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09-15-2022 , 11:58 PM
You people are really saying the quiet parts out loud.
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09-16-2022 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If she wants to get stakes and sponsorships by sexualizing herself, that's fine, but if you're going to take that line, you can't complain when people don't respect you.
Wow.
Why wow?

Have you stopped to consider how a man would be treated if he wore a fleshlight around his neck at the poker table, and talked about how he liked to masturbate? Do you think that dude would get loads of respect from his peers? Would women feel comfortable around him?

Why should it be any different for women? Equality, right?

It's her right to wear whatever she wants and project whichever image she pleases, but you can't do stuff like that and then demand everyone's respect and admiration.
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09-16-2022 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_Druff
Why wow?

Have you stopped to consider how a man would be treated if he wore a fleshlight around his neck at the poker table, and talked about how he liked to masturbate? Do you think that dude would get loads of respect from his peers? Would women feel comfortable around him?

Why should it be any different for women? Equality, right?

It's her right to wear whatever she wants and project whichever image she pleases, but you can't do stuff like that and then demand everyone's respect and admiration.

Ding ding ding ding we have a winner.
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09-16-2022 , 01:06 AM
Blocked by both but guessing that jennjacob,Rachel Lee stinks twitter accounts are having a field day with this ****, about men being arseholes etc blah blah blah ��
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09-16-2022 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_Druff

Have you stopped to consider how a man would be treated if he wore a fleshlight around his neck at the poker table, and talked about how he liked to masturbate?
Every single day.
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09-16-2022 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fish & chips
She was on food stamps 5 years ago, but go on borg23...
While I'm not surprised a "poker pro" who isn't good at poker has been broke,she just played in a 200k tournament someone put her in so my point stands.
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09-16-2022 , 01:56 AM
I have no opinion of or exposure to Ebony Kenny, but those posters claiming that women “just don’t like strategy games”, or “will never make up more than 20%” of the poker field are just flat our wrong.

Women compose the majority audience of several strategy games, just not the ones that people on a poker forum like to pay attention to (e.g. mostly more casual games Candy Crush or Words with Friends).

But more directly, women did compose more than 20% of the live poker pool in the past. I was not around in the 1970s, but my impression is that during the period, the player pool in popular poker rooms was about 30% women. This is supported by media depictions of poker during this time (e.g. the movie California Split) and the recollections of the people who were active in this era (including Mason Malmuth several times on this forum). Developments in the poker community since then have actively driven women -away- from the game.
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09-16-2022 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_Druff
You guys are getting off topic. Let's keep the affirmative action and racial debate out of this thread.

Anyone looking at the various Twitter threads about this subject? Very different conclusion than we are getting from this thread.

People are overwhelmingly on Ebony's side, and are bashing Joey as being a jerk who was unfair to her. Lots of people are insisting that any critics of Ebony are simply misogynists who don't understand the struggles of women in poker in 2022.

Yuck.

I really dislike when toxic (and often privileged) people hide behind a claim of oppressed status to behave badly. You just got a massive stake to play a huge event because of your looks and gender. 99% of poker players couldn't even sniff that opportunity, myself included. While women do sometimes get mistreated at the poker table, overall it's a big advantage in poker to be a female under 40.

While I agree that Joey has a weird obsession with hating Nagy/ACR, and it seeped too much into the interview, Ebony was obnoxious, unreasonable, and rambling throughout the controversial portion of the interview. The end was especially bizarre, when she quit the entire show because Joey wouldn't stop a FEMALE chat mod from using the word "bitch", even though the mod wasn't directing it at Ebony, and the mod apologized for it. Weird hill to die on, especially for a woman who calls her fans "Bad Bitches".

