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*** Durrrr Challenge: Stage II; Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates - IN RUNNING THREAD *** *** Durrrr Challenge: Stage II; Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates - IN RUNNING THREAD ***
View Poll Results: Who will win the Durrrr Challenge II?
Tom "Durrrr" Dwan
1,577 41.89%
Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates
2,188 58.11%

01-31-2016 , 02:07 PM
That was a worthwhile bump.

Was there ever an explanation for the ESL-esque "IN RUNNING THREAD" in the title?
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01-31-2016 , 08:09 PM
Dwan's word = a poor man's Chino
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02-01-2016 , 12:49 AM
Im still rooting for tom to crush.
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02-01-2016 , 01:16 AM
Lock this thread FFS !
This "challenge" is just dead, DEAD and over, ok ?
It's like talking about UB/AP's victims being paid back or if Chris Ferguson plans to give some money back...
What's the point bumping that kind of thread ? Is that some kind of necromantic fetish ?
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08-02-2016 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ShowMeUrAce
Lock this thread FFS !
This "challenge" is just dead, DEAD and over, ok ?
It's like talking about UB/AP's victims being paid back or if Chris Ferguson plans to give some money back...
What's the point bumping that kind of thread ? Is that some kind of necromantic fetish ?
Bump.
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08-03-2016 , 06:42 AM
Stop living in the fkn past. lock the thread.....
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08-03-2016 , 09:31 AM
This thread should only be locked by Jungleman as he holds the key.
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08-03-2016 , 09:40 AM
lol Tom Dwan, hes the real hero 2+2 needs not the one you all may want but the one you all need...

Guys the literal epitome of gambling addiction come full circle. Sad, its not pretty, hopefully he doesnt do something dumb and helse but so many on this board needed to see this bc they have this idea poker is just this beatable game for so many, and in reality the end result is exactly what Tom Dwan has become, nothing but a broke depressed, sad degenerate. With the likes of Amarillo Slim and all the other ones before him.

Tom Dwan go get some help, and new friends these bums around poker surely arent going to help you out of this mess, you look physically terrible too. A loooong hiatus then maybe come back with a fresh perspective and maybe play some MTTs but at this point you're done.

Time for a timeout Mr. Dwan for you're own good. Look how it helped Michael Phelps, you should think about the same course find a great lady gtfo away form the degens, and degen life and come back to it later on in life if you want.

Gambling, Poker, and Casinos will outlive you and I so dont worry about that go get you're head on straight!

glgl
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08-03-2016 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnNashJr
lol Tom Dwan, hes the real hero 2+2 needs not the one you all may want but the one you all need...

Guys the literal epitome of gambling addiction come full circle. Sad, its not pretty, hopefully he doesnt do something dumb and helse but so many on this board needed to see this bc they have this idea poker is just this beatable game for so many, and in reality the end result is exactly what Tom Dwan has become, nothing but a broke depressed, sad degenerate. With the likes of Amarillo Slim and all the other ones before him.

Tom Dwan go get some help, and new friends these bums around poker surely arent going to help you out of this mess, you look physically terrible too. A loooong hiatus then maybe come back with a fresh perspective and maybe play some MTTs but at this point you're done.

Time for a timeout Mr. Dwan for you're own good. Look how it helped Michael Phelps, you should think about the same course find a great lady gtfo away form the degens, and degen life and come back to it later on in life if you want.

Gambling, Poker, and Casinos will outlive you and I so dont worry about that go get you're head on straight!

glgl
Why quit? If you unlimited backing from guys who have accepted that you won't get out of makeup, aren't you just freerolling?
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08-03-2016 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MiRee446
Why quit? If you unlimited backing from guys who have accepted that you won't get out of makeup, aren't you just freerolling?
well this is theoretical

In Tom Dwans eyes, one would think that he thinks, hes gonna spin it back up eventually..

To others you make a valid point.
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08-03-2016 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnNashJr
well this is theoretical

In Tom Dwans eyes, one would think that he thinks, hes gonna spin it back up eventually..

