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*** Durrrr Challenge: Stage I; Patrik Antonius - IN RUNNING THREAD *** *** Durrrr Challenge: Stage I; Patrik Antonius - IN RUNNING THREAD ***

03-07-2009 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NVGtard
5/6 months will be all over
don't forget the good month or two stoppage for WSOP.
03-08-2009 , 01:09 AM
Durrrr is screwed , PA will have his children to take over and finish off his side of the bet when he dies, somehow I don't see that as likely in Durrrr's case.
03-08-2009 , 01:46 AM
Posters ITT expecting these guys to play on posters' schedule is tilting me hardcore. They'll play for millions when they feel like playing for millions, morans.
03-08-2009 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wisehandpoker
Posters ITT expecting these guys to play on posters' schedule is tilting me hardcore. They'll play for millions when they feel like playing for millions, morans.
+Infinity
03-08-2009 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wisehandpoker
Posters ITT expecting these guys to play on posters' schedule is tilting me hardcore. They'll play for millions when they feel like playing for millions, morans.
Kinda like when Philo Beddoe fought Jack Wilson.
03-08-2009 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wisehandpoker
Posters ITT expecting these guys to play on posters' schedule is tilting me hardcore. They'll play for millions when they feel like playing for millions, morans.
If durrrr was thinking about publicity and coverage he would be smart too try and play more regularly. They do this over a year it's not gonna be a big deal when they finish but if they played everyday and finished it in less than 2 months it would be alot more hyped up etc. Doesn't make much of a difference too pa however fast they play it through though.
03-08-2009 , 11:39 AM
Someone who misspells "moron" when calling everyone a moron makes me giggle.

Also, there's a red line under "moran" for a reason, "moran".
03-08-2009 , 11:43 AM
03-08-2009 , 01:05 PM
Hi guys, just a thought regarding the challenge.

Lets say PA is losing 400k (or any somewhat significant amount for that matter) with 300 hands left to play. Won't the integrity of the game evaporate? What I mean is, wouldn't it be in durrrr's interest to park the bus and completely shut down? And conversely, would'nt PA be motivated to pump every pot in attempt come unstuck?

My point is, as the game draws to a close I dont see how it will maintain its honesty. I don't think enough thought has been put into the latter stages of the challenge and its inherent change in dynamics.

I'd love to hear some thoughts on this.
03-08-2009 , 01:11 PM
yes, in the 2 months since the challenge was made, not once has any of that ever come up a thousand times
03-08-2009 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by omarcreepin
Hi guys, just a thought regarding the challenge.

Lets say PA is losing 400k (or any somewhat significant amount for that matter) with 300 hands left to play. Won't the integrity of the game evaporate? What I mean is, wouldn't it be in durrrr's interest to park the bus and completely shut down? And conversely, would'nt PA be motivated to pump every pot in attempt come unstuck?

My point is, as the game draws to a close I dont see how it will maintain its honesty. I don't think enough thought has been put into the latter stages of the challenge and its inherent change in dynamics.

I'd love to hear some thoughts on this.
Yeah, at some point it will become clear that one player needs to concede, most likely it will be WAY before the 50K hands are played so they will just quit and the player taking the worst of it will settle up the side bet.

BUT, if it is really close to the end then you will reach a point where one of them should basically stop playing poker because it is mathematically impossible for the other guy to win. This will be interesting because the player who has the side bet locked up even by folding every hand to the end will be eroding his profits almost completely by allowing the other player to steal his blinds everyhand. And in the name of sportsmanship the other player may not even do this?

By issuing this chalenge, Durrrr is in effect saying that no player can hang with him for 50K hands, ainec. Because obv its not worth Durrr's time to play 50K hands for a mere $500K, which is what he would essentially get if he went into "prevent defense" ASAP.
03-08-2009 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by barnabus
If durrrr was thinking about publicity and coverage he would be smart too try and play more regularly. They do this over a year it's not gonna be a big deal when they finish but if they played everyday and finished it in less than 2 months it would be alot more hyped up etc. Doesn't make much of a difference too pa however fast they play it through though.
and yet the morans keep coming back.
03-08-2009 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by omarcreepin
Hi guys, just a thought regarding the challenge.