Furthermore, while this didn't get a lot of coverage, it's bizarre that she wears a vibrator around her neck, yet wants to be taken seriously as a female role model in poker. If she wants to get stakes and sponsorships by sexualizing herself, that's fine, but if you're going to take that line, you can't complain when people don't respect you. Imagine if a dude wore a fleshlight around his neck while playing poker. He would be derided as a pervert who makes women uncomfortable at the table, and dismissed as a weirdo. Yet we're supposed to respect a woman who wears a vibrator as a necklace?
this

one time on a twitch steam I asked her what race she was, she did not respond kindly
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09-16-2022 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I have no opinion of or exposure to Ebony Kenny, but those posters claiming that women “just don’t like strategy games”, or “will never make up more than 20%” of the poker field are just flat our wrong.

Women compose the majority audience of several strategy games, just not the ones that people on a poker forum like to pay attention to (e.g. mostly more casual games Candy Crush or Words with Friends).

But more directly, women did compose more than 20% of the live poker pool in the past. I was not around in the 1970s, but my impression is that during the period, the player pool in popular poker rooms was about 30% women. This is supported by media depictions of poker during this time (e.g. the movie California Split) and the recollections of the people who were active in this era (including Mason Malmuth several times on this forum). Developments in the poker community since then have actively driven women -away- from the game.
Would be good to see more hard evidence of that 30% figure, and if it is true, then was that in the days when check raising was banned? If it was, then perhaps poker was on a much lower level of skill and complexity back then, which could explain why more women were attracted to it.

Or perhaps it was when NLHE wasn't played much or at all, and the variants that were played were easier to understand.

I don't know, I guess, as you said, that Mason Malmuth would know, so would be interesting to hear what he says about it all.

My 79 year old mother plays Candy Crush, but is totally useless at Monopoly, Scrabble, any and every board game, doesn't know how to even play chess, backgammon, draughts, poker or any other strategy game. She knows how to play tic-tac-toe and would be half decent at Tetris if she tried it. I don't think playing Candy Crush and/or Words with Friends playing is a correlation to then playing or potentially playing poker too.

My mother is a sample of one, but citing casual, kill some time games, that some women play on their I Pad or phone, is hardly strong evidence that women like strategy games as much or nearly as much as men do.

Give us some some stats on Chess, Backgammon, Scrabble (part strategy / part knowledge), these are more relevant to poker.

You also need to cover the being comfortable with risk, factor, that a previous poster mentioned. He/she is correct about that IMO.

Last edited by PokerPlayingDunces; 09-16-2022 at 03:26 AM.
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09-16-2022 , 03:25 AM
Did someone actually call candy crush a strategy game ?
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09-16-2022 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPoo8
Ding ding ding ding we have a winner.
That's what people these days dont understand you can do what you want but no one is obligated to respect you
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09-16-2022 , 03:32 AM
I agree with Ebony on the comments but the actual podcast/interview was terribly boring and I don’t even care how much of a piece she had of herself. Ebony is objectively good at poker despite what trolls will say but this whole story is not all that engaging, she got picked to play staked in some high rollers, she finished in 5th place twice for some big 8-10 buy-in scores, and she celebrated.

Would much rather listen to a podcast with Linglin because she is out there berating nits, playing 60/30/20 in high stakes games on Hustler Casino Live, and possibly splashing around in some high stakes pit games. She also plays tournaments and sometimes cashes big in them too.
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09-16-2022 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Did someone actually call candy crush a strategy game ?
Lmao glad I wasn't the only one who saw that
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09-16-2022 , 06:16 AM
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Clicked on this by accident…

Woah never have I seen a music video that describes the danger of the word “bitch” in society and relates to this situation. Ten years ahead of its time too. I would love to hear her response to the video and the mental gymnastics that would have to take place for her to not feel totally called out by it.
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09-16-2022 , 06:27 AM
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Blocked by both but guessing that jennjacob,Rachel Lee stinks twitter accounts are having a field day with this ****, about men being arseholes etc blah blah blah ��
Rachel Lees is a man. In fact, he appeared on Phil Galfond's show, and you got to hear his real voice. Older guy, probably late 50s.
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09-16-2022 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I have no opinion of or exposure to Ebony Kenny, but those posters claiming that women “just don’t like strategy games”, or “will never make up more than 20%” of the poker field are just flat our wrong.

