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Originally Posted by philhell24
Agree. It is straight up insanity to push this marxist agenda of quotas. Women in general are not interested in strategy games and are not comfortable with risk.
This.
Also, obviously women, in fact all people, should be treated with respect at the poker table and in the poker environment, but there is a definite cap on what % of women will ever be in the player pool, regardless of changes in poker room/operator policies, probably ~20%.
Ironically, for those whose standpoint is gender equality for women regardless of what field it is in and are possibly also advocates of measures such as quotas and positive discrimination, by far the simplest and most effective way of getting more women into the game, is to have tournaments where some of the regular cash prizes are replaced with household goods / white goods (fridges, freezers etc), or vacation or leisure prizes, or where such prizes are added to the prize pool.
This would probably be quite a cheap measure for the tournament operators to do because some of the prize suppliers would give the prizes for free or at a heavy discount in exchange for the brand exposure they are getting.
It is ironic, because it would be called a sexist measure by a lot of people, when in reality it is just subbing in or adding on prizes that most women would like to win.
An example of the way women themselves can have polarised views on the whole topic of women in poker, is that in a women's comp, I think in an EPT (maybe in London 3 or 4 years ago) and I think a £500 or £1K, all players were given a glass of champagne and a cake at the table on day 1, (or something like that).
A few players posted pics on Twitter of the table all having a great time, champagne glass in hand, however, a number of women on Twitter (and possibly a few men too) criticised it and said it was just patronising women and a retrograde step.
There are some obvious and harsh realities that advocates of pure equality for women and 100% nicey-nicey treatment of them in poker, are overlooking, i.e. that a significant portion of male players are just not nice people, they are not nice towards anyone and everyone, fellow players, male or female, dealers, and floor staff. Now, such players might be nice or okay people outside the poker arena, but in it they are not.
Male players have to put up with this, and develop coping mechanisms in order to survive in this environment and so do female players too.
I totally get that there are extra dimensions for women coping, e.g. that most women are easier for the bad guys in poker to physically intimidate than men are, and the crude remarks that the bad guys can make to women that are of a sexual nature.
But I come back to the fact that this is the reality of the arena of poker, similar to if a woman joins the armed forces, the fire fighting service, or even something like becomes an open outcry marker maker on a trading floor. Male aggression occurs in all of these fields, and in many more fields, and within the player pool / the workforce there will be some bad guys who behave badly towards all people.
Striving for equality, fairness, kind treatment by all humans to all other humans, will never change this, it may improve it a little, but that's all.
So if you're a woman and want to enter the live poker arena, you are going to have to have a very strong and resilient character to cope with what's in store, and/or devise and develop some clever coping skills and strategies.
Last edited by PokerPlayingDunces; 09-15-2022 at 09:26 PM.
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