Lets say PA is losing 400k (or any somewhat significant amount for that matter) with 300 hands left to play. Won't the integrity of the game evaporate? What I mean is, wouldn't it be in durrrr's interest to park the bus and completely shut down? And conversely, would'nt PA be motivated to pump every pot in attempt come unstuck?

My point is, as the game draws to a close I dont see how it will maintain its honesty. I don't think enough thought has been put into the latter stages of the challenge and its inherent change in dynamics.

I'd love to hear some thoughts on this.
Look, the structure of the bet is the structure of the bet. The players should probably play in such a way as to maximize their EV, however they want to define it. There is no loss of "integrity" or "honesty" in this. It's just the game they've both chosen to play.

It's not a straight cash game. It's a cash game with a large side bet, which absolutely can influence the proper strategy for the 50k hands.

Does it affect the "integrity" or "honesty" of a football game when the losing team, rather than driving for a first down like the rest of the game, has to throw a hail mary with 6 seconds left to play because it's their only chance to win? The rules determine the strategy.

You could say that a tournament has no "integrity" or "honesty" because players should play cautiously on the bubble if they could be stacked out. It's just the structure of the game defining the best strategy in both cases.
03-08-2009 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CRUDEFINDER
Sounds like my sex life
lol @ any 2+2er having a sex life.
03-08-2009 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eastbay
Look, the structure of the bet is the structure of the bet. The players should probably play in such a way as to maximize their EV, however they want to define it. There is no loss of "integrity" or "honesty" in this. It's just the game they've both chosen to play.

It's not a straight cash game. It's a cash game with a large side bet, which absolutely can influence the proper strategy for the 50k hands.

Does it affect the "integrity" or "honesty" of a football game when the losing team, rather than driving for a first down like the rest of the game, has to throw a hail mary with 6 seconds left to play because it's their only chance to win? The rules determine the strategy.

You could say that a tournament has no "integrity" or "honesty" because players should play cautiously on the bubble if they could be stacked out. It's just the structure of the game defining the best strategy in both cases.
this
03-08-2009 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RickOSU
this
well said. thats the answer I was looking for.
03-08-2009 , 02:47 PM
woops, quoted the wrong reply above.
03-08-2009 , 04:23 PM
Not a lot of new information but PokerListings interviewed Dwan about the challenge at NBC Heads-up.

http://www.pokerlistings.com/durrrr-...-to-tell-37733

When asked who has the advantage:

"We just haven't played enough hands to tell," he said. "And there hasn't been anything that interesting yet."
03-08-2009 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Durrrrs Accountant
People need to let me do my job.
Absolutely brilliant....could not stop laughing
03-08-2009 , 08:24 PM
durrrr is kickin' a$$ on the $500/1K tables at the moment, that's why they aren't playing any challenge games right now. Patrik is there and maybe we'll see them continue sometime tonight.

The pokerlistings.com interview listed above is pretty good (thanks for the link Hang_10), but brief, and shows how durrrr sees the progress so far. I think the folks who have lost faith in them finishing are a little premature, and I still think they'll finish before WSOP.

Well now he's back down some since I started writing this, anyway...

Last edited by spadebidder; 03-08-2009 at 08:34 PM.
03-08-2009 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by originalkh
Someone who misspells "moron" when calling everyone a moron makes me giggle.

Also, there's a red line under "moran" for a reason, "moran".
level?
03-08-2009 , 08:42 PM
I think spadebidder should be the only person allowed to post in this thread
03-08-2009 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by originalkh
Someone who misspells "moron" when calling everyone a moron makes me giggle.

Also, there's a red line under "moran" for a reason, "moran".
lol.
03-08-2009 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by I Gotta Push
I think spadebidder should be the only person allowed to post in this thread
That wouldn't be any fun.
03-08-2009 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by originalkh
Someone who misspells "moron" when calling everyone a moron makes me giggle.

Also, there's a red line under "moran" for a reason, "moran".
Are you starting to comprehend that you should stick to reading the forums for a while longer before making additional posts?

      
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