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09-24-2010 , 04:25 AM
Harrington should get a temp ban for this on FTP, implying someone superusing in public chat is just plain f rude.. what the hell was he thinking?
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09-24-2010 , 04:31 AM
I think he wasn't been douchey asking why he smooth called, BUT he's douchey for saying
harrington25: obv not but im gonna show that hand to few ppl
harrington25: urin david etc
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09-24-2010 , 04:54 AM
Don't know the guy, but that harrington acts like a little gay boy.
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09-24-2010 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
But does it show part of them?
yes it shows the backs of the cards
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09-24-2010 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcadianSky
I would think harrington25 is pretty darn qualified to comment on the hand. If it were "standard", that log wouldn't exist, nor would this thread.
It looks like tilt chat, and even besides that Harrington plays mostly cap I think so there's probably not much of a skill gap in deep plo between gordo and him (gordo could be better I dunno). Either way your point doesn't really hold as Harrington has been known to say stupid things in chat when he's tilting.
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09-24-2010 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MonkeyPox
If he was superusing, wouldn't he have folded to the river bet?
Standard superuser hustle call.
He reps that he's not superusing when he actually is.
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09-24-2010 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Vega33
The only thing this proves is that Durrrr is a cool dude. Especially this comment:

harrington25: can u explain ur reasoning for the acll
harrington25: the way the hand played out
durrrr: i jus click buttons buddy
durrrr: i thought thts y u play me
this...belongs in the best one liners thread.
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09-24-2010 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by WelshJOE
this...belongs in the best one liners thread.
It's not original, Dogishead used a similar line with his J high call.

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RS_Hustla: HOW THE $&$ DID U THINK J HIGH
WAS GOOD?
RS_Hustla: I WANNA KNO?
RS_Hustla: HOW
RS_Hustla: ?
NeedUrRent (Observer): soul read'n
RS_Hustla: THIS SHOULD BE AUTO MUCH
RS_Hustla: MUCK
RS_Hustla: WOW
INTERNET POKERS: i just clicked a button man i
dunno what i'm doing
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09-24-2010 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
+1. I wouldn't raise this river against any semi-decent reg. I mean WTF is he supposed to be getting value from? T9's the only hand that's even remotely plausible to call with and it's going to fold the river a decent amount, not even to mention the fact that most T9 combos probably check turn too.
So if you were in that position you would only raise QQ and 99?
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09-24-2010 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by warboat
Standard superuser hustle call.
He reps that he's not superusing when he actually is.
love it
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09-24-2010 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Masq
It's not original, Dogishead used a similar line with his J high call.
original's here


Full Tilt Poker Game #7896387621: Table Patrik (6 max) - $2000/$4000 - Limit Omaha H/L - 19:51:39 ET - 2008/09/01
Seat 2: LoLiNa ($46,996)
Seat 4: Phil Ivey ($307,613)
Seat 5: David Benyamine ($93,998)
Seat 6: Gus Hansen ($78,996)
David Benyamine posts the small blind of $1,000
Gus Hansen posts the big blind of $2,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
LoLiNa raises to $4,000
Phil Ivey calls $4,000
David Benyamine raises to $6,000
Gus Hansen calls $4,000
LoLiNa calls $2,000
Phil Ivey raises to $8,000
David Benyamine calls $2,000
Gus Hansen calls $2,000
LoLiNa calls $2,000
*** FLOP *** [6s Qs 2d]
David Benyamine checks
Gus Hansen checks
LoLiNa bets $2,000
Phil Ivey raises to $4,000
David Benyamine raises to $6,000
Gus Hansen has 15 seconds left to act
Gus Hansen calls $6,000
LoLiNa raises to $8,000
Phil Ivey calls $4,000
David Benyamine calls $2,000
Gus Hansen calls $2,000
*** TURN *** [6s Qs 2d] [9h]
David Benyamine bets $4,000
Gus Hansen calls $4,000
LoLiNa raises to $8,000
Phil Ivey raises to $12,000
David Benyamine calls $8,000
Gus Hansen: wauw
Gus Hansen has 15 seconds left to act
Gus Hansen calls $8,000
LoLiNa calls $4,000
*** RIVER *** [6s Qs 2d 9h] [Jd]
David Benyamine checks
Gus Hansen checks
LoLiNa checks
Phil Ivey bets $4,000
David Benyamine folds
Gus Hansen has 15 seconds left to act
Gus Hansen folds
LoLiNa has 15 seconds left to act
LoLiNa folds
Uncalled bet of $4,000 returned to Phil Ivey
Phil Ivey mucks
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($111,998)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $112,000 | Rake $2
Board: [6s Qs 2d 9h Jd]
Seat 2: LoLiNa folded on the River
Seat 4: Phil Ivey (button) collected ($111,998), mucked
Seat 5: David Benyamine (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: Gus Hansen (big blind) folded on the River