Women compose the majority audience of several strategy games, just not the ones that people on a poker forum like to pay attention to (e.g. mostly more casual games Candy Crush or Words with Friends).

But more directly, women did compose more than 20% of the live poker pool in the past. I was not around in the 1970s, but my impression is that during the period, the player pool in popular poker rooms was about 30% women. This is supported by media depictions of poker during this time (e.g. the movie California Split) and the recollections of the people who were active in this era (including Mason Malmuth several times on this forum). Developments in the poker community since then have actively driven women -away- from the game.
you’re essentially confirming that women in general are driven away by competition, they usually like it casual and it’s fine
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09-16-2022 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
Ebony Kenney has done product reviews for sex toys and vibrators...In fact, she has done a review of 30 of them, 30 days in a row, I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjFG...el=EbonyKenney

She carries a mini vibrator around her neck. It is a good "conversation starter" she says. She is a wild proponent of masturbation. She says that the upper left quadrant of her clitoris is the most sensitive.

She likes "self pleasue".
The last time I heard her speak was on Ingram's channel, and she was talking about "pegging", which is around the time I closed the video and cancelled my Internet subscription.
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09-16-2022 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
The last time I heard her speak was on Ingram's channel, and she was talking about "pegging", which is around the time I closed the video and cancelled my Internet subscription.
I had to google "pegging". Why did I do that to myself? I am way too straight for that ****.
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09-16-2022 , 08:45 AM
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I had to google "pegging". Why did I do that to myself? I am way too straight for that ****.
It is also a term in one of the world's greatest card games, Cribbage, and at the top level is actually what determines over a decent sample size, who is going to come out on top when two evenly matched very good players are playing against each other, because the rest of game play is 98% auto solved by very good players, whereas, pegging has a relatively complex game tree, combined with needing to consider card removal, in order to make the optimal play each time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cribbage

Pegging specifically:

Players choose the order in which to lay their cards in order to maximize their scores; experienced players refer to this as either good or poor "pegging". Btw, men by some distance outnumber women in Cribbage too.
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09-16-2022 , 08:49 AM
Women absolutely dominate the Animal Crossing scene
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09-16-2022 , 08:57 AM
Genuine point: women are fairly dominant numbers wise in the field of language translation, and are fairly dominant in the marketing departments of many companies and organisations, also in the role of bank cashier.

I'm not complaining about this blatant gender imbalance.

But if I did, what would women's response be? Would they be sympathetic to my "Let's get more men into language translation" cause.

Also, 70% of school teachers in the UK are female. Very, VERY unfair, and something needs to be done about this. I mean what sort of example is this setting to the very children that are being taught?
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09-16-2022 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingDunces
It is also a term in one of the world's greatest card games, Cribbage, and at the top level is actually what determines over a decent sample size, who is going to come out on top when two evenly matched very good players are playing against each other, because the rest of game play is 98% auto solved by very good players, whereas, pegging has a relatively complex game tree, combined with needing to consider card removal, in order to make the optimal play each time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cribbage

Pegging specifically:

Players choose the order in which to lay their cards in order to maximize their scores; experienced players refer to this as either good or poor "pegging". Btw, men by some distance outnumber women in Cribbage too.
Gonna go way out on a limb and say I could dominate EK in cribbage but not the other form ...
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09-16-2022 , 09:11 AM
Haven't played cribbage in quite awhile. Made 29 once in my life and lost that game.
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09-16-2022 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gordie
Haven't played cribbage in quite awhile. Made 29 once in my life and lost that game.
Wow, have never made a 29 myself, or had anyone get 29 against me, have had "19" a few times though!
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09-16-2022 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_Druff
I don't know all that much about her, and we've never met, but from what I've seen the chick seems to be nuts.....


There are several great female role models in poker, but I don't believe Ebony Kenney should be one of them, regardless of how many tournaments she wins.
Kind of presumptuous, Todd, for you to be lecturing women on who they should consider a role model in poker...... but hey, you've appeared even more directly misogynistic elsewhere in this thread.
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