I refuse to believe Cary Katz won best influencer over Doug by more people voting for him lol

Trueteller's tiny donk bet in a 4bet pot with JJ on K4T flop was pretty interesting. What does this accomplish compared to the standard play of checking to the 4better?

I was thinking to buy the course today but after seen the video, i decided against it. Not talking **** or anything but i found the explanation inadequate personally. ''Some tells, some dynamics'' isnt really an explanation imo Also there is no range breakdown neither for Kanu nor for Trueteller. In the end he assigns him all the ''nutty'' hands ''which he might have few times'' and still calls without giving us a bluffing range of the villain

What is this new Getting Stuff Off My Chest thing all about?

A humble Doug Polk addresses the poker community in heartfelt video.

I just finished watching it... nothing new really. Mostly said he is going to be spending more time doing other stuff (crypto) and less time playing poker. He said he was going to try to be more positive about poker going forward. He also spent several minutes talking about the Poker awards, about how he didnt care, but started to care while watching it. And how that 2017 was probably peak Doug Polk for poker and it wasnt good enough to win an award. I feel like there's some back story to this video... he talked some about people complaining he only does videos for views, I know Negreanu was tweeting about that yesterday.

I hope he ends up playing the Big One for One Drop, I want to see Polk vs DNegs! But after watching that video, I doubt he plays it.

Polk figured out that to win clicks, he needed to create clickbait. Sensationalism works. But he took it too far. This video was his realization that he needs to tone it down.

Smh at him blaming PStars for not winning the Vloggers awards. If Neeme had lost, don't think he would be blaming others.

Btw, anyone else notice how Joey seems to be his lapdog. Tried to copy many of his same methods. Particularly despicable was jumping on Polk's bandwagon and attacking Negreanu. Left a bad taste in my mouth. Lost a lot of respect for Joey.

Ya but Doug hasn't made a worthwhile vid in a while.

Very sad, the day poker satire retired and died.

It's almost as if the secret police are out of shot, staring at Doug, reminding him with their facial expressions what might happen to him if he doesn't read their script word for word. The video reminds me of one of those hostage videos..... "they have been treating me well, and I sympathise with their political beliefs and aims"


There might be more money in Crypto in terms of generating YouTube revenues and more money for investors to make, but poker will always be 1000 times more beautiful as an entity.

He has always been accused of always staying neutral and never standing up for anything or anyone. Now that he finally does exactly that and stands up for one of his best friends it people lose respect for him, just lol.
I gained a lot of respect for him since he started calling out bull****. Shillgranu deserves to be attacked by as many people as possible.

Doug had a pretty big year in 2017 and put in a lot of work. In the end, he got skipped over for all 4 awards he was nominated. He is human and it is natural to be hurt by that. I think Doug really does care a little about the things that are said about him, and he can’t really do better in 2018 than he did in 2017. So, he is a fighter but sometimes a fighter needs to change strategy and fight differently.

People like you sound like awful friends. I'm not really trying to copy anything but if I was going to take some ideas or inspiration from someone, Doug is certainly at the top of the list in poker to be inspired by, now you also sound like a donk, in addition to an awful friend. If you don't understand what I am referring to with Dnegs then you also sound unaware. Now you're an unaware donk that is an awful friend who pretends to be fully aware when they talk about something they are unaware of. I have the same taste in my mouth and same loss of any respect for you.

IMO, I think it's a bit of a joke that Doug didn't get the Influencer award. It should have been between Twitch streamers, Doug and maybe Cary Katz. Looking at the comments sections during live streams, you can clearly see non-poker players asking questions. Also Doug has put out an insane amount of video's this year with 200k+ views, which is pretty rare for poker content. Not to forget the amount of money he has bought into the poker economy from his crypto channel.

Hopefully in 2018 he can win both one drop's, hit 1m subs and set another record win on live stream. Maybe then he has a chance at biggest Influencer :P

Who's Cary Katz.

Good point, I change my mind from Cary Katz to Joe Ingram

The video is heartfelt and I understand the drive to be a more positive influence on the world of poker. I'm not sure what the key to that will be, but it probably involves playing a bunch of poker rather than focusing on crypto.

Much of the video is a direct response to Negreanu's Twitter comments, where he repeatedly accused Doug of being a troll and trying to create drama. I thought those comments were grossly unfair and I guess Doug did too.

I know it's old news now, but I still think Daniel's comments about rake were horrible.

He said there are games where rake is really high and it keeps pros away and "overall, for the game, it's actually better."

Doug titled his response video "Daniel Negreanu Says More Rake Is BETTER?!" This is a fair title, but subsequently Daniel denied ever saying that "more rake is better".

In particular, after Doug called him out on it, Daniel responded in this video:



In the video he doubles down and says that hypothetically if the rake was super high then the players would be recreational players who don't care about rake, looser, faster, and would have a lot of fun. He also takes a few shots at Doug and his followers, who he accuses of being trolls.

He argues that he didn't take a position on rake, but then he spends a lot of time saying that actually a high rake has a lot of benefits.

