As a side note, can we all agree JNandez is a lovely human being?

First let me say I appreciate your presence in the forums and the poker community in general. You are a massive plus here and for poker in general. Also I subscribe to your channel and love the vids....

However, I think what you are missing here is that you really are not in a position to deny what he is or is not intending to do in his since deleted Instagram post. Unless I have missed something you did not confirm that "hey I spoke to the guy and this is his explanation, and this is what he told me to tell the community". You are assuming, and guessing which just does not compute for a bunch of reasons.

This issue has been active for a while. HE has been accused by many of making fun of children and people with mental disabilities. His failure to respond to this and vehemently deny is is rediculous, irresponsible, arrogant and plain wrong. Frankly saying I know the guy and he wouldn't do this is not a good look for you either. I won't get into what I do but trust me people who you think you know inside and out will surprise you. I am not even saying you are wrong in your assessment. What I am saying is that you cannot be sure you are right. I think Aaron rogers knows what I am talking about:

http://www.citypages.com/news/ryan-b...ly-bad-6546279


Again, you are awesome Mr. Polk. Kindly stay that way.

JNandez uses a solver to determine what he posts on Instagram.

Hard to tell. He is far from exceptional at plo imo, since he is a huge nit postflop and very limited creativity..

He's commenting on his charismatic personality and you see this as an opportunity to swoop in and thrash his poker game?
Strongly consider seeing a therapist, not saying this as a diss.

Recently JNandez has been posting quite a lot of Torelli-style inspirational quotes and **** like that, and he also did something I hate, which is he quoted himself on his own Instagram and then cited his own quote; like it's your own ****ing Instagram, dude, I'm going to assume it's your comment if you don't cite yourself.

Unlike Torelli, though, JNandez is not super smug or self-congratulatory. He just seems to love what he's doing, loves the game, loves collaborating. Also seems like a decent guy who does not hide his silver chips.

Oh, also I made fun of one of his Instagram stories on Twitter and he responded positively and did not block me (coughcoughJoeIngramcough), so he gets my undying support forever.

Right, i missed that.

yah he is and that is when i really decided that Fees was a ****head because JNandez would never post something as stupid/ignorant as that not a chance, niether would Doug, i dunno if either has anything against disabled kids(100% they dont but business wise they are def not that f'n stupid)

Doug you are doing huge things for and in poker right now, Fees f'd up not a colossal f up but he should just say something and every1 can move on, something else scandalous will happen in the poker world and no1 will even remember this

Hey guys, just wanted to respond to the conversation about my post on Instagram. It was wrong of me to make that post, and I am sorry I made it. It was a failed attempt at a joke that was over the top and not well thought out. The child in the cart was not disabled, the picture I took was a bad one that made it look like she was. I understand now that I should not have taken a picture of this family to begin with, it was a mistake, and it will not happen again.

no reason to think this is anything other than honest and sincere.

hopefully all can just move on.

As penance for temp bad judgement I suggest you agree to play 40 hours live 2/4 Limit Holdem at The Orleans Las Vegas.

If you dont show a profit over the 40 hours, you have to do another 40 hours, and another until you show profit.

Kinda weak and disappointing reaction from Doug. While I like how he stands up against pokerstars and and everything else going wrong in the pokerworld, he always claims to do this from an (financially) independent standpoint. That's why it's especially interesting to see his statement when his own environment is a topic of controversy. Obviously he doesn't want to hurt the image of his own brand but this case clearly shows he isn't all that independent after all, or rather that his projection of himself as "one of the good guys" is very closely linked to monetary interests.

-> double moral standard.

Fees' apology sounds like a 7 year old who has just been schooled about what not to post publically on the internet.

Stealing millions of dollars from customers and making an offensive joke are not in the same ballpark. Both are wrong, but it doesn't make them equal.

according to you.

sounds to me like he did something that in the moment he thought would be funny, which in fact was not funny at all. who the eff has never done that.

someone needs to get off their high horse, in the opinion of me.

So you're accusing him of
1. being dependent of his own company and his main business partner
2. looking out for his friends



Not sure why you seem personally invested in this but you wear your SN well. Take it easy dude.

Makes no sense. What were the kids in the picture meant to look like for that joke to be successfull? You capture an image of kids in carts waving hands or whetever and write use condoms...what exactly were you going for with that joke?

for real lol. looks like the joke come across as intended to me

The joke was basically this (which is fine), but with unfortunate secret filming:



Apology was sincere enough, what else do you guys want? Once again the internet brings another poker player to task for their actions

this, but why not just say, guys i made the joke it's stupid , i am stupid, regret it now, don't feel that way in reality..i am sorry. This way, people want to get to the bottom of it. Again, could be wrong, but to me it sounds like a cover up and everyone in the upswing is in on it. Where Jnandez at? If he confirms Fees story i am satisfied, he seems the most honorable guy there. Either that or Fees needs to find the girl and make a video with her not being paralysed for this to go away.

Yes, let's get everyone on board to track this little girl down so that this can happen. Certainly the most sensible solution to this issue.

NVG vacillates from the coolest thing to dumbest thing ever and sometimes in just a few posts.

above just made NVG take a hard right turn down Dumbest Thing Lane.

*Doug Polk's cracked pre-pubescent voice* "BREAKING NEWS! TWO PLUS TWO FORUM MEMBERS TRACK DOWN A MOTHER AND TWO YOUNG GIRLS SO THAT RYAN FEES CAN RECORD THAT NONE OF THEM ARE DISABLED, WHEN AN INAPPROPRIATE INTERNET JOKE SERIOUSLY BACKFIRES!

Not sure what else he can do. Apology and explanation were late but for me it’s a move on.

I didn't think the joke was funny, I am someone that could be offended by this. I am not.

Like I said, if people were't allowed to make jokes about disabled people then I would feel like I am not equal. I am sure Fee didn't mean this to make fun of a disabled person but even if he did I wouldn't blame him actually.

I have a mental disabiltiy, one that is easily made fun of. I actually want my friends not to worry about making fun of that and when they make jokes about me it makes me feel like I am actually equal to them and that they treat me the same way. If they weren't allowed to make fun of me then it would make me feel awkward and weird. I want to be able to make jokes about my friends and I want them to have no restrictions in giving it back. By telling people they can't make jokes about any disability makes me feel rejected. I know that making fun of disabled people is easy and therefore is considered wrong; I am merely saying that we should consider that disabled people actually have a lot of strength and heart and they sometimes appreciate when they are treated equal and subject to a joke. We shouldn't treat people differently but I do think that it is wrong to go all SJW when someone makes a joke about a disabled person, however wrong it might seem.

Also I am not saying that Fee did this on purpose and thought the child was disabled. Just saying that if it were the case.

Not what I said and pokerstars is "stealing millions of dollars"?! Pokerstars is just one example next to the usual individuals, Dnegs etc. You could have handled this way better. Instead you delayed your response, downplayed the incident and didn't answer any critical questions whatsoever. At least you took a clear stance in the end.

Saying it was a joke like it's a fact is again a twist however you want things to be which you've displayed a few times now in your last responses. A grown man taking pictures of children - handicapped or not - with the caption is just degrading, no matter how you want to turn it. But hey, I heard Matusow has some great jokes on twitter too, maybe you can form a standup comedian team together Fees.

I def did not think that either the kids had anything medically wrong with them, they just seemed to be squirming around and bored at the store.

but once you see it...