To others you make a valid point.
I'm basing it off JMo who knows the Macau scene pretty well. But maybe you know more? I mean for sure you wouldn't be spouting off your opinions without a decent amount of information to support it.
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08-03-2016 , 11:13 AM
here's what happened. tom was paid around $3M/yr as an ftp red pro. he viewed this sum, along with free tv buyins as play chips for investing purposes. after BF, tom decided his game with Jungle entered a grey area for a game that wouldn't have happened under his prior $3M/yr deal. he would have likely continued playing if it was against someone he had an edge on. ftp said they'd honor a % of the deal to help pay for the durrr challenge, which they reneged on a little before durr made that video with srsly. since then, tom has been stalling.
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08-03-2016 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MiRee446
I'm basing it off JMo who knows the Macau scene pretty well. But maybe you know more? I mean for sure you wouldn't be spouting off your opinions without a decent amount of information to support it.
oh yeah I would

and lol JMO wasnt he the one cheating with the HUD on NV sites... feel like I heard that name somewhere, anyway
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08-03-2016 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnNashJr
lol Tom Dwan, hes the real hero 2+2 needs not the one you all may want but the one you all need...

Guys the literal epitome of gambling addiction come full circle. Sad, its not pretty, hopefully he doesnt do something dumb and helse but so many on this board needed to see this bc they have this idea poker is just this beatable game for so many, and in reality the end result is exactly what Tom Dwan has become, nothing but a broke depressed, sad degenerate. With the likes of Amarillo Slim and all the other ones before him.

Tom Dwan go get some help, and new friends these bums around poker surely arent going to help you out of this mess, you look physically terrible too. A loooong hiatus then maybe come back with a fresh perspective and maybe play some MTTs but at this point you're done.

Time for a timeout Mr. Dwan for you're own good. Look how it helped Michael Phelps, you should think about the same course find a great lady gtfo away form the degens, and degen life and come back to it later on in life if you want.

Gambling, Poker, and Casinos will outlive you and I so dont worry about that go get you're head on straight!

glgl
Wow you're a ****ing misery huh
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08-03-2016 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by youngtajplayer
Wow you're a ****ing misery huh
Hi Tom
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08-03-2016 , 11:37 PM
Why would he ever quit if he's literally in Macoa with Phil Ivey who's lending him money.

Further FT was backing him on the challenge vs Jungleman paying out a % and they arent backing him anymore on paying out if he loses so he can't complete the challenge anymore.

Lock this MF up now.
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08-04-2016 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Coach27
Why would he ever quit if he's literally in Macoa with Phil Ivey who's lending him money.

Further FT was backing him on the challenge vs Jungleman paying out a % and they arent backing him anymore on paying out if he loses so he can't complete the challenge anymore.

Lock this MF up now.
Right, if this was the case I don't see how people can call Tom a scammer? If a 3rd party had a piece of it and bailed then I think it is the fault of the 3rd party?
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08-04-2016 , 04:11 AM
WCGgrinder mentioned that an escrow was set up for the bet
Jungle shipped the 500K and low and behold durrs 1.5mil was not in the escrow account. Straight scam IMO.
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08-04-2016 , 04:01 PM
damn how is kevmaths 2p2 join date 2002 I was like 12 or 13 and hes younger than me
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08-04-2016 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by IPlayNLHE
Right, if this was the case I don't see how people can call Tom a scammer? If a 3rd party had a piece of it and bailed then I think it is the fault of the 3rd party?
What? If you lose your job and cant pay rent you cant tell your landlord its your employers fault because they bailed on you. The 3rd party is a independent factor as far as the other participant is concerned. It falls solely on the person that agreed to the bet.
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08-04-2016 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
What? If you lose your job and cant pay rent you cant tell your landlord its your employers fault because they bailed on you. The 3rd party is a independent factor as far as the other participant is concerned. It falls solely on the person that agreed to the bet.
Gambling and paying rent are a terrible comparison here. If me and my friend went in on a bet against one person and my friend died I am not going to pay up my friends end of the bet. You on the other hand would be a very nice guy for doing so!
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08-04-2016 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
damn how is kevmaths 2p2 join date 2002 I was like 12 or 13 and hes younger than me
lol what gave you the impression that Kev is in his twenties?
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08-04-2016 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elendil200
WCGgrinder mentioned that an escrow was set up for the bet
Jungle shipped the 500K and low and behold durrs 1.5mil was not in the escrow account. Straight scam IMO.
Not sure I understand. Escrow, but on the honor system?
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08-04-2016 , 06:33 PM
If this ever got started again it would be the biggest blood bath ever for durrrr

Given his history how jungle hasn't punched through walls or even killed someone over this situation he's in with Durrr I don't know

If it's played out he's got to be winning somewhere between 15-20bb/100, if there's around half the hands still to be played out that's another 1.5-2m on top of the 1.5m side bet.

No wonder durrrr doesn't want to play
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08-04-2016 , 07:07 PM
Where did you pull that win rate from?
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