im just so shocked that someone can be this big of a douchebag day in and day out. i feel so bad for individuals like this, what is this world coming to?

Let Doug know how you feel, by watching and then downvoting the video. Better is to leave a comment as well, youtubers hate negative comments.

That was a shocking laydown by Ho, what kind of flop is she hoping for after calling ~150K preflop if she's folding a set. Even if she figures she's against AA with A of hearts, you still have to call and just hope to fade the ~65/35. If you're not calling that, you might as well not even call the huge 3bet with TT preflop.

had doug not made this video i would have never googled maria ho and found out about her induction into a poker hall of fame.

The notion that women have a separate poker hall of fame seems ridiculous to me. Poker is not like a physical sport where women have an inherent physical strength or speed disadvantage to men, so why should there be a gender-specific poker hall of fame?

GOOD IDEA BRUH

Well historically they have performed just as poorly, relative to men, in almost every field of human endeavour, physical based or not, so they should probably have a separate hall of fame for about 100 other things, or maybe a 1000.

For example:

The Female Classical Music Composer Hall of Fame
The Female Chef Hall of Fame
The Female Fashion Designer Hall of Fame
The Female Chess Player Hall of Fame
The Female Artist (Painting) Hall of Fame
The Female Architect Hall of Fame
The Female Mathematician Hall of Female
The Female Inventor Hall of Fame

And as time progresses the lack of opportunity for women argument is looking more and more spurious.

Note that for singers there are a plethora of great female singers, an outlier explained by the fact that women obviously tend to have high pitched voices and the majority of great singers have high pitched voices or can sing in a high pitch, including men.

I know it is not cool nowadays to point out some glaring generalised differences between men and women, but as a whole men excel more in some fields than women, and vice versa, and poker and most other disciplines that involve good math ability or high level, quick thinking logic and decisiveness, including poker, are where women as a whole are at a big disadvantage.

It's also very apparent that a significant percentage of the top female poker players have more of an aggressive male like personality than the average woman in the population.

When I worked as a financial trader I found the same thing, the women who were very good traders also had an element of male aggression within their personality that the majority of women don't have.

ffs why aids this thread up with your misogyny?

I am not a misogynist. I have stated facts.

but your logic is still poor

Yeah oh compulsive spouter of the obvious, it's not like the men who were very good traders also had an element of male aggression within their personality that the majority of men don't have.

Most men have natural aggression (testosterone) in their make up.

My point is that women as a generalisation aren't naturally suited to poker or to general decisive and aggressive decision making.

Women have many, many other qualities that men are generally terrible at and I would rate women above men as the superior gender overall.

But we aren't talking about that, we are talking about measurable achievement by an elite group of people at the top of their respective fields, where men have been dominant for centuries.

Take a look at the women's all time money list on Hendon Mob http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking/137/ and you'll see a significant chunk of the top few who have some male type tendencies. It is no coincidence. And I am not talking about sexuality specifically I am talking about them not being shy and retiring types and not coming across as traditionally feminine.

They are the sort of women who could (and maybe some already are) be international business leaders or become military generals, but the vast majority of women in the population are not suited to those types of roles or to the quick and decisive thinking, ruthlessness and aggression that is required to succeed at poker.

The so called glass ceiling for women is imaginary in most fields, an invention by the politically correct. Women don't reach the top or the elite level in any significant numbers in many fields simply because they are not good enough, or they may be good enough but there are 20 competing men who are that bit better than them.

still wrong.

- women haven't reached the top of some fields partly due to the idiotic nature of said fields. take poker for example, your main argument. to excel at it requires thousands of hours of study, which if you consider life EV is completely bat**** stupid for someone to get involved in. you say 'aggression, calculation, military general' when it may be a simple blind compulsion that is the dominant trait. women not being concentrated in poker is an explanation of their sensibilities more than their weaknesses, cowboy.

Tuma, of course he's wrong.

You are effectively going back to the lack of opportunity argument (not many have time to do thousands of hours of study), and you may be correct. However, all the evidence in history so far suggests that it's lack of god given talent, and/or possibly lack of drive or ambition, that explains why women don't make it to the very top level in most fields compared to men.

I dare say that if we deliberately went out of our way to find a group of 1000 women who already show some traditional male characteristics (perhaps women who serve in the military or who are in high stress business jobs) and who can also pass some mental aptitude tests that if you then trained those women to play poker that quite a few of them would break into the elite group of male poker players.

But this would be artificial selection.

Natural ability in math is another big factor. I have rarely ever met any women who are friends, relatives or work colleagues who are great at math but I have met numerous men who are.

There are articles on line claiming that this is due to women being conditioned from an early age to let men do the adding up but I think this is false as human beings don't get good at mental arithmetic through loads of practice, it is an innate ability.

does that mean men are also lacking a gene to be good at cooking?

Yes quite possibly, because cooking requires patience and selflessness, two qualities that women generally have and that men generally don't.

Best cooks in the world are all men...

Tuma's intended meaning of cooking I believe is as in cooking for the family, the evening meal etc.

The top commercial chefs are nearly all men which I mentioned earlier for having a separate Hall Of Fame for women. Most head chefs in restaurants are also men, leading a brigade which is literally an army unit. (military connection again)

My mom ain't no man

What an absolute **** argument. You would think someone who plays poker and is a financial trader would understand the concept of sample size. How many woman play poker vs how many men play poker?

Women were often forbidden by law from going to college before the 20th century and for much of the 20th century they were heavily discouraged and you are surprised there are more great male mathematicians historically than women?

There are far more successful white mathematicians and scientists than black mathematicians and scientists, I guess black people are just inherently inferior too then right?

Seems like a bad example considering something close to 80% of chefs/head cooks are male. https://datausa.io/profile/soc/351011/#demographics

Also seems like a bad example since you'd basically have to be ******ed to lack the capacity to do it effectively.

The lack of women in poker and other strategic games at the highest level is pretty impressive really. The most notable female poker pro (and one of the only ones with any credibility) is a butch lesbian. Then look at something like starcraft where the only notable pro is a tranny. Not really surprising that homosexual women tend to be neurologically more similar to men (and homosexual men to women): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuros...ex_differences

We might not know exactly what the significance is of the observed neurological differences between men and women and whatever those defining properties are tend to vary within all of us to some extent but it seems almost unimaginable that the differences aren't material.

The glass ceiling/lack of opportunity argument is one that is awaiting evidence to arrive in order to prove it. There is far more evidence that has already taken place to suggest that women are lacking in ability and/or drive or ambition at the elite level.

People of colour have risen to the absolute elite and include some of the greatest achievers and people in the history of the world such as Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Ghandi and Dr Martin Luther King.

And if you look at people of colour as a separate group, again there is a big bias towards it being mainly men. Lack of opportunity for women within this group is a factor but it is not the main reason in my opinion.

There have been enough women in the world post 1990 (which is about when equality properly kicked in the Western world) for a large number of women to have jumped out and been in the absolute elite of various fields, but it just hasn't happened yet.

(Female British Prime Ministers, Margaret Thatcher and Theresa May, both not exactly very feminine.)

It's just hard to take anyone seriously who gets miffed at the suggestion that there are differences. What world do you live in? The most successful/intelligent women I've known all like to joke about how they're basically men. That's not a slight against women. Clearly there're a lot of feminine men out there too, and i'm guessing they're the ones who get menstrual about the subject.

like peering into a kaleidoscope of bigotry