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09-17-2013 , 06:02 PM

#601

EmpireMaker2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,444

When did hedging or making a market become hustling? If you don't like the odds don't bet.

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09-17-2013 , 06:11 PM

#602

Allinthegame

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 97

klink10k a scammer... cant say I'm surprised.

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09-17-2013 , 06:24 PM

#603

klink10k

banned

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,721

only thing im gulity of is being a savvy investor

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09-17-2013 , 06:49 PM

#604

uke_master

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 15,973

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Originally Posted by Chabra

Looking to bet on WC to win on all hands after session one. In other words, WC must win the challenge by at least $226,716 for me to win the bet. I am looking to do this at around even money. PM me if you are interested in taking Sauce. Looking to bet up to $2k.

Note that things like this become worse bets as time goes on in the sense that at the end of the challenge if Sauce is losing (but not a blowout) then he is incentivized to play in a suboptimal higher variance way for the sake of the sidebet. The further into the challenge WCG is ahead, the more likely it is that sauce is losing at the end.

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09-17-2013 , 06:54 PM

#605

baat

adept

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 866

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Originally Posted by klink10k

only thing im gulity of is being a savvy investor

And a bad speller.

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09-17-2013 , 06:55 PM

#606

SW_Kaizer

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,192

How can ignoring someone you owe money PMs be reasonable even if you have "delt with with a bunch of 5 and 6 figure amounts of money in transfers and what not with no negative results"? Guess anything under 10K not important enough?

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09-17-2013 , 07:10 PM

#607

samooth

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3,350

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Originally Posted by EmpireMaker2

When did hedging or making a market become hustling? If you don't like the odds don't bet.

Not sure whether you're referring to my post, but I used the word hustling. To be clear, I have no issues with people offering ridiculous odds. I still call it hustling. More in a sense of http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hustle.

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09-17-2013 , 07:13 PM

#608

Clayton

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 32,226

that definition doesnt apply and your usage of hustling sucks

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09-17-2013 , 07:17 PM

#609

Clayton

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 32,226

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Originally Posted by JaySie94

then what sounds like a fair price? 4:1 , 3:1 ?? or even 2:1 ?

let the market dictate that. if someone takes him up on it, then the fair price is 5.5 until someone gets 5.4 and so on

this isnt like the MTT action marketplace where people can and will twist results or tell lies to make themselves look like a better investment. everything is out in the open here, sauceboss vs wcg. do some math and make a counter offer.

zzzzz

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09-17-2013 , 07:26 PM

#610

samooth

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3,350

OK Clayton, i will change that. Don't think it was particularly out of line, but I'm not a native speaker..

And the guy just asked for an opinion on what others think the fair odds are. Seems like a fair thing to ask for opinions/info in order to form proper expectations, in order to potentially participate in the market that will ultimately dictate the "fair" price, as you have outlined. So no need for the zzzz

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09-17-2013 , 08:00 PM

#611

Ihateregs

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 167

Market pricing is normally fair for both parties. If it isnt fair then market will change.

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09-17-2013 , 08:12 PM

#612

VictorChandler

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 393

can any of the guys datamining this match post the stats of each player, filtered by position... Please!

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09-17-2013 , 08:44 PM

#613

Chabra

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 403

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Originally Posted by uke_master

Doesn't change much, that would be counteracted by the fact that WC would be incentivized to play a low variance style in the event that he's up a little bit close to the end.

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09-18-2013 , 08:35 AM

#614

bob2222

banned

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 720

^^^ ON YA BIKE

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09-18-2013 , 09:26 AM

#615

Ihateregs

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 167

You could just escrow with a third person unless your friends and its not a big deal. There are also escrow services

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09-18-2013 , 10:25 AM

#616

Camus

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 151

jaysie do you realize how sketchy you sound right now?

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09-18-2013 , 10:26 AM

#617

deathorglory0

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,462

lol

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09-18-2013 , 10:44 AM

#618

lqken

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 491

So is this the new durrrrrr challange or?

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09-18-2013 , 11:18 AM

#619

WCGRider

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,026

40 minutes till battle

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09-18-2013 , 11:23 AM

#620

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

Gl ben and doug, I'll be covering the game in the high stakes thread this session too.

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09-18-2013 , 11:25 AM

#621

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

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Originally Posted by lqken

So is this the new durrrrrr challange or?

only if they take 5 years to finish this

go sauce!

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09-18-2013 , 11:40 AM

#622

luckofficial

adept

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,090

gogo sauce boss!!

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09-18-2013 , 12:37 PM

#623

88keyz

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,030

USA residents can't rail through FTP software on USA servers? haven't touched the software in years

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09-18-2013 , 12:47 PM

#624

dfb89

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,293

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Originally Posted by JaySie94

whats sketchy with that?

I am making a clear bet enquiry, with clear conditions which have to be given

how slow are you.. if you want to pay from your bank why don't you just transfer money/wire to an escrow before hand, stop acting dumb

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09-18-2013 , 12:51 PM

#625

DougL

Too helpful for this post

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 21,810

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Originally Posted by CzechFold

maybe it's just me but i'd have a bit of a moral problem betting against my friend regardless of odds and whatnot. doesn't have anything to do with underdog or not

You need to lighten up and enjoy life. The best people to bet against are your friends. Do it while they are there, do it loudly, and make sure there are many witnesses. Include silly hats or other shaming side stipulations.

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So that I dont have to give them my money directly, but that I am forced to pay from my bank account in case I loose??

escrow means exactly giving up the money. Check here. You can't scam someone if a trusted third party already has your money. That would be the entire point. What you're describing would be more like a FTP payment processor.

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