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View Poll Results: Who will win the Durrrr Challenge II?
Tom "Durrrr" Dwan
1,577 41.89%
Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates
2,188 58.11%

07-29-2015 , 11:31 PM
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I think tom intends on finishing the challenge but has been distracted by things of great importance...
Triads confirm'D
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07-30-2015 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrtrebus
You could probably get action on it even starting up again within 9 months
Lol yeah I'd prob take action on that too
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07-30-2015 , 12:25 AM
Donk Dwan was just as much of a joke back then as he is now.

No legit player respects his game.

I think on 2p2 there's 3 levels of cluelessness:

1) Hellmuth fans - stuck in 2004 before it was clear how terrible everybody was

2) Negreanu fans - stuck in 2008 before it was clear how terrible the live pros were

3) Dwan fans - stuck in 2010 before it was clear how terrible the red pros were
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07-30-2015 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by potpotpondo
Donk Dwan was just as much of a joke back then as he is now.

No legit player respects his game.

I think on 2p2 there's 3 levels of cluelessness:

1) Hellmuth fans - stuck in 2004 before it was clear how terrible everybody was

2) Negreanu fans - stuck in 2008 before it was clear how terrible the live pros were

3) Dwan fans - stuck in 2010 before it was clear how terrible the red pros were
You don't know what you're talking about if you think Dwan was a fish back in 2010. Some of the red pros were old live players. But Galfond...Durr...Ivey...Antonius...Benyamine...Has tings...all red pros. They were all the best players in the world at that time and most still are.
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07-30-2015 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by boddicker
You don't know what you're talking about if you think Dwan was a fish back in 2010. Some of the red pros were old live players. But Galfond...Durr...Ivey...Antonius...Benyamine...Has tings...all red pros. They were all the best players in the world at that time and most still are.
Ivey, Galfond, Antonius sure.

But not Dwan
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07-30-2015 , 03:32 AM
Pretty sure the argument there is that Results =/ Skill level.
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07-30-2015 , 07:32 AM
I don't think Galfond was ever a red pro.
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07-30-2015 , 05:18 PM
Why is everyone under the impression that Dwan HAS TO pay Jungleman? It wasn't like he stole any money. They had a deal, which wasn't official with any paperwork or nothing, and Dwan backed out, presumably because he's broke.

Tough luck for Jungleman but he has no official case. All he can do is tarnish Dwan's 'reputation', which I highly doubt he gives a crap about at this very moment.

Gentleman's agreement or Gamblers Code my ass.

Dwan owes absolutely nothing.
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07-30-2015 , 05:40 PM
It's true that it's not legally binding but to think Dwan doesn't owe anything is absurd.
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07-30-2015 , 05:44 PM
Cairo, Egypt
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07-30-2015 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CursedbyaGypsy
Why is everyone under the impression that Dwan HAS TO pay Jungleman? It wasn't like he stole any money. They had a deal, which wasn't official with any paperwork or nothing, and Dwan backed out, presumably because he's broke.

Tough luck for Jungleman but he has no official case. All he can do is tarnish Dwan's 'reputation', which I highly doubt he gives a crap about at this very moment.

Gentleman's agreement or Gamblers Code my ass.

Dwan owes absolutely nothing.
Lol.. what would you be posting had you been the one in Jungleman's shoes?

Please share your thoughts on this topic with anyone you are about to have financial dealings with so they can get a feel for just how how little they should trust you, especially if things do not go your way.

I know I would not trust someone with an attitude like yours farther than I could throw them.

It is too bad for his opponent that Tom did not publicaly talk like this right before the match started.

Last edited by tuccotrading; 07-30-2015 at 07:31 PM.
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07-30-2015 , 08:37 PM
obvious troll you guys
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07-31-2015 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CursedbyaGypsy
Why is everyone under the impression that Dwan HAS TO pay Jungleman? It wasn't like he stole any money. They had a deal, which wasn't official with any paperwork or nothing, and Dwan backed out, presumably because he's broke.