I feel like he has never really owned up to his comments or understood why people might be insulted by them, particularly as he is a rep for PokerStars. As a regular player on PokerStars, I personally care about my money, my winnings and losses. If I wanted to just have fun and carefree about gambling, I would be playing roulette and not poker; I think this is true of the majority of poker players, who are willing to put some thought into each hand over hours at a time. Trying to spin a rake increase as being in my best interests or the best interests of other players is insulting.

It's also clear that Daniel STILL holds a grudge about being called out in this way and is STILL dismissing all criticism as trolling.

Turning to the Poker awards, I don't know how the judging is done so can't really say whether there is a bias there. I don't agree with some of the selections, but I never seem to agree with the selections at award ceremonies generally.

I do think that accusing the awards of being biased is an error, because nobody is judged solely by award ceremonies and if you're more deserving then you'll be remembered as such. I mean Raging Bull lost out to Ordinary People in the 1981 Oscars, but nobody remembers Ordinary People.

I wish you would unblock me on Twitter, Papi.

Joey,
This started with the sensationalism in your YouTube. It was a CLEAR copy of what Polk was doing. He must have been bragging about how good his ratings were and you decided you had to follow/copy him. It's clear you are a fanboy of Polk. But you never asked yourself at what cost. Attacking some people relentlessly when a SINGLE post/YouTube stating your case was well enough. It is quite distasteful to go on a CONTINUAL campaign attacking someone because ratings are good.

I really liked your old YouTubes/Podcasts. Hour plus long interviews with many of the most relevant poker people. You simply listen to what they had to say. Recent EXCLUSIVE interview with Cummin (?) was OUTSTANDING. Btw, you should have won a Vlogger award for just that exclusive.

Btw, I hope people don't get me wrong. I like DPolk's Youtube up to a point. The crypto videos calling out the OBVIOUS scammers in that world needs to be done. I applaud him for doing that. But in some cases, he really goes too far. The whole Negreanu and rake thing pushed it too far. Negreanu already clarified what he meant. This would be similar to people attacking other people on their stance on having antes be collected by the SB/BB blinds. THEN continually attacking them on their stance on it.

State your case once, don't go crazy by
1. start wearing T-shirts
2. bringing out the back yard rake
3. doing videos of how much a b i a t c h negreanu is.
4. on and on

Ratings at any cost is not ok.

Dude he put a spotlight on stuff that players have been bitching about for year and he brought the MTT late reg loophole to light which I haven't heard at all beforehand. Totally worthy of making vids about.

Doug and his Cripto vids doesn't mean much in that regard when 2+2ers are getting screwed over and ignored by the poker room itself.

Doug and Papi are airing out the exact issues that I am interested in and want to hear about. They put in the effort and are willing to take the heat for it. There will always be regular interviews and regular hand replay analysis content down the road. If not for these guys, none of what we argue about on 2+2 would ever be heard of anywhere else but here on 2+2.

lwlee, you need to start your own podcast of clickbait hottakes and shots at Joey.

Someone here is mad. Furry furry mad.

Dough pork is susccessful at life. Has millions of dollars, a pretty borderline hot gf and decent amount of social status.

He is learning the hard way that people hate successful men. He will always face a lot of bull**** from jealous people who couldn't make it. ( cough cough negreanu..Inb4 we have a poll on whose gf is prettier..I say dough pork)

Joey, I am glad you support your friend. But in the past you have clearly taken pussilanimous positions when it comes to stuff like this. Could the fact you got snubbed at these poker awards be behind your more agggresive line now? I like you and think you are a good rep for the poker grinder trying to make it in life ..so don't hate on me for saying what's obvious. You are mad you got snubbed and u taking it out on negreanu.


As for negreanu, he has been a joke for a long time and only people who respect his opinions are clueless newbies who saw one of his genius live reads on YouTube and got hooked onto poker.

The Chicago Joey bashing recently ITT (re: DNegs) is pretty ridiculous. I watch all of Joey's vids and his line has been consistent, that DNegs is a great ambassador for the game because of his popularity, personality and visibility and that he, Joey, likes him a lot as a person.

But Joey's also consistently said that he doesn't approve of DNegs support (non-condemnation) of Amaya's rake increases / rewards cuts and that they are bad for the poker eco-system and largely kill the prospect of players having a realistic chance any more to move up the cash games stakes.

+1 to what SD said

In the interests of fairness, I did see this from Negreanu:

http://fullcontactpoker.com/thoughts-rake/

He expands on his position and concludes he doesn't believe more rake is better for the poker eco-system.

However, it still feels like he's squirming out of his earlier comments and spinning things to make it seem like not such a big deal. He's still trying to argue that in certain situations high rake will lead to amateurs having more fun because there's nobody there trying to make a solid profit, which is still nonsense.

He completely ignores the fact that there are different stakes and that generally amateurs play lower stakes or even no money games until they feel they're ready for the challenge of higher stakes and facing down some pro players. That's how the poker eco-system works and raising rake in any game doesn't really drive pros away so much as it drives all players away. It's tough enough in 2018 to make any profit at all without having to pay a huge tax on your games.

Imagine if you liked another game, like chess for example, and someone tried to argue pros are no good, let's get rid of them and then everyone can enjoy just playing for fun and not getting humiliated. Ridiculous.