Doug- for fun after your bankroll challenge ends, or if you go to Vancouver for a wcoop can you consider a real stream of"no delay" Just play one session and see if you can win.

It would be very strategical, you would have to check pretty much all the time and base your decison to call or not based on if you think they will try to bluff you off what your hand is when you know they know what it is. Then you can even get fancy and bet a hand on a river when you know they know what you got, and have to decide if you think theyd try to bluff you off it.

obviously like 5/10 cent or something so you cant get rekt

Anybody have an idea how much these poker/crypto guys lost in crypto? A ton had to jump in between last fall and now, and that those buys are all losers now. Anyone have any figures, or rumors of DougPolk's or other poker player losses here (or of those who cashed out big winners).

Why do you assume that a ton of poker players bought at the top? Most poker players I know have been into crypto for at least a few years and are still up 5-20x. Even if you bought bitcoin just one year ago, you're up like 40% right now.

Poker players are one of the few groups that had a practical use for cryptocurrency, especially high stakes players. So a lot of them happened to be early adopters without even having considered the future price.

Why are you a shill and fanboy for all of poker players (we know you make your living from Doug Polk, so that is explainable)? Poker players have been pumping crypto for a long time, and many got in late. It is a legitimate question. For instance, anyone who owned on million of bitcoin last December and did not sell, now has 300K or so. That is a very real situation. Answer the question or get lost. Can you name one who got in early and cashed out? I'm sure there are some. I bet there are far more bagholders. Looking for examples....you don't have to specifically name the bagholders or those who got crushed, but I know they are out there. Of course, nobody will claim to have profited a specific amount because they don't want to pay taxes. The IRS said that only a few hundred people paid their taxes on crypto in 2016. Not sure about 2017.

Rumor is Aussie Matt is upstuck half a billion dollars, so now he is only up a paltry 200 million dollars.

Were you hoping to hear they all went busto?

The point is, most poker players just used it to move money and hodl the rest.

It is practically guaranteed that part of you job description is to monitor this thread, and probably 2+2 in general. My guess is that Doug Polk is down at least 500K, and possibly much more from start to finish on his crypto speculations. He deserves credit for his Youtube channels, so hopefully he is making it back on his videos. I saw that he was willing to put 100K into whatever top 5 cryptos people voted on many months ago, so he is probably down 70 percent or more there....likely would have been constantly updating that if it he made money. So, if he was willing to "throw around" 100K like that, basically on a whim, maybe he is stuck a million or more.

Probably over a million in losses, now that I think about it.

What a weird question to ask on a poker messageboard.

lol it's cool if you have a burning hatred for cryptocurrency, but I have not stated any opinions about it here. I was just explaining something that you apparently didn't know.

As for examples, I actually don't know a single person that got in after November 2017. I just told you that all my friends and most poker players I follow got in early. If you're wondering about Doug specifically, he bought in around 2013. He doesn't seem too concerned.

lol if only I could find a sucker to pay me for that. I've been doing that for free the last 8 years.

All I was asking for was some anecdotes about people making or losing a bunch of money. You seem to be in the know. But I find it hard to believe that there aren't a bunch of poker players who chased it from 10K to 20K late last year. Also, if they owned millions at 20K and now sit at 6K, that is a huge blow as well. That is all I am asking.....you can list some good stories about big winners, too....don't have to name names.

Lastly, even though Doug Polk talks a reasonable game about crypto, that does not mean that he plays the same game that he teaches. There are many somewhat "famous" value investors in finance who implode all the time and take big losses, buying stuff that is extremely risky and totally against what they preach.

I enjoy your videos with Doug, as well. Some of the best stuff out there on many topics. I was just asking about it because crypto is under pressure. If it was up big this year I would want to know more about those fortunate enough to load up at lower prices.

That's all. Good luck.

Oh, you meant just this year? Absolutely, everyone got crushed. I definitely don't have any big winner stories for you as far as 2018 goes!

Give me stories or give me death! I'll let this drop, but maybe you can give an example of someone who bought 1,000 bitcoin at 1K, which is a million, rode up to 20K, which makes 20 million, and now has 6 million worth.

I am interested in the extreme swings, both financially, and psychologically. Big swings like how Tiger Woods when from being arrested in a drunken stupor just over a year ago, to almost winning majors. I like the journey of the big moves, whether it is winning or losing. I will jump of of this thread.

The poker community as a whole must be badly upstuck right now on Crypto but are still massive net winners because they *earned* most of their Crypto as poker playing profits and held while the price was soaring.

But their weakness, which I've Tweeted a number of times is that they had no real market experience so ignored the obvious that in a bull market that's also volatile you should be jobbing/scalping around a long position, thus increasing your net long and reducing your net buying price at the same time. Pretty sure ~90% of poker players didn't do this.

You should print out this conversation your trying to have and show it to your mom. I think she might be able to point out the problems you're having in a polite manner.

I have got to say that I really enjoyed the Epic Stories.
Thanks guys.

LOL.

Also, bgrif, not sure how deeply you've delved into the 2p2 archives, but some poker players have stories more tragic than going from $1MM to $6MM.

Making over 50Mil a month and can't prevent DDos attacks

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...-in-rake-in-q2

#MoreRakeIsBetter

If Ike was so bad at HU ,why did Polk rank Ike the 2nd place on his best hu player list?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Cey1QSCe0

You gotta admit, this is grade A trolling here.

he wanted all the action I guess

Ill be first to bust Srsly's chops just cuz its fun, but that has to be dumb post of the week.

More importantly.

DOUG: cmon man give it up on the DnegsPR acct

If it was you and you all are finished having fun then no harm coming clean. Just props from all on the lolz, creative idea and solid execution.

If it was you and you are not finished having fun then get back in the game audience awaits more lolz

If it wasn't you chance it was actually KidPoke goes up and its double lolz all the way around.

If it was a rando then ... dunno... it was just a creative rando but #2 applies to them,

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fyi and unrelated to above... investing in crypto currencies is mostly tulips man, Investing in blockchain backend technology is where longer term predictable wealth will be created in my very humble opinion,

Blockchain technology replacing/augmenting TCPIP in a myriad of applications will change the world.

FredsCryptoCoin of the week will do nothing (except for maybe Fred)

crickets from all depts of Doug Polk, LLC re: the intriguing dnegspr acct

Back in the bankroll challenge streets on Twitch

https://www.twitch.tv/dougpolkpoker

Taking a shot at 200NL today

I learned alot today. You can play cash with 15 buy ins,
oooops now 10 buy ins, and still be using bankrolll strat.

Gees go play 5/10nl at this point

i dont see the challenge of a bank roll challenge if you don't follow brm.

Challenge is goes from 100 to 10k
If he rather risk to bust to complete marginaly faster that's his problem.