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12-20-2016 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTK
im very curious about this as well. If your trying to make a for profit channel, can u still get paid off using parts of copyright material in your videos? How does it work?
On YouTube there is a detection system called ContentID. Rights holders like Miramax (Rounders) add their movies/music/shows/etc to the system, and YouTube can automatically detect when someone else uses them in a video.

A rights holder like Miramax can set it up so that any video using their content gets automatically muted or blocked. However, in the vast majority of cases, they just set it up so that the videos get auto-monetized and they keep all the money. This is the case for many episodes of PokerHands. The channel does not earn very much currently.

In the event that rights holders object and demand takedown, which never seems to happen for old poker footage, there may even be an argument for Fair Use, but that is a bit of a gray area that I don't think has been tested much.
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12-20-2016 , 08:33 PM
I get why but that's short sighted, there's a whole generation that doesn't know what rounders is that might check it out if they see a video like polk's. They should mostly let that stuff go (I said mostly, obviously there's a line, a clip here and there isn't over it) if they were smart but they're usually not. I reckon they'd make more from people renting their movie as a result of those videos than just taking the $ from youtube videos since that just takes away the incentive for others to promote your movie for free and well those videos generally don't make *that* much.

Of course, I'm not talking about the people that upload entire thing or the ones that just steal things from others to get all the views (since those explode in the viral world and the original one doesn't get a thing too often). **** those people.
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12-21-2016 , 06:05 PM
You guys can't give up on Talk Talk like this. The premise is too good to ax it. Doug should have known Joey isn't a weekly type of show guy. You guys should get it touch every now and then and do a new episode.
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12-21-2016 , 06:16 PM
Give up on Talk Talk? They made some good music but they split up in 1992, time to let it go imo
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12-21-2016 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
On YouTube there is a detection system called ContentID. Rights holders like Miramax (Rounders) add their movies/music/shows/etc to the system, and YouTube can automatically detect when someone else uses them in a video.

A rights holder like Miramax can set it up so that any video using their content gets automatically muted or blocked. However, in the vast majority of cases, they just set it up so that the videos get auto-monetized and they keep all the money. This is the case for many episodes of PokerHands. The channel does not earn very much currently.

In the event that rights holders object and demand takedown, which never seems to happen for old poker footage, there may even be an argument for Fair Use, but that is a bit of a gray area that I don't think has been tested much.
thanks for the reply i have one last question, say i make a 10 min video and 2 min of it is copyright material, the copyright holder gets 100% of the proceeds?
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12-21-2016 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTK
thanks for the reply i have one last question, say i make a 10 min video and 2 min of it is copyright material, the copyright holder gets 100% of the proceeds?
Yep.
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12-21-2016 , 07:38 PM
GoingSouthVideos sends a request for Doug to make a reference of TheLegend27 in one of his videos
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12-21-2016 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTK
im very curious about this as well. If your trying to make a for profit channel, can u still get paid off using parts of copyright material in your videos? How does it work?


I also wonder about this in just whoring other people's likeness (durr, Antonius, Ivey ,etc) all over your channel. I know it's accepted to a certain extent. But it has been taken to another level.


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12-22-2016 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Bang bang


All those years spent focusing solely on poker and not what anyone else is doing coming back to hurt me on the news improvising front. I def agree I don't sound the most GTO talking about random news topics that I don't know much about, can't dispute that. After a bunch of times doing it, I would have improved. Go back and check the first podcasts and videos I did






Agree

It was entertaining. Disappointed you guys decided to stop but understand it was taking a long time to prepare. If anything, it felt like you guys were tying yourself in knots trying to pander to all the 2+2 advice.
If you guys just had fun having a half hour chat with a little bit of structure every couple of weeks, it would still work imo.
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12-22-2016 , 08:59 AM
On highstakesdb I saw a screenshot where you discussed Magnus Carlsen. Cant' find it on youtube?
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12-22-2016 , 09:55 AM
This channel is bad and cheesey.

Besides Doug's histrionics there's silly video names like "Antonius falls right into Durrr's trap".

This is after PA flopped a set and had Durrr crushed. Durrr hits a bigger set on turn.
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12-22-2016 , 04:56 PM
I get so irritated by how much you talk, Doug. I love the videos but every polker hands I think to myself 'hurry the fk up'.

Giving us a verbal recap of every action and then who's hit what or got what ever draw on every street... after we've just watched it twice just irks me.

I like the detail you go into, but these details feel unnecessary. But you also talk kinda fast and make comments which sometimes sound kinda vague and I wish you'd expand on why or what you're saying.

Hh's are cool content but I don't watch your videos because I'm studying. I watch to be entertained. You're very entertaining. Wish you'd make regular content which wasn't just HH reviews.

Articulating my thoughts really isn't my forte..


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12-22-2016 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ChippuhTss
I get so irritated by how much you talk, Doug. I love the videos but every polker hands I think to myself 'hurry the fk up'.