Tough luck for Jungleman but he has no official case. All he can do is tarnish Dwan's 'reputation', which I highly doubt he gives a crap about at this very moment.

Gentleman's agreement or Gamblers Code my ass.

Dwan owes absolutely nothing.
HEY!!!
TIMMY DEAN JUST WAITING TIL HE BACK IN THE GREEN!!! OKK???@!#
TAKE SOME CHILL PILL TY
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07-31-2015 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tuccotrading
Lol.. what would you be posting had you been the one in Jungleman's shoes?

Please share your thoughts on this topic with anyone you are about to have financial dealings with so they can get a feel for just how how little they should trust you, especially if things do not go your way.

I know I would not trust someone with an attitude like yours farther than I could throw them.

It is too bad for his opponent that Tom did not publicaly talk like this right before the match started.
I don't do such financial dealings with poker players. I've learned my lesson. But what I'm saying is it's not like Jungleman loaned money and Dwan didn't pay it back. This is a gambler's code that has no basis whatsoever.

So yes it's frustrating for Cates, but whatever, he has no legal case which in turn means that Dwan is in the clear whatever happens.

I don't even know why we're so interested in this in the first place either lol
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07-31-2015 , 01:50 PM
We are gonna see HoldemNL back in action??!!!
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07-31-2015 , 02:03 PM
Grunch:

I'm so excited for this! Dwan is my favorite player ever and he is gonna destroy jungleman!

Waiting on the match to start now!
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07-31-2015 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
obvious troll you guys
this
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07-31-2015 , 04:57 PM
Not sure if posted earlier, if so just delete or something.

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...months-591149/

Article was posted on pocket5 today.
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07-31-2015 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CursedbyaGypsy
I don't do such financial dealings with poker players. I've learned my lesson. But what I'm saying is it's not like Jungleman loaned money and Dwan didn't pay it back. This is a gambler's code that has no basis whatsoever.

So yes it's frustrating for Cates, but whatever, he has no legal case which in turn means that Dwan is in the clear whatever happens.

I don't even know why we're so interested in this in the first place either lol
Wow, you're an idiot.
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07-31-2015 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by highhustla
Wow, you're an idiot.
Credit for using the correct "you're," but the substance of his post is correct.

Unfortunate for Jungle that he did not get the terms of this Challenge in writing nor require both sides to pay their respective amounts into a lawyer's Trust account.

In short, no judge would order specific performance of this bet and no one outside of a Triad enforcer is going to make Dwan pay. Move on.
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07-31-2015 , 05:33 PM
Your posts are almost as bad.

Discussion of legal recourse/ramifications is an utter non-sequitur.
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07-31-2015 , 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by jungleman
We have completed 25k hands rougly.

Tom and I have had some disputes but I believe we have essentially resolved them . The challenge is agreed to be played out in the next 9 months (God-willing). I think tom intends on finishing the challenge but has been distracted by things of great importance... In addition Black Friday greatly hindered our progress.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...85/index6.html
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07-31-2015 , 06:01 PM
Is this on PS and are we able to view their match?
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07-31-2015 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CremeLaCreme
Not sure if posted earlier, if so just delete or something.

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...months-591149/

Article was posted on pocket5 today.
Oh cool... I never thought they'll play the HU challenge again. Keep us posted. Thanks.
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08-01-2015 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CursedbyaGypsy
Why is everyone under the impression that Dwan HAS TO pay Jungleman? It wasn't like he stole any money. They had a deal, which wasn't official with any paperwork or nothing, and Dwan backed out, presumably because he's broke.

Tough luck for Jungleman but he has no official case. All he can do is tarnish Dwan's 'reputation', which I highly doubt he gives a crap about at this very moment.

Gentleman's agreement or Gamblers Code my ass.

Dwan owes absolutely nothing.
Cates should give Dwan a break... He's up 1.3M ffs... And another 1.5 coming. Come on....
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