is WHO CARES!

Obviously this is anecdotal and knowing all the tropes about everyone saying every site is rigged, and having played online poker on virtually every major poker site since the paradise poker days, I never really got a strong conviction this was true until America's Cardroom. Never played there for any significant amount of money, but played a decent enough sample size to believe something is going on there. I'd love to see if anyone has done analytics on a wide scale on ACR. This is not to say Ebony is in on it (any more than Hellmeuth was in on the Ultimatebet scam).

Another of Joey's questions that Ebony gave a politician's style answer to, was when he asked her (words to this effect), "how do you square working for an organisation where its CEO has been accused by multiple women of making crude remarks to them and making them feel uncomfortable, when this is a very similar thing to what you said (allege, DNegs denies the allegation) Daniel Negreanu did to you?"

She responded by saying that, (again words to this effect), "We all make mistakes, I've made mistakes myself in the past, but everyone should have a chance to improve to be a better person, and I assure you that if he (Phil Nagy) has done or ever does do anything like these things, I will be right on it, and will tell him to own his own sh** and to be a better person."

Well, this is exceptionally close to the answer that a politician gives when a prominent fellow party member, or members, does something bad or wrong.

Interviewer: "Tell me Mrs Smith / Mr Jones, when you heard about what your party colleagues had been doing, why did you not immediately resign from the government".

Politician: "Well, Bill / Emily / Bob/ Melissa, I feel that I can do much more good from within the party and within government to help persuade my colleagues to make the necessary adjustments and policy changes, than I would be able to do from outside of the government."

Two of Ebony Kenney's oft used phrases are "own you're own sh**", and "be a better person".

IMO, if you want to follow your own advice and your own principles, you should resign your position as an ACR sponsored pro with immediate effect.

Btw, I get it, they approached you (I assume it was that way around) during or shortly after the lockdowns, you were mainly a live player and your ability to earn a living and support yourself and your family had therefore been greatly reduced, so the offer from them was a welcome one and you accepted it.

I also agree with other posters ITT that you earned that offer by working hard in the poker world, it is just that the offer happened to be from a company who many people have big doubts about, including one of the most respected people in poker, Joey Ingram, who is also a long term friend of yours.

Let's also give you the benefit of the doubt, that at the time of the offer you were mostly a live player, so you had no knowledge or only a limited knowledge about ACR.

Okay, fair enough, if this was the case then you did nothing wrong at all, apart from perhaps not quite enough due diligence of them.

But now, you surely must know, or suspect, that a lot of the things being spoken about ACR are either fact, likely, or possible.

So now that you do know, do the right thing, "own your own sh**", and "be a better person".

I'm a big Ebony fan.

I enjoy her streams, watching her Triton runs was awesome. It's been a minute since I've excitedly followed closely and been rooting for a player. This should give her so many new opportunities, it will be fun to watch. Unfortunately the Daniel thing has gone so wrong. I have no doubt he stared at her, but respectfully she would of been like 20 something girl sitting down a poker table, likely looking super stylish and unique. Ya, people are going to stare. Upset / disappointed, fine, out of line? sure. But this is pretty light. Now both of them trying to show receipts, just cringeworthy now. Todd Witteles podcast broke down the timeline of actual facts. She needs to let this go, so many positive life moments ahead of her. I'm rooting for her.

The end of the interview was hard to watch. Once she realized how stupid she sounded, she had to end the interview to save face. And while ending the interview she had to make it seem like Joey was being offensive when he was trying to make SOME sense of her nonsense.

I wish I could say that this was out of the ordinary but its quite typical with women nowadays smh. Not the majority of women. Just the attention seeking SJWs looking for men to step on so they can make themselves feel important.

And calling white people white is illogical - the fact that you feel white people specifically do this more than blacks is very odd. You seem prejudice towards white people and carry a lot of white guilt - you've been brainwashed by social media. I do like how you refer to Jewish Poker Players - Judaism is a religion not a race. The fact that you feel any race is superior is pathetic - sad stuff.

Any relation to Bryn Kenney?

-Same haircut
-Both kinda shady