LoLiNa: i had two air nut low draw nut flush draw what u guys have
Phil Ivey: i had a bet button
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09-24-2010 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Boy Jack
original's here


Full Tilt Poker Game #7896387621: Table Patrik (6 max) - $2000/$4000 - Limit Omaha H/L - 19:51:39 ET - 2008/09/01
Seat 2: LoLiNa ($46,996)
Seat 4: Phil Ivey ($307,613)
Seat 5: David Benyamine ($93,998)
Seat 6: Gus Hansen ($78,996)
David Benyamine posts the small blind of $1,000
Gus Hansen posts the big blind of $2,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
LoLiNa raises to $4,000
Phil Ivey calls $4,000
David Benyamine raises to $6,000
Gus Hansen calls $4,000
LoLiNa calls $2,000
Phil Ivey raises to $8,000
David Benyamine calls $2,000
Gus Hansen calls $2,000
LoLiNa calls $2,000
*** FLOP *** [6s Qs 2d]
David Benyamine checks
Gus Hansen checks
LoLiNa bets $2,000
Phil Ivey raises to $4,000
David Benyamine raises to $6,000
Gus Hansen has 15 seconds left to act
Gus Hansen calls $6,000
LoLiNa raises to $8,000
Phil Ivey calls $4,000
David Benyamine calls $2,000
Gus Hansen calls $2,000
*** TURN *** [6s Qs 2d] [9h]
David Benyamine bets $4,000
Gus Hansen calls $4,000
LoLiNa raises to $8,000
Phil Ivey raises to $12,000
David Benyamine calls $8,000
Gus Hansen: wauw
Gus Hansen has 15 seconds left to act
Gus Hansen calls $8,000
LoLiNa calls $4,000
*** RIVER *** [6s Qs 2d 9h] [Jd]
David Benyamine checks
Gus Hansen checks
LoLiNa checks
Phil Ivey bets $4,000
David Benyamine folds
Gus Hansen has 15 seconds left to act
Gus Hansen folds
LoLiNa has 15 seconds left to act
LoLiNa folds
Uncalled bet of $4,000 returned to Phil Ivey
Phil Ivey mucks
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($111,998)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $112,000 | Rake $2
Board: [6s Qs 2d 9h Jd]
Seat 2: LoLiNa folded on the River
Seat 4: Phil Ivey (button) collected ($111,998), mucked
Seat 5: David Benyamine (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: Gus Hansen (big blind) folded on the River

LoLiNa: i had two air nut low draw nut flush draw what u guys have
Phil Ivey: i had a bet button
lol, not quite the same but still amazing. How the hell do you fold on a $112k pot for $4k on the river? I don't understand that level of nittiness that limit requires but those are some amazing odds on the money surely? I can see he said he missed but it's not the first time i've seen stuff like that.
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09-24-2010 , 11:45 AM
yo phil ivey kills it with the i had a bet button

not bad potatophreek:

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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
But does it show part of them?

yes it shows the backs of the cards
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09-24-2010 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcadianSky
I would think harrington25 is pretty darn qualified to comment on the hand. If it were "standard", that log wouldn't exist, nor would this thread.
Go back to NVG OH **** THATS WHERE WE'RE AT!
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09-24-2010 , 11:55 AM
i think that tom had 9T or Q9 just called so he could see H25's cards
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09-24-2010 , 02:54 PM
So only calling the 3rd nuts is a "shady" play now?? Obviously it's Omaha...3rd nuts are ALWAYS good here....</sarcasm> I am sure a lot of people would just call down the river bet against a good-reg.

In my last 6 months learning to play Omaha I can't tell you how much money the 3rd nuts have cost me on boards like that.
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09-24-2010 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Karganeth
So if you were in that position you would only raise QQ and 99?
And air with blockers to balance.
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09-24-2010 , 04:04 PM
I use the 'just clicking buttons' phrase all the time. :/
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09-24-2010 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcadianSky
He didn't lose the pot...
Lol my bad. Still tilt chat.
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09-24-2010 , 08:49 PM
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Harrington makes himself look pretty stupid sometimes
Yeah - Did u see the pokerstatic inteview? Watch the interview and all is revealed. This chat is 100% in line w/ his character.
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09-24-2010 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BoterSmoter
And air with blockers to balance.
To only raise in that spot with QQ and 99 seems really weak to me. Since the flop was checked back and called on the turn (with two flush draws out and possible straight draws), surely you would almost never turn up with QQ or 99 there (because you would have bet the flop or raised the turn) meaning that opponent is free to bet on the river and not have to worry about a rasie.

Last edited by Karganeth; 09-24-2010 at 10:15 PM.
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09-24-2010 , 10:21 PM
super std river call with 3rd nuts

if he raises the river only QQ and 1010 are calling 100% of the time, and KJ/33 will call some percentage of the time. 910 is unlikely as Dwan has a 9, and everything else folds. He's only definitely getting called by a hand that beats him, and the strong hands that he's value raising against will sometimes fold. Raising river is -EV.
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09-24-2010 , 10:30 PM
if harrington25 leads that flop then he stacks durrr on the river. I dunno why he's bitching he just called when his own line is the reason.
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09-24-2010 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Karganeth
To only raise in that spot with QQ and 99 seems really weak to me. Since the flop was checked back and called on the turn (with two flush draws out and possible straight draws), surely you would almost never turn up with QQ or 99 there (because you would have bet the flop or raised the turn) meaning that opponent is free to bet on the river and not have to worry about a rasie.
All of this is almost completely irrelevant. Opponent already bet. The only questions left are the ones I raised in my earlier post. Lots of things have to go right for a raise to be clearly correct here. I'm not in the "ZOMG EASIEST FLAT EVER" camp because I wasn't there, but flatting is certainly reasonable.

If you are claiming some sort of metagame fail by durrrr, I doubt he's concerned about his opponents being *more* willing to bet rivers.
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09-24-2010 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
All of this is almost completely irrelevant. Opponent already bet. The only questions left are the ones I raised in my earlier post. Lots of things have to go right for a raise to be clearly correct here. I'm not in the "ZOMG EASIEST FLAT EVER" camp because I wasn't there, but flatting is certainly reasonable.
I'm not reallly talking about that specific hand, I'm commenting on if his strategy is exploitable in that spot.

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If you are claiming some sort of metagame fail by durrrr, I doubt he's concerned about his opponents being *more* willing to bet rivers.
If durrrr is only raising QQ and 99 in that spot then surely its exploitable. With QQ or 99 durrrr will be betting the flop a ton and if he is bet on the turn then surely he will be rasing often. Durrrr will almost never have QQ or 99 in that spot. It definitely is concerning that your opponent can bet the river and be almost certain that you're not going to raise.

The strongest strategy is one which you can tell your opponent and yet he is still unable to figure out how to exploit it.
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