Giving us a verbal recap of every action and then who's hit what or got what ever draw on every street... after we've just watched it twice just irks me.

I like the detail you go into, but these details feel unnecessary. (...)
I don't agree with this post, but will comment on the details - it's a different kind of problem with them.

You mess up quite a bit of details, most recent I've noticed was "Will Kassouf psyches out another victim" or so (referring to other guy having called a PFR when it was a limped pot). I've watched at least half of the series Poker Hands, and there have been several episodes where there are significant mistakes in either preflop action or otherwise. This ruins the hand analysis a whole lot when talking about ranges for the given actions, when the actions are wrong (or somehow wrongfully change between segments, and of course the ranges you're talking about are thereby wrong as well).

Can only suggest you use some kind of check list with the basic action - and go over it before you record each clip (or write the script). I think there's been around 5 instances where I go like "What? That's not right" - and it takes away a bit of credibility in hand analysis, when it seems you don't remember how the hand went. I think it's really important to get the facts right, especially for the ones who watch it for educational purposes as well.

It's absolutely entertaining and you're very watchable. Good luck!
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12-22-2016 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yaaam1484
On highstakesdb I saw a screenshot where you discussed Magnus Carlsen. Cant' find it on youtube?
https://www.upswingpoker.com/table-t...api-episode-3/
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Table Talk Episode #3 ended with a new segment called the Riverboat Rundown. Sea Captain Joey and Long-John Doug get 20 seconds to discuss the following topics.
Phil Hellmuth
PokerStars
Poker Wedding
Magnus Carlsen
Team Grind Nation
Bankroll Challenge
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12-23-2016 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ChippuhTss

Hh's are cool content but I don't watch your videos because I'm studying. I watch to be entertained. You're very entertaining. Wish you'd make regular content which wasn't just HH reviews.
Yeah I agree with this but we might be in the minority. Most people watching might enjoy the more detailed analysis. I really like that you go through all the old interesting TV hands I've seen over the years but I mostly skip through when you go into a lot of detail about ranges.

Top 3 craziest poker bluffs was an awesome video, that isuldur hand might be my favorite TV hand ever
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12-23-2016 , 12:18 PM
I'm sorry, but if you have a problem with Polks youtube, you're a sad human being.
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12-23-2016 , 04:36 PM
i gotta say I thoroughly enjoy everyone of your videos. .

keep em coming dude1
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12-23-2016 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NoMeansYes_
Yeah I agree with this but we might be in the minority. Most people watching might enjoy the more detailed analysis. I really like that you go through all the old interesting TV hands I've seen over the years but I mostly skip through when you go into a lot of detail about ranges.
Then count me in the minority, as the hand analysis videos are my favorite – if for no other reason than they tend to be hands and players (or characters, in the case of Rounders) I know. So I get to hear strategy that also includes contextual considerations.
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12-24-2016 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMeansYes_
Yeah I agree with this but we might be in the minority. Most people watching might enjoy the more detailed analysis. I really like that you go through all the old interesting TV hands I've seen over the years but I mostly skip through when you go into a lot of detail about ranges.



Top 3 craziest poker bluffs was an awesome video, that isuldur hand might be my favorite TV hand ever


I don't see why anyone would sub UpSwing when they're getting free HH reviews daily. I know he's still growing his brand but I definitely feel he's losing new customers here.
If you announced that HH reviews are behind the paywall, guaranteed you'll see a huge spike in subscriptions.
I'm sure you know what you're doing with all this anyway, and have it all planned out.. just wanted to throw it out there.

Honestly, I really want to see more content from you Doug. Some of these videos make me laugh so hard.

I really think you could build a huge following making videos but the poker niche is pretty damn finate.




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12-24-2016 , 08:43 PM
when it comes to Doug's online content, I enjoy the humor angle more than the poker angle. The level of analysis he sometimes hits with these old hand reviews just don't fit a Youtube audience IMO.
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12-24-2016 , 08:57 PM
Don't know how anybody can be taken seriously with that haircut but it's 2016, what the hell, right?

I did enjoy that dnegs video though.
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12-24-2016 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by David123
I'm sorry, but if you have a problem with Polks youtube, you're a sad human being.
Because you say so? Ok, didn't realise you were such an authority on these things.

It is Doug's job to create interesting and entertaining content for us to watch. If people don't like something that Doug creates, they are going to tell him. It's unrealistic to expect only positive feedback. That's not how the world works.
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12-24-2016 , 09:15 PM
i kno you're trying to speak clearly and enunciate your words but sometimes the pace of your voice makes you seem like ur slow or something
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12-24-2016 , 10:49 PM
Men worried about other men's hair cuts
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12-25-2016 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Oconee72
when it comes to Doug's online content, I enjoy the humor angle more than the poker angle. The level of analysis he sometimes hits with these old hand reviews just don't fit a Youtube audience IMO.
It is now a bad thing to get expert hand analyses for free. You can't make this up. You should stick to the Poker Guys imo.
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