hi luke

$50+$15 Nightlies?

What was the video where alec torelli shows up as a hologram after Polk says he plays gto

^7 mistakes vid I believe

Doug,

Among your many background props, you regularly have a stack of specific books:

Gambling Theory and Other Topics
Seven Card Stud for Advanced Players
Real Poker Psychology
Inside the Poker Mind
The Intelligent Poker Player


Why do you choose these five books?

his copy of super system has too much weed stain on it

this

I appreciate your principled stand, and your acknowledgment of possible problems in exposing scammers.

Doug Polk suggests scams involving 6-7 figure sums, there are actual alleged scams and victims, and Polk mentions multiple alleged scammers.

Perhaps in the future there could be some limit on the number of posts attacking one person by a specific other person. If there are actual scams, isn't it enough to provide evidence of the scam once or twice? There is a fine line between exposing scams and libel or trolling.

Great video by the legend that is Joe Ingram:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX9CGMOUUZQ

Reckon these two should fight it out in the ring??

yo betgo, this has nothing to do with you and stealthmunk and your 11/180s and unwarranted strat posting in high stakes forums ok?

Doug said in his recent podcast that Luke "just ignored that he [Doug] smoked him in 400/800 8game, pretended like it never happened"... but this is categorically untrue -- Luke specifically said that he thinks someone else ("his pigeon friend JLlama, that c*nt is more dislikable than Trump") was ghosting that session. Obviously if that were true Doug would never admit it, and if it isn't true, it's not like Doug can prove it anyway. So IMO it's totally reasonable to just not even respond to it, since Luke was kind of taking a shot in the dark anyway...

But saying something that is just demonstrably untrue is puzzling because Luke very specifically mentioned the 400/800 8game session with regards to his accusation.

He did for a good year. Luke talked some trash on Twitter last summer, was challenged to HU and mocked for selling his house, lost his tongue, and never mentioned it again until his recent podcast appearance.

Luke said specifically that Stars cash is the only game he doesn't beat. Pretty low and misleading of Doug tbh, even if it's funny.

CAUSE THEY'RE RIGGED INNIT YAH

I just wanted to have a variety of poker books in the background to give my videos a little flavor. These are the 2+2 books I had on hand.

I don't understand what you mean here. I did I think 2 videos (can't remember where I first talked about it) on the Tom scam ever. The first story is verifiable true, and the second story seems very likely to be him as well, from what is publicly available.

I am not trolling/joking about Tom Dwan. He is a massive ****ing scumbag for his actions regarding his challenge with jungle.

If this had been an array of pros that were not Tom Dwan, they would be shamed by the entire community. The only reason people are jumping in to stick up for him is because they associate him with being someone they look up and he was the golden boy for online poker 3-10 years ago.

I will always be careful with running stories like this. Look at my track record on youtube, how many videos have I done about scammers, 3 or 4? Out of ~260 videos I have put up? I understand the severity of the allegations and do not treat them lightly.

I actually look at it like this. In games where you can actually see how he is doing, he is constantly losing over the last 6-8 years. In games where you can't see anything, he is "beasting".

When I hear someone with this story, I almost always assume they are financially struggling and/or do not win nearly as much as they claim. If you are a good winning player, that should shine across the board, and its a huge cop out to be like "I crush games you don't know about that are off the grind that we can't see the results". To me that is just a super cool story.

If you are gonna go on and attack me for 20 minutes, tell people I can't beat anything, and call my company a scam; and then when it comes to your own track record you are getting crushed online, then yes you are going to have to answer to how ****ty of a player you are in the only format with results that are actually displayed.

This is total BS. We played part of this match ON WEBCAM when I accused him of multi accounting. It went down like this...

I was playing Luke, after a couple of hours his play style/timing changed dramatically. Luke does not play that fast in general, and he went to playing lighting fast and overall much better. At this point I sat out, and said I was worried he was multi accounting with Isildur (both were in UK and are friends).

At this point he went absolutely bat**** insane, and DEMANDED a webcam game. So we fired up the webcam, and played $300/$600 triple draw on webcam. He played for about 2 hours, pounding the wall next to him whenever he would lose, and yelling at me over the cam. Easily one of the weirdest poker experiences I have ever hand.

Then he "had to go" and get off the webcam while still playing me. To this day I am still not sure exactly what happened and would not put it as 0% that there was something shady involved.

After this, he comes out and accuses me of multi accounting with Jllama. That is hilarious, its like he is trying to deflect the blame on himself and put it on me. Let me get this straight, I played you hu $300/$600 on webcam, in one of my worst games, but when its 8 game and there is HUNL and HUPLO I put my buddy on my account to play?

This is a pathetic attempt of misdirection from a crazed degenerate to try and justify his point. He talks a big game and is real upset about what happened, but he uses these things as a crutch to make his badly bruised ego feel like hes still a big shot.

I had recent crushing stats on 11/180 and 16/18, and I was mostly coaching those and similar games at those and lower stakes. I understand that you and many others think it is justified to make hundreds of libelous posts because of my strategy posts in HSMTT.

There are allegations that Dwan scammed over $1M twice. Stealthmunk called me a scammer and a scamming coach, but there was no one who was scammed and no scam. None of my students came forward to criticize me. It is obvious that if I were a real scammer that real scamming allegations would have been brought up by Stealthmunk or others and it would not have been necessary to make hundreds of libelous posts in an aggressive tone. Therefore, there was no reason to allow him to continue with it for so long.

You and some of HSMTT and 2+2 staff apparently feel that it is OK to throw around libelous allegations against anyone who has offended high stakes players. I thought Mason was indicating that he realized that there was a problem and I was responding.

Allowing outright libel confuses discussion of real scammers and creates a bad environment for advertisers and anyone with business interests, such as coaching, videos, staking, and selling shares.

Hi betgo:

First, I'm not going to comment on any specific accusations since my knowledge of them is only what I read here. Second, over the years, I've read a great deal about myself which has no basis in fact and am aware of the damage that bad information can do.

On the other hand, I also believe that bad people who deserve to be exposed should be exposed. And this should be a scammer or just someone who writes poker books that contain bad advice.

So the answer is to be specific with facts when exposing someone. For example, did Negreanu say that raising the rank is good for poker or did he say something else. To answer this, his exact words should be quoted and these words should answer this accusation one way or the other.

Best wishes,
Mason

This is a very good point and you'd have come off a lot better if you said something like this in the pod imo.

I understand and respect your approach, and what you have done with 2+2.

I am willing to accept criticism. What I object to is that Stealthmunk was making like 5 long posts a day for weeks attacking me. He was apparently deliberately violating the letter of the libel laws, trying to damage my business interests, alleging criminal conduct, and so on. At some point, there needs to be some limit placed on that sort of thing.

I want to point out that very few sites would allow that sort of thing, and that false accusations make it harder to discuss issues of real scammers.

My friend told me he made some provocation pictures of Luke Scwartz and sent them @WCGRIDER or Dougs Facebook Business E-mail. He wants to get Luke outta his hole and get a challenge : Doug Polk vs Luke Scwartz headsup on Poker Night in America like Dentale-Katelyn only this time it will be good poker....do it.... Luke hit "reply" and go ape-brit **** and challenge Doug to a duel. I propose deep cash game (Luke said he likes 1000 blind omaha) so 100/200 start with 20-50k. Until someone gives up or goes broke. Maybe omaha mixed every so many hands . Would Doug be down???

Ok this makes sense. When you said he ignored it, you meant in the aftermath of the actual session, not in the context of what he said on the podcast a few weeks ago. Easy to confuse since you were also responding to things he said on the podcast ("beasting everything" etc)

Special interview with Luke and Pigeon ...>https://goo.gl/photos/Bq9HkCm5Tdq9J13A9

i know you want this to be about you and your silly little gripe over people being mean to you 3 years ago (btw i never said anything libelous about you so check yourself) but it's not and nobody cares

IMO While not familar with your exact situation, it becomes a judgement call for the moderators of that forum and you should use the report post feature to bring them to their attention.

Bottom line is the poster is ultimately responsible for their posts. If you believe that you are receiving undeserved/defamatory attacks, the poster should be the recipient of a cease and desist letter from you or your lawyer.

Pretty sure when the webcam thing went on Isildur wasn't